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nacho
06-23-2008, 04:44 PM
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Oregonian (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-23-08 05:40 AM
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George Carlin: "Just how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe in angels?"
I LOVED George Carlin's rips on religion. He just cut right to the chase, pulled no punches, and was merciless in his pummeling of irrational thought and organized superstition. He is most certainly NOT in some fluffy cloud Heaven right now, floating around on little gossamer wings. He was born on Earth, and he ceased to exist on Earth. And that is that.

To George Carlin: You were the best.


Zhade (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-23-08 05:41 AM
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1. He really nailed the arrow of honesty through the heart of stupidity.
A real Cupid of truth. He will be missed.


Oregonian (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-23-08 05:49 AM
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2. More quotes on religion from Carlin:
George Carlin (b. 1937)
Satirical comic; free-speech activist

I would never want to be a member of a group whose symbol was a guy nailed to two pieces of wood.
-- George Carlin (attributed: source unknown)

I credit that eight years of grammar school with nourishing me in a direction where I could trust myself and trust my instincts. They gave me the tools to reject my faith. They taught me to question and think for myself and to believe in my instincts to such an extent that I just said, "This is a wonderful fairy tale they have going here, but it's not for me."
-- George Carlin, in the New York Times, August 20, 1995

If churches want to play the game of politics, let them pay admission like everyone else.
-- George Carlin (attributed: source unknown)

Religion: If this offends you, welcome to the world of sane and realistic critical thought. More harm has been done to the collective human psyche by religion than by all the fucking and cocksucking since the dawn of time. By the way, many religious people (including the ordained) fuck and suck each other's cocks all the time.
-- George Carlin, from the language warning sequence introducing the his website, www.geogrecarlin.com, that existed in late 2001 and early 2002

Instead of school busing and prayer in schools, which are both controversial, why not a joint solution? Prayer in buses. Just drive these kids around all day and let them pray their fuckn' empty little heads off.
-- George Carlin, Brain Droppings

George CarlinI'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
-- George Carlin (attributed: source unknown)

We created god in our own image and likeness!
-- George Carlin (attributed: source unknown)

I finally accepted Jesus -- not as my personal savior, but as a man I intend to borrow money from.
-- George Carlin, Brain Droppings

I've begun worshipping the Sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the Sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day. There's no mystery, no one asks for money, I don't have to dress up, and there's no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to God are all answered at about the same 50-percent rate.
-- George Carlin, Brain Droppings

Here's another question I've been pondering -- what is all this shit about angels? Have you heard this? Three out of four people belive in angels. Are you fucking stupid? Has everybody lost their mind? You know what I think it is? I think it's a massive, collective, psychotic chemical flashback for all the drugs smoked, swallowed, shot, and obsorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990. Thirty years of street drugs will get you some fucking angels, my friend!
-- George Carlin (attributed: source unknown)

What about Goblins, huh? Doesn't anybody belive in Goblins? You never hear about this. Except on Halloween and then it's all negative shit. And what about Zombies? You never hear from Zombies! That's the trouble with Zombies, they're unreliable! I say if you're going to go for the Angel bullshit you might as well go for the Zombie package as well.
-- George Carlin, You Are All Diseased

I don't have any beliefs or allegiances. I don't believe in this country, I don't believe in religion, or a god, and I don't believe in all these man-made institutional ideas.
-- George Carlin, quoted from Reuters / Variety "Notable Quotes" for April 25, 2001

I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
-- George Carlin, Brain Droppings

The two big mistakes were the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species. That's the source of my indignations, my dissatisfactions, however it comes out on the stage. I feel betrayed by the people I'm part of, these creatures, these magnificent creatures.
-- George Carlin, Orange County Register, March 1997

More at:

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/carlin.htm


Gee, I can really see why they think the world is worse off without a guy like that running around. At least they still have Senator KKK Byrd.

Oh, one poster dared criticize him and was immediately sacrificed to a golden Carlin idol.

ReaganForRus
06-23-2008, 05:04 PM
............and ted kennedy

everyman68
06-23-2008, 05:05 PM
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Gee, I can really see why they think the world is worse off without a guy like that running around. At least they still have Senator KKK Byrd.

Oh, one poster dared criticize him and was immediately sacrificed to a golden Carlin idol.

I never thought he was funny...

Shakespeare
06-23-2008, 05:06 PM
I'm just sayin'...

megimoo
06-23-2008, 05:17 PM
I never thought he was funny...And I ,I thought him a sarcastic old man trying his damnest to be humorous but never quite making it .GOD rest his soul ,RIP .

JB
06-23-2008, 05:18 PM
Goldy, silvery, irony...

He died at St. John's Health Center. A Catholic hospital. That he chose to go to earlier in the day.

That means when he went he was surrounded by God's image, crosses on the walls, etc. I wonder if the jerk-off received last rites.

nacho
06-23-2008, 05:21 PM
I'm just sayin'...

