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AHeneen
02-14-2009, 03:21 AM
From Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/13/congress-readies-final-vote-b-stimulus/)

Congress Passes $787B Stimulus Bill, Sends It to Obama for Signature
The bill passed in the Senate with 60 votes after the House approved the measure earlier in the day by a vote of 246-183.

FOXNews.com
Friday, February 13, 2009

Washington The bill passed the Senate late Friday night with a vote of 60-38 after Democratic leadership held the vote open for several hours to allow one member, Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown, to return to Washington to cast the deciding vote. He had flown back from Ohio, where his mother died earlier in the week.

"We just passed this bill to help our struggling economy," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said.

The House approved the measure earlier in the day by a vote of 246-183, with no Republican "yes" votes and one member voting present.

House Republicans remained united in their opposition to the package despite concerns among GOP leaders Thursday that at least a handful of Republicans would vote for it. Democrats picked up three of the 11 members who jumped ship to side with Republicans on the previous vote two weeks ago.

Supporters said the legislation would save or create 3.5 million jobs. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., conceded there was no guarantee, but he said that "millions and millions and millions of people will be helped, as they have lost their jobs and can't put food on the table of their families."

Vigorously disagreeing, House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio dumped a copy of the 1,071-page bill to the floor in a gesture of contempt.

"The bill that was about jobs, jobs, jobs has turned into a bill that's about spending, spending, spending," he said.

Obama, addressing a White House group, noted that lawmakers had a "spirited debate" and said the legislation is "only the beginning" of what he considers necessary "to turn our economy around." The president did not get all he wanted out of the bill.

The 1,071 page measure -- eight inches thick -- was posted on an overburdened congressional Web site late Thursday, giving lawmakers just a few overnight hours to read it before debate resumed in both the House and Senate Friday morning. Just on Tuesday, the House voted unanimously to recommend that lawmakers and the public have at least 48 hours to read the legislation before a vote.

The plan, freshly estimated at $787 billion by the Congressional Budget Office, combines $281 billion in tax cuts with $308 billion in outlays funded by the appropriations committees and about $198 billion in spending for benefit programs such as unemployment assistance, $250 payments or millions of people receiving Social Security benefits, and extra money for states to help with the Medicaid health program for the poor and disabled.

Obama's "Making Work Pay" tax cut would be scaled back from $500 for most workers to $400, with couples getting $800 instead of $1,000.

Obama said Friday that "passing this bill is a critical step." He plans to announce a new housing initiative soon, perhaps as early as next week.

"We have a once in a generation chance to act boldly, turn adversity into opportunity, and use this crisis as a chance to transform our economy for the 21st century," the president said.

Click here for our video coverage about the Stimulus Package.

The plan is the signature initiative of the fledgling Obama administration, which is betting that combining tax cuts of just a few dollars a week for most workers with an infusion of hundreds of billions of dollars of government spending over the next few years will arrest the economy's fall.

But the inclusion of a $70 billion tax break to make sure middle- to upper-income taxpayers won't get hit by the alternative minimum tax forced a reduction of Obama's signature tax break for 95 percent of workers.

Republicans pointed out a bevy of questionable spending items that made the final cut in House-Senate negotiations, including money to replace computers at federal agencies, inspect canals, and issue coupons for convertor boxes to help people watch TV when the changeover to digital signals occurs this summer.

"This measure is not bipartisan. It contains much that is not stimulative," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Obama's rival for the White House. "And is nothing short -- nothing short -- of generational theft" since it burdens future generations with so much debt, he added.

Obama economics adviser Larry Summers cautioned against raising expectations too high.

"I think this is a key part of what's going to be a multipart strategy to contain this decline," he said. But Summers added that the problems "weren't made in a week, a month, a year. It's going to take time to fix." He said it should not be considered a "silver bullet," or panacea for deeply rooted business woes.

Much of the spending won't be delivered this year or even next, and Republicans pointed to studies by the Congressional Budget Office that say that adding so much to the national debt would cost the economy by the end of the decade.

Republicans, lined up to vote against the bill, piled on the scorn.

"This is not the smart approach," said Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader. "The taxpayers of today and tomorrow will be left to clean up the mess."

