Drudge: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

[megimoo]

Drudge: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

http://www.drudgereport.com/ ^
No details yet, it's the main headline though...

[ironhorsedriver]

This is our speaker. Mind boggling. When will the Dems wake up and can this useless flesh!

[Constitutionally Speaking]

This is our speaker. Mind boggling. When will the Dems wake up and can this useless flesh!

Why should they. They BELIEVE this crap.

[wilbur]

I don't know the context of her comment... but how does one automatically assert that this is false?

We know there are definite links between single parenthood and poverty... without B/C we would certainly have many more single parents... seems reasonable to me.

[patriot45]

I don't know the context of her comment... but how does one automatically assert that this is false?

We know there are definite links between single parenthood and poverty... without B/C we would certainly have many more single parents... seems reasonable to me.

I don't think the context matters. This is not a stimulus for the economy! Niether is more than half the crap they have in there.

[wilbur]

I don't think the context matters. This is not a stimulus for the economy! Niether is more than half the crap they have in there.

I dunno, reading the rest of the story, I can see how it wouldn't necessarily fit the bill as 'stimulus', nor should be in a stimulus bill.... but birth control availability or lack there of, does actually have consequences for the economy... conclusively.

[patriot45]

I dunno, reading the rest of the story, I can see how it wouldn't necessarily fit the bill as 'stimulus', nor should be in a stimulus bill.... but birth control availability or lack there of, does actually have consequences for the economy... conclusively.


Nothing in this stimulus package is anything but pork!!

Stimulate us with a 6 month tax holiday! Now that would work.

[micmac]

The only way Birth Control can help the economy is if we can go back in our time machines and give it to the mothers of Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Obama, Kerry, Clinton, etc...;)

[Celtic Rose]

I dunno, reading the rest of the story, I can see how it wouldn't necessarily fit the bill as 'stimulus', nor should be in a stimulus bill.... but birth control availability or lack there of, does actually have consequences for the economy... conclusively.

But in all honesty, how expensive are contraceptives? I just checked the Long's website, and it looks like condoms tend to be between 50 cents and 1 dollar each. Plus many places offer free condoms. Basic contraception is hardly out of reach for the average American, so how can the argument be made that it is unavailable? How will putting money towards contraceptives improve the economy when I don't know of any evidence that people are having children because they can't afford contraception? The more common reason is that they didn't think to use it.

[enslaved1]

But in all honesty, how expensive are contraceptives? I just checked the Long's website, and it looks like condoms tend to be between 50 cents and 1 dollar each. Plus many places offer free condoms. Basic contraception is hardly out of reach for the average American, so how can the argument be made that it is unavailable? How will putting money towards contraceptives improve the economy when I don't know of any evidence that people are having children because they can't afford contraception? The more common reason is that they didn't think to use it.

And "no" is always free. :D

[Celtic Rose]

And "no" is always free. :D

True, but I'm thinking that isn't very practical between a married couple, at least not long term :p

[Moon]

True, but I'm thinking that isn't very practical between a married couple, at least not long term :p

You're not married, are you?


:p

[Celtic Rose]

You're not married, are you?


:p

Umm, no :o

[Celestron]

This woman is a blithering idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFU_jE9WasM

[Celtic Rose]

This woman is a blithering idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFU_jE9WasM

Wow, California pays for contraception? I did not know that. :cool: I can think of several people I went to college with who would have found that very interesting :p

California is in a budget crisis, but I'm pretty sure that it isn't because the government is spending its money of contraception.

[AmPat]

I don't know the context of her comment... but how does one automatically assert that this is false?

We know there are definite links between single parenthood and poverty... without B/C we would certainly have many more single parents... seems reasonable to me.

Fat Welfare Woman At Checkout: Hmmmm! Twinkies or Rubbers? .:rolleyes:

Honestly, how expensive is it for the poverty moths to buy their own contraceptives?:confused:

[MrsSmith]

On the other hand, reducing birth numbers will have a bad long-term affect on the country. It only takes 18 years to raise a kid, and many have jobs before their 18th birthday. Once they start working, they spend the rest of their lives helping to support our government, social security and medicare. The vast majority of all children born end up being an overall asset to their country.

[xavierob82]

Poor people should't have children. Poor people should be practicing safe sex and birth control. Only those who are financially and emotionally secure should bring babies into the world. Once again, liberals are 100% correct.

[MrsSmith]

Poor people should't have children. Poor people should be practicing safe sex and birth control. Only those who are financially and emotionally secure should bring babies into the world. Once again, liberals are 100% correct.

I had 5 kids, all while I was poor. I went back to college when I only had 3, had the 4th a month before graduation.