And I can. Jokes. But just vomiting out all the anger inside of a person doesn't make it all funny and joking just because it happens onstage at Bob's Chuckle House. No more than that Kramer guy's n-word outburst was a joke.

ralph wiggum
06-23-2008, 05:22 PM
I always loved his humor. I certainly didn't agree with some of his views, but the man was hilarious.

Lanie
06-23-2008, 05:29 PM
He was offensive, but I thought the guy was quite funny. He takes some of the stuff that I and several others were thinking that would normally be serious and make us laugh. Heck, even when I didn't agree with him he still said it in a way that made me laugh.

I liked his talk on the environment. He said we didn't need environmentalism because when the world has had enough, it'll shake us off and make the plastic a part of itself. I wish I could say it the way he did becaues it was a hoot.

Phillygirl
06-23-2008, 05:35 PM
I thought the guy was funny. He was not really a lefty...more libertarian to the extreme. And he had a great way of pointing out some of the ridiculousness of the banal in our world. In his later years he was not nearly as funny as he had been...relying a bit too much on bitterness for his source of humor. But the guy had a talent.

Even the title of his book "Napalm and Silly Putty" was funny. The absurdity of a country that could, and did, produce both.

ralph wiggum
06-23-2008, 05:35 PM
He was offensive, but I thought the guy was quite funny. He takes some of the stuff that I and several others were thinking that would normally be serious and make us laugh. Heck, even when I didn't agree with him he still said it in a way that made me laugh.

I liked his talk on the environment. He said we didn't need environmentalism because when the world has had enough, it'll shake us off and make the plastic a part of itself. I wish I could say it the way he did becaues it was a hoot.

I noticed that none of the DUmmies commented on Carlin's environmental stance. :rolleyes:

I always appreciated it as well. Oh well, once every couple of years, I agree with Lanie on something. :eek: :D

biccat
06-23-2008, 05:37 PM
He was offensive, but I thought the guy was quite funny. He takes some of the stuff that I and several others were thinking that would normally be serious and make us laugh. Heck, even when I didn't agree with him he still said it in a way that made me laugh.

I liked his talk on the environment. He said we didn't need environmentalism because when the world has had enough, it'll shake us off and make the plastic a part of itself. I wish I could say it the way he did becaues it was a hoot.

http://www.habitablezone.com/flame/messages/420992.html

"Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole."

ralph wiggum
06-23-2008, 05:38 PM
I thought the guy was funny. He was not really a lefty...more libertarian to the extreme. And he had a great way of pointing out some of the ridiculousness of the banal in our world. In his later years he was not nearly as funny as he had been...relying a bit too much on bitterness for his source of humor. But the guy had a talent.

Even the title of his book "Napalm and Silly Putty" was funny. The absurdity of a country that could, and did, produce both.

I liked the fact that his book "When Will Jesus bring the Pork Chops" offended pretty much every religion, just in the title. :cool:

Shakespeare
06-23-2008, 06:52 PM
And I can.
Good.
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it." GC
:D

FDK
06-23-2008, 07:04 PM
I thought the guy was funny. He was not really a lefty...more libertarian to the extreme. And he had a great way of pointing out some of the ridiculousness of the banal in our world. In his later years he was not nearly as funny as he had been...relying a bit too much on bitterness for his source of humor. But the guy had a talent.

Plus one.......

(How is one supposed to post whore efficiently with a 10 char minimum?:p)


RIP to Geroge. He made people laugh.

SarasotaRepub
06-23-2008, 07:10 PM
Never really saw him that often, can't remember the last time
but RIP.

MoshMasterD
06-23-2008, 07:39 PM
What the DUmmies failed to realize is, one, he never voted, and two, his wife's a conservative republican. Hope someone here has a pic of Carlin with Ann Coulter from the Tonight Show.

nacho
06-23-2008, 07:49 PM
Good.
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it." GC
:D

Does authority not largely have to do with how many people will believe you and follow you? In any case it still isn't funny, but at least it's not as supremely trashy as his other "material."

Phillygirl
06-23-2008, 07:58 PM
Does authority not largely have to do with how many people will believe you and follow you? In any case it still isn't funny, but at least it's not as supremely trashy as his other "material."

If you think about your statement for a bit I think you'll start to get the humor of Carlin. Or perhaps not.

Lanie
06-23-2008, 08:22 PM
I noticed that none of the DUmmies commented on Carlin's environmental stance. :rolleyes:

I always appreciated it as well. Oh well, once every couple of years, I agree with Lanie on something. :eek: :D

Well, I have be honest. This is one of those areas where I don't agree with Carlin, but thought the way he said it was funny.

http://www.habitablezone.com/flame/messages/420992.html


Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

We're going away. Pack your shit, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance


Actually, I have wondered if he might be right.

Oh, and this.


Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole.


