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gator
05-30-2008, 04:36 PM
Here Bob's little E-Mail: (remind me never to piss him off)

Scott,

There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don't have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues. No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.

In my nearly 36 years of public service I've known of a few like you. No doubt you will "clean up" as the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm. When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, "Biting The Hand That Fed Me." Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years.

I have no intention of reading your "exposť" because if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been, you should have spoken up publicly like a man, or quit your cushy, high profile job. That would have taken integrity and courage but then you would have had credibility and your complaints could have been aired objectively. You're a hot ticket now but don't you, deep down, feel like a total ingrate?

BOB DOLE

Rebel Yell
05-30-2008, 04:41 PM
This is the only way that could have been better........


Scott,

There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don't have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues. No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.

In Bob Dole's nearly 36 years of public service Bob Dole has known of a few like you. No doubt you will "clean up" as the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm. When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, "Biting The Hand That Fed Me." Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years.

Bob Dole has no intention of reading your "exposť" because if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been, you should have spoken up publicly like a man, or quit your cushy, high profile job. That would have taken integrity and courage but then you would have had credibility and your complaints could have been aired objectively. You're a hot ticket now but don't you, deep down, feel like a total ingrate?

BOB DOLE

Have a good weekend.

Aklover
05-30-2008, 05:20 PM
Well written. Did it make the news?

Zathras
05-30-2008, 06:35 PM
Well written. Did it make the news?

*sound of crickets*

Guess not.....I'm just so surprised!!!!

nightflight
05-30-2008, 06:38 PM
Well written. Did it make the news?

Not old media, anyway.

SarasotaRepub
05-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Well written. Did it make the news?


They mentioned it on Fox yesterday.

Good job Mr. Dole! :D
Very eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil...

jendf
05-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Here Bob's little E-Mail: (remind me never to piss him off)

Scott,

There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don't have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues. No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique.

In my nearly 36 years of public service I've known of a few like you. No doubt you will "clean up" as the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm. When the money starts rolling in you should donate it to a worthy cause, something like, "Biting The Hand That Fed Me." Another thought is to weasel your way back into the White House if a Democrat is elected. That would provide a good set up for a second book deal in a few years.

I have no intention of reading your "exposť" because if all these awful things were happening, and perhaps some may have been, you should have spoken up publicly like a man, or quit your cushy, high profile job. That would have taken integrity and courage but then you would have had credibility and your complaints could have been aired objectively. You're a hot ticket now but don't you, deep down, feel like a total ingrate?

BOB DOLE

Bob Dole was the very first presidential candidate I was able to vote for. I don't regret it.

Shannon
05-30-2008, 07:25 PM
Bob Dole was the very first presidential candidate I was able to vote for. I don't regret it.

Me too! I was 17 when Clinton won. I was miserable.

Shooster
05-30-2008, 07:32 PM
I didn't know the old boy had it in him. Good for him! Scott deserves every bit of it. He sold his soul to a Liberal publisher. He better spend his money wisely, he might have a long dry spell.

SaintLouieWoman
05-30-2008, 07:55 PM
I didn't know the old boy had it in him. Good for him! Scott deserves every bit of it. He sold his soul to a Liberal publisher. He better spend his money wisely, he might have a long dry spell.

On Fox they said that Dole mentioned that Scott could expect his newfound lib friends to not stand by him; that he had burned too many bridges with his conservative friends.

I'm amazed that Dole came out this strongly. He's usually much more restrained. Good for him for being at a time in life where he doesn't give a damn what people think and just tells it how it is.

I attended a political rally for Dole when he was running for Pres. They had the Gatling Brothers playing as the warm up to the Dole visit. Ironically, it was in a park not far from where we live now.

Eyelids
05-31-2008, 04:44 AM
Scott McClellan did speak up, isnt that what this whole thing is about? If the Administration was really lying and decieving the public wouldn't SMC been doing the country a disservice by staying quiet? He outed Bush for what most of the country already knows he is.

[/I wont respond to your canned comments on this. So dont bother]Bush's involvement in Scooter Libby would've been grounds for impeachment a few years ago, but the gesture is merely symbolic at this point and a waste of everyones' time.[/I wont respond to your canned comments on this. So dont bother]

Bob Dole is a coward here, piling on a guy and towing the party line when he has nothing to gain. Old irrelevant washed up loser trying to get back in the news, any responsible journalist would shred this crap before it hit their desk.

gator
05-31-2008, 07:09 AM
Bob Dole is a coward here,

You are probably the first person in the history of the world to call Bob Dole a coward.

Constitutionally Speaking
05-31-2008, 08:14 AM
Scott McClellan did speak up, isnt that what this whole thing is about? If the Administration was really lying and decieving the public wouldn't SMC been doing the country a disservice by staying quiet? He outed Bush for what most of the country already knows he is.