The oldest did 2 years in the Army, went to college on the GI bill, earned his Bachelor's this year. The second went back to college while working and raising her first child, now has a Bachelor's, 2 kids, a great job, owns her own house, etc. The rest are still growing up, we'll see how they turn out. Being poor isn't harmful to kids, at least they grow up expecting to work for a living.

[AmPat]

Poor people should't have children. Poor people should be practicing safe sex and birth control. Only those who are financially and emotionally secure should bring babies into the world. Once again, liberals are 100% correct.

I agree up to the liberal crap. Liberals are not the originators of this concept. Liberals created the environment of "free love, open homosexuality, if it feels good do it, etc." Conservatives, namely Evangelical Christians, (those quaint little backwards people that Liberals despise), popularized this.

Once again, Conservatives are 100% correct.:cool:

[linda22003]

I had 5 kids, all while I was poor. I went back to college when I only had 3, had the 4th a month before graduation.
Being poor isn't harmful to kids, at least they grow up expecting to work for a living.

People can have as many children as they want, as long as they don't expect me, the taxpayer, to support them. That's the parents' job.

[xavierob82]

Liberals are not the originators of this concept. Liberals created the environment of "free love, open homosexuality, if it feels good do it, etc." :


And? What's wrong with those things? Nothing. As long as you do so in a safe and healthy manner, and do not infringe on others' rights.

[wilbur]

I agree up to the liberal crap. Liberals are not the originators of this concept. Liberals created the environment of "free love, open homosexuality, if it feels good do it, etc." Conservatives, namely Evangelical Christians, (those quaint little backwards people that Liberals despise), popularized this.

Once again, Conservatives are 100% correct.:cool:

I'd wager there that most people actually do most things, primarily because they feel good in some sense. Maybe an act takes sacrifice, pain and hard-work, but may still be done for the sake of some other beneficial feeling that will come later... sense of accomplishment, pride, expression of love etc.

"If it feels good, do it" does not preclude hard-work, self sacrifice or even pain.

[enslaved1]

Poor people should't have children.

Agree in principle. Material wealth doesn't necessarily match one's parenting ability. If a person is having trouble making ends meet, they need to think long and hard about making the circle bigger.


Poor people should be practicing safe sex and birth control.

Agree


Only those who are financially and emotionally secure should bring babies into the world.

Mankind will be extinct in two generations. And who exactly is going to determine who is emotionally secure enough to have kids, which leads to....


Once again, liberals are 100% correct.

Wrong. Liberals want the government to provide the birth control, the education about how to use it and the abortions when government learning techniques fail (again). Personal responsibility, not reliance on the government. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[PoliCon]

only a leftist would see death as an economic stimulus . . . .

[AmPat]

I liked this little jewel at the link regarding their pledges to end slavery:

it raises the question of exactly how they plan to free these slaves. I'm all for it, but I realize that it is likely to require massive use of the military and what might amount to a full-on war with the primary institution supporting the continued existence of slavery, Islam. I don't think they get this. Their understanding seems to be at the level of "slavery is baaaaad" with no greater knowledge of the realities of the issue. Do they realize that only weeks after their last protest against the Iraq war they are now advocating all-out holy war against Islam?http://blogcritics.org/archives/2009/01/25/151935.php

This is typical of liberals. Gitmo bad, must "Close Gitmo!" Even their god in Chief doesn't get it. Have a plan first, then make your politically influenced pronouncements. This after all was their most accurate denunciation of the Iraq war, the previous administration's failure to plan for success after the war.

"Bring home the troops!" Don't worry your pretty little little heads about the most likely result of that pronouncement, DEFEAT. Or if you prefer a more positive word, VICTORY for radical islam.

Iraq is now a mere 16 months from horror. 16 months from taking Afghanistan's place as the top training ground for terrorists. Too bad the liberals don't have a Bat phone straight to Bin Laden's cave, they could have called him first so that Al JIZZera could get this intel out to their troops in the field.

[AmPat]

And? What's wrong with those things? Nothing. As long as you do so in a safe and healthy manner, and do not infringe on others' rights.

They are infringing on my right to not having to watch Fred and Barney french kiss and prance around in their nighties in the public eye. If Fred and Barney could have done that in the privacy of their bedroom and not throw it in our faces publicly, alright. To make it a political platform issue and organize PUBLIC parades around your perversity, it's a problem for our society as a whole. Free love has lead to an EXPLOSION of single parent homes which leads to pover4ty which begats CRIME. Argue away as to doing these things quietly and without fanfare. That is NOT the way the Liberals promote their perversity and you know it.