It was clear that the measure was the result of old-fashioned sausage-making. Pet provisions were coming to light that had not been included in the original bills that passed the House or Senate -- or that differed markedly from earlier versions. Some appeared to brush up against claims of the bill's supporters that no pet projects known as "earmarks" were included.

FOX News' Chad Pergram and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

cat714
02-14-2009, 03:43 AM
Total bullshit and we can thank those fucking RINOs for selling out the people. :mad:

AmPat
02-15-2009, 12:02 AM
Congress Passes $787 Billion Stimulus Bill, Sends It to Obama for Signature
Stand by to crash.:cool:

tacitus
02-15-2009, 04:16 AM
Total bullshit and we can thank those fucking RINOs for selling out the people. :mad:

Don't forget to blame the morons that voted for those bastards and all the others in cahoots with the magic negro.

Matthieu
02-16-2009, 08:55 AM
Meh, we won't cash because of this stimulus. After all, the market endured 8 years of Bush stimuli (deficit spending carte blanche) and it only tanked a little. :p

AmPat
02-16-2009, 10:05 PM
Meh, we won't cash because of this stimulus. After all, the market endured 8 years of Bush stimuli (deficit spending carte blanche) and it only tanked a little. :p

Spending divided by 8 YEARS as opposed to spending divided by 4 WEEKS. Give Obama time. Since the Porkulous bill didn't address the root cause or job creation, we'll need another huge bill. This one will have to have a different name so as not to confuse us. The DIMS passed their favorite pork under the guise of stimulus, using fear as their tactic.

Maybe they'll be honest next time and call it the Ridiculus Bill.;)

PoliCon
02-17-2009, 12:42 AM
every bastard who voted for this bill without having read it needs to be shot.

AmPat
02-17-2009, 03:36 AM
every bastard who voted for this bill without having read it needs to be shot.

1000+ pages. That would pretty much clear the table. What's to lose, we can't do much worse?

The patriot in me wants this to work, the Conservative in me wants it to fail (to out the idiocy of liberalism), and the logic in me says it will make things worse,,,,,,,,,,,,and for a longer duration.:(

PoliCon
02-17-2009, 12:07 PM
I called Bob Caseys office this morning to voice my displeasure that the tool vote for a bill he didn't even read -My exact words were: Does the senator have an explanation for his gross malfeasance and dereliction of his duty to the people of Pennsylvania in voting for a bill that he did not even read? - and the spin doctor he has answering the phones says - "He did read the bill." WHAT?? She then spun it to equate that having a staffer read it was the same as him having read it himself. BULLSHIT. And I told her as much. Has anyone else called their senators?

AmPat
02-17-2009, 06:54 PM
I called Bob Caseys office this morning to voice my displeasure that the tool vote for a bill he didn't even read -My exact words were: Does the senator have an explanation for his gross malfeasance and dereliction of his duty to the people of Pennsylvania in voting for a bill that he did not even read? - and the spin doctor he has answering the phones says - "He did read the bill." WHAT?? She then spun it to equate that having a staffer read it was the same as him having read it himself. BULLSHIT. And I told her as much. Has anyone else called their senators?

They actually think that we believe this? That is insulting. :mad:

patriot45
02-17-2009, 07:13 PM
A little snippet from Rush yesterday.




The same people, very people who said the housing crisis was because borrowers didn't read their mortgage terms now tell us they didn't read the Porkulus bill before they voted for it

You see, "crisis" and "collapse" were words, just words. The stimulus scheme that had to be voted on Friday will not be signed until tomorrow, so, "Hello, suckers." (laughing) Even after the passage the story line remains: "Obama won, the Republicans didn't support him." Nobody's asking, did America win? Because the Drive-Bys are equating Obama's success with America's success. The reason nobody's asking, did America win, is because they know the answer. America did not win. Americans will be paying the price for years, if not decades to come. In fact, ladies and gentlemen, from Reuters: "President Barack Obama's aides warned Americans on Sunday not to expect instant miracles from the stimulus bill that he will sign tomorrow." They said it will help eventually. By the way, Obama has said that things are going to get worse even after he has signed this.