[/I wont respond to your canned comments on this. So dont bother]Bush's involvement in Scooter Libby would've been grounds for impeachment a few years ago, but the gesture is merely symbolic at this point and a waste of everyones' time.[/I wont respond to your canned comments on this. So dont bother]

Bob Dole is a coward here, piling on a guy and towing the party line when he has nothing to gain. Old irrelevant washed up loser trying to get back in the news, any responsible journalist would shred this crap before it hit their desk.


Except you are lying on Bush's involvement with Scooter Libby. The anti-war State Dept. employee Richard Armitage was the leaker.

HE ADMITTED IT and the publisher of the leak, Robert Novak CONFIRMED it.

Get your facts straight.


There also is NO specific allegation. Why didn't Scotty use anything that could actually be checked out????

megimoo
05-31-2008, 08:22 AM
I was trying to figure out why Bob Doyle would post on N.U.,wrong Scott ?

AmPat
05-31-2008, 08:24 AM
Except you are lying on Bush's involvement with Scooter Libby. The anti-war State Dept. employee Richard Armitage was the leaker.

HE ADMITTED IT and the publisher of the leak, Robert Novak CONFIRMED it.

Get your facts straight.


There also is NO specific allegation. Why didn't Scotty use anything that could actually be checked out????

In eyelib's world, and generally speaking, all liberals require is blind acceptance of anything anti-Bush. Facts are never required, unsupported allegations against Republicans are enough. K.O. and Colmes were orgasmic over this.

Shooster
05-31-2008, 09:19 AM
I wouldn't read the book myself but I hear it accomplished what the publisher wanted it to. Sales and a new investigation. They couldn't uncover any evidence against President Bush in all the hearings they had so far, I don't expect they will find anything new now. Liberals will give Scott his fifteen minutes of fame, then forget about him.

LogansPapa
05-31-2008, 10:23 AM
You are probably the first person in the history of the world to call Bob Dole a coward.


Boy, that's no shit.:cool:

Eyelids
05-31-2008, 11:27 AM
Except you are lying on Bush's involvement with Scooter Libby. The anti-war State Dept. employee Richard Armitage was the leaker.

HE ADMITTED IT and the publisher of the leak, Robert Novak CONFIRMED it.

Get your facts straight.


There also is NO specific allegation. Why didn't Scotty use anything that could actually be checked out????

Can you read?

megimoo
05-31-2008, 01:33 PM
Soros Publisher 'Shaped' McClellan's Hit Job: Other publishers don't recognize it as the same book
An examination of published reports reveals that Scott McClellan's kiss-and-smell betrayal of George W. Bush is a far cry from the book McClellan started out to write and was shaped into an offensive tome by a publisher with close ties to George Soros. To understand how McClellan's literary knife-in-the-back evolved, one has to know something about the book industry. snip

And then there is this clown :(Wexler Screeches For Impeachment Based On McClellan Book)Palm Beaches/ New Yorkers in exile's own Congressional mouth piece !

Wexler is a good example of a complete liberal Congresscritter,large mouth,empty head,Whining voice and lots of Chutzpah, Hebrew word , meaning "insolence", "audacity", and "impertinence".

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/soros_publisher_shaped_mcclell.html

Rebel Yell
06-02-2008, 09:40 AM
Saw this in the paper over the weekend, the highlighted portion tells how I think it went down.


A Matter of Loyalty
By Michael Reagan May 28, 2008

It's amazing what some people will do for 30 pieces of silver.

Scott McClellan was given the signal honor of being the spokesman for the president of the United States, a distinction few Americans have ever achieved. Being the spokesman for the world's most powerful political figure is no small thing, and I'm sure that the men and women who have held the post view their service as an honor more given that deserved.

It doesn't appear as if McClellan sees it that way. He is not the first press secretary to be forced out of the job, and he won't be the last. But he'll be the first to sink his teeth into the hand that gave him the job in the first place.

It is a tough job, especially when the spokesman of a president the liberal media despises wears a large bullís eye on his chest. It's an even tougher job when the person who holds the job is clearly not up to it, as was the case with McClellan. He was an easy target for the nastier members of the largely hostile White House Press corps.

His lack of competence is what cost him the job, and it is now obvious that he left the White House burning with resentment over his forced departure. The fact that he had held the job as long as he did obviously created no sense of gratitude for his having been given the post to begin with.

His act of vengeance has delighted the media who once excoriated him. Their onetime foe is now their hero, an ally in their never-ending campaign to portray George Bush, a good and decent man, as a bumbling fool if not an outright criminal.

They greet his alleged revelations with none of the skepticism with which they once treated his pronouncements from the White House press room podium, accepting, for example, his attempt to lay the blame for what Richard Armitage did in leaking the name of Valerie Plame on his old friend and Texas colleague, Karl Rove, and Scooter Libby.