:D

Shannon
06-23-2008, 08:34 PM
I always liked the part of whatever show it was where he said "did you ever notice that it's always your stuff but somebody else's shit?" Cracked me up.

Bubba Dawg
06-23-2008, 08:44 PM
I bought the ALBUM (vinyl) Class Clown when I was a teen. I loved it and was a Carlin Fan ever since.

Full of vinegar and piss and sarcasm. No sacred cows. He squared off solidly agains all manner of assholes and would point out anyone who was full of shit, regardless of their political stripe.

Dan D. Doty
06-23-2008, 09:42 PM
I thought the guy was funny. He was not really a lefty...more libertarian to the extreme. And he had a great way of pointing out some of the ridiculousness of the banal in our world. In his later years he was not nearly as funny as he had been...relying a bit too much on bitterness for his source of humor. But the guy had a talent.

Even the title of his book "Napalm and Silly Putty" was funny. The absurdity of a country that could, and did, produce both.

You're very insightful, and correct.

sofa king
06-23-2008, 11:16 PM
yes.

many years ago, and i'm talking of the time when richard pryor and george carlin (two of my all time favorites) were the kings of comedy. i would piss myself laughing, listening to everything they said. and buying every album they produced.





the problem is that george played the game too long. he retired too late. his funniest shit was decades old.

my lasting memory of him is those last 10 or so HBO specials he did. a man not being funny at all, just an old man ranting. not eliciting one laugh from me.

just an old man sounding bitter and hateful.


but you did make me laugh back in the day, mr. george carlin. and i appreciate that.

thank you. and god bless...

x5060
06-24-2008, 11:07 AM
I thought he was pretty funny. I didnt agree with him all the time, but i thought he was funny.

linda22003
06-24-2008, 12:21 PM
"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it."

Now, THAT's funny. :p

linda22003
06-24-2008, 12:32 PM
I always liked the part of whatever show it was where he said "did you ever notice that it's always your stuff but somebody else's shit?" Cracked me up.

Like his comparison of drivers. If they're blocking your progress, they're IDIOTS. If they go roaring past you because you're blocking theirs, they're MANIACS.

I always think of him when I (too often) get caught by a behavior he describes: In traffic, you crank up the volume on the music so you can hear it. Then you turn the car off and forget about it. When you start the ignition again and the same volume you previously set comes blaring out, you go, "Jesus Christ, was I listening to that?"

YupItsMe
06-24-2008, 02:14 PM
Well you've earned the eternity you wanted Mr. Carlin. I hope you enjoy it.

Zafod
06-24-2008, 02:49 PM
George on global warming.....


"George Carlin's "The Planet Is Fine"
We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the fucking planet?

I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of fucking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

We're going away. Pack your shit, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone.

movie buff
06-25-2008, 10:23 AM
Never liked Carlin much. Considering his bigoted comments, it's unsurprising the DUmmies are singing his praises.

linda22003
06-25-2008, 10:26 AM
His older stuff is more benign. HBO is running several of his specials this evening, beginning at 8 pm.

Zafod
06-25-2008, 01:23 PM
Carlin's stuff up to 1988 was good stuff that didnt rely on hate and if without the curse words the subject matter was stuff most family member would laugh at because it is true.

The album "messin with your head" was in my opinion the best one he ever did.

Eyelids
06-26-2008, 12:57 AM
How can you not find George Carlin funny?

sofa king
06-26-2008, 02:33 AM
yes, george was funny. like twenty years ago. maybe thirty years ago. i am old enough to remember the early days, the funny days.

i have hbo and i have seen all of his comedy specials. you can watch them too over the next few nights. toward the end i would just switch them off after a few minutes. watching them with no smiles, no laughs, just sadness.

in his old age he became an awful hack. just a rambling, unfunny, bitter shadow of his former self. not funny. not cool. it was so sad to watch his decline.


a man caught up in his own ego. once relevant. long past. someone that just couldn't keep up.

just a comedian. i've seen so many. he made me laugh once. others have too.

a comedy god? hardly...

Zafod
06-26-2008, 11:09 AM
How can you not find George Carlin funny?

You are a fucking tool.

Rebel Yell
06-26-2008, 12:13 PM
How can you not find George Carlin funny?

Will you say that when Michael Richards dies?

Eyelids
06-26-2008, 12:54 PM
Will you say that when Michael Richards dies?

If you dont find Kramer funny you have no soul.

Zafod
06-26-2008, 02:42 PM
If you dont find Kramer funny you have no soul.

Nothing but a complete fucking tool.

linda22003
06-26-2008, 02:43 PM
Nothing but a complete fucking tool.

Some people just aren't "Seinfeld" fans.

Zafod
06-26-2008, 02:45 PM
Some people just aren't "Seinfeld" fans.

I was refering to pink eye being a tool.....

Shannon
06-26-2008, 02:45 PM
Some people just aren't "Seinfeld" fans.

I loved Seinfeld but Kramer was my least favorite character. I'm in the minority on that though.