They let out a great cheer when he joins the chorus of Democrats and their media henchmen attributing the Iraq war to sleazy, dishonest and hugely deceptive White House maneuvering when the real facts show otherwise.

As David Horowitz and his co-author Ben Johnson write in "Party of Defeat," George Bush acted solely to enforce a United Nations ultimatum blatantly ignored by Saddam Hussein.

Wrote the authors: "The United States went to war because it had concluded that Saddam Hussein could not be trusted to observe the arms agreement embedded in the UN resolutions. Twelve years of defiance and obstruction leading up to, and including the December 7 deadline had established that fact. Even then, the Bush administration was prepared to forego war if Saddam and his sons left the country and went into exile, thus allowing the terms of the UN resolutions to be met."

Scott McClellan surely knew this but chose to ignore it, preferring to give ammunition to those who want to advance a false view of the conflict's genesis.

In the end, it's all about money. An honest book about his experiences wouldn't sell. If he wanted to sell his book, it had to dish up dirt, even when there wasn't any underfoot.

When I wrote my first book, "On the Outside Looking in," I had publishers waving huge royalties in my face if I would only sling mud at my father. They couldn't understand that there was simply no mud in his life and work, and I wasn't willing to create any for them for the sake of big bucks.

Too bad Scott McClellan, blinded by the glitter of those 30 pieces of sliver, didn't see it that way.

Goldwater
06-02-2008, 09:43 AM
Scott McClellan did speak up, isnt that what this whole thing is about? If the Administration was really lying and decieving the public wouldn't SMC been doing the country a disservice by staying quiet? He outed Bush for what most of the country already knows he is.

Well no, why didn't he quit at the time and then go public? We might not have even gone to war if he had done that, but no, he bends over backwards and decides to stab people in the back after serving them loyally and make some money out of it.

Although I am glad it's coming out still.

linda22003
06-02-2008, 09:45 AM
Well written. Did it make the news?

Yes. Tim Russert spent a chunk of time on it on "Meet the Press".

Eyelids
06-02-2008, 02:18 PM
Well no, why didn't he quit at the time and then go public? We might not have even gone to war if he had done that, but no, he bends over backwards and decides to stab people in the back after serving them loyally and make some money out of it.

Although I am glad it's coming out still.

Loyalty is trivial compared when you understand the massive role the United States plays in the world. Its archaic and outdated, so it kind of figures that people here would cling to it so much.

LogansPapa
06-02-2008, 02:23 PM
On the issue of Scottís timing - do White House staff have to sign some kind of contract not to disclose for a certain amount of time? Could be - somebody just really ticked him off and this is revenge.

lacarnut
06-02-2008, 03:37 PM
On the issue of Scottís timing - do White House staff have to sign some kind of contract not to disclose for a certain amount of time? Could be - somebody just really ticked him off and this is revenge.

Scott was fired because of his incompetence; Tony Snow made him look like a lightweight.

LogansPapa
06-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Scott was fired because of his incompetence

:confused: Really? Didn't know that - LINK?

Goldwater
06-02-2008, 10:24 PM
Loyalty is trivial compared when you understand the massive role the United States plays in the world. Its archaic and outdated, so it kind of figures that people here would cling to it so much.

Nice to see you took one word out of context in my post and changed the meaning of it so you could answer back to it. Not sure why I bothered responding to you.

Constitutionally Speaking
06-04-2008, 06:49 AM
Can you read?


I can read fine. Can you??? What part of what I said do you take issue with??

Eyelids
06-04-2008, 01:15 PM
I can read fine. Can you??? What part of what I said do you take issue with??

I said I wouldnt bother with your canned responses about George Bush.

Vepr
06-04-2008, 02:24 PM
It is always entertaining when these things happen no matter what side of the fence they come from. A person that one side would not trust as far as they could throw them all of the sudden become the purveyor of truth and justice as soon as they turn and bite the hand that feeds them. On the flip side the same person that was trusted by the other side and given the benefit of the doubt on all things suddenly becomes a vile creature worthy of nothing but contempt. Nothing new but always entertaining.

biccat
06-04-2008, 02:53 PM
I said I wouldnt bother with your canned responses about George Bush.
Ah, delicious irony.

AmPat
06-06-2008, 07:13 PM
Loyalty is trivial compared when you understand the massive role the United States plays in the world. Its archaic and outdated, so it kind of figures that people here would cling to it so much.
I guess those uneducated white folk can add one more character flaw, they're suckers for loyalty.:rolleyes:

Constitutionally Speaking
06-08-2008, 11:17 AM
I said I wouldnt bother with your canned responses about George Bush.



What did I say that was untrue?????

Zathras
06-08-2008, 12:34 PM
What did I say that was untrue?????

Nothing. Eyesclosed can't deal with it because it's true.