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biccat
02-16-2009, 08:12 AM
Chavez wins vote to scrap term limits in Venezuela (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96CD0C01&show_article=1)

President Hugo Chavez won a referendum to eliminate term limits Sunday, paving the way for him to run again in 2012—and beyond—and push through his vision of a socialist Venezuela.

Fireworks exploded in the sky and caravans of supporters celebrated in the streets, waving red flags and honking horns.

With 94 percent of the vote counted, 54 percent had voted in favor of the constitutional amendment, National Electoral Council chief Tibisay Lucena announced. Forty-six percent had voted against the measure to eliminate term limits on all public officials, too few to make up the distance with the remaining votes.

America in 8 years? :eek:

tacitus
02-16-2009, 10:23 AM
America in 8 years? :eek:

The socialists will work hard to get the term limits for the magic negro changed so he can be dictator for life and I doubt it will take them 8 years. However if the magic negro's performance slips any more, he many be lucky to get re-elected.

Space Gravy
02-16-2009, 10:55 AM
Anyone else surprised that 46% voted against this measure? I thought he had more it more in his back pocket than that. I wonder if Jimmy Carter will have a comment about this beacon of light he so adores?

Space Gravy
02-16-2009, 10:56 AM
The socialists will work hard to get the term limits for the magic negro changed so he can be dictator for life and I doubt it will take them 8 years. However if the magic negro's performance slips any more, he many be lucky to get re-elected.

They can try but they still have to deal with the SCOTUS defending the constitution.

tacitus
02-16-2009, 11:05 AM
The face of SCOTUS will change during the reign of the magic negro and they will not be a problem.

Celtic Rose
02-16-2009, 11:08 AM
The face of SCOTUS will change during the reign of the magic negro and they will not be a problem.

Either that or he'll go the FDR route and threaten to add more justices if they get in his way :cool:

PoliCon
02-16-2009, 11:22 AM
The socialists will work hard to get the term limits for the magic negro changed so he can be dictator for life and I doubt it will take them 8 years. However if the magic negro's performance slips any more, he many be lucky to get re-elected.

remember when they said that Bush was going to try this? Funneh how they're the one's actually attempting it!

Space Gravy
02-16-2009, 11:23 AM
Good lord. It's getting bat shit crazy around here like DU saying W was going to pull the same thing.

PoliCon
02-16-2009, 11:29 AM
Good lord. It's getting bat shit crazy around here like DU saying W was going to pull the same thing.

the left has introduced a bill to repeal term limits. Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., earlier this month introduced the bill, H. J. Res. 5, which, according to the bill’s language, proposes “an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.”

Space Gravy
02-16-2009, 11:37 AM
the left has introduced a bill to repeal term limits. Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., earlier this month introduced the bill, H. J. Res. 5, which, according to the bill’s language, proposes “an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.”

When it passes and becomes law I'll be glad to admit I was wrong.

PoliCon
02-16-2009, 12:24 PM
When it passes and becomes law I'll be glad to admit I was wrong.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

THE RESISTANCE
02-16-2009, 03:06 PM
While this nation has fiddled around the world, the back porch has rottened and fallen into decay.

Chavez is a Hitler in the making and appeasement of him will work just as well as it did for Hitler.

We should make plans to defend against the Socialist/communist in South America. But wait neither party will do that for they are controlled by same.

The United States, the last surviving free nation on Earth; for now. It was a good run to bad "We the People..." are so stupid, to bad for our Children.

biccat
02-16-2009, 03:21 PM
Good lord. It's getting bat shit crazy around here like DU saying W was going to pull the same thing.

No, the difference is that when DU talked about W repealing the 22nd amendment and be Dictator for Life (tm), they did so out of some crazy idea that he might do it.

When we discuss it, it's based on facts. Clinton talked about repealing the 22nd amendment. A Democrat Congressman proposed repealing the 22nd amendment. The left cheers when Chavez manages to repeal similar controls.

In contrast, did George Bush ever suggest that he should get a third term? Did the majority Republican Congress during his first term try to repeal the 22nd amendment? Hmm...nope.

AHeneen
02-16-2009, 06:23 PM
Anyone else surprised that 46% voted against this measure? I thought he had more it more in his back pocket than that. I wonder if Jimmy Carter will have a comment about this beacon of light he so adores?

No, haven't you read any news in the past few years. Venezuela is roughly divided between those who absolutely love the man and those who absolutely loathe Chavez. This is the third time this term-limit amendment has been voted on...the previous two times this was put to a vote it was rejected.

Lanie
02-16-2009, 09:39 PM
Chavez wins vote to scrap term limits in Venezuela (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96CD0C01&show_article=1)

President Hugo Chavez won a referendum to eliminate term limits Sunday, paving the way for him to run again in 2012—and beyond—and push through his vision of a socialist Venezuela.

Fireworks exploded in the sky and caravans of supporters celebrated in the streets, waving red flags and honking horns.

With 94 percent of the vote counted, 54 percent had voted in favor of the constitutional amendment, National Electoral Council chief Tibisay Lucena announced. Forty-six percent had voted against the measure to eliminate term limits on all public officials, too few to make up the distance with the remaining votes.

America in 8 years? :eek:


Chavez is a total asshole. I can't believe that happened.

As for America, it has nothing to do with us outside of our dealings with them.

Lanie
02-16-2009, 09:41 PM
The socialists will work hard to get the term limits for the magic negro changed so he can be dictator for life and I doubt it will take them 8 years. However if the magic negro's performance slips any more, he many be lucky to get re-elected.

You can't be serious. America has term limits. We're not getting rid of them. We might occasionally vote somebody in who is considered to be a Social Democrat (Social Democrat, because it's not called Socialism in the other countries with leaders like that), but we'll continue to have term limits.

Mythic
02-16-2009, 11:37 PM
You can't be serious. America has term limits. We're not getting rid of them. We might occasionally vote somebody in who is considered to be a Social Democrat (Social Democrat, because it's not called Socialism in the other countries with leaders like that), but we'll continue to have term limits.
I think that it would be VERY unlikely that term limits would be removed in the US. But a number of leaders on the left HAVE proposed ammendments to the constitution that would end the term limit.

As biccat said:

When we discuss it, it's based on facts. Clinton talked about repealing the 22nd amendment. A Democrat Congressman proposed repealing the 22nd amendment. The left cheers when Chavez manages to repeal similar controls.

jeskibuff
02-17-2009, 06:15 AM
You can't be serious. America has term limits. We're not getting rid of them.Yep, you're right. We'd also NEVER vote in a President who has absolutely NO executive experience, had no accomplishments in his political career and whose sole mentors in his life have been socialists, communists, America-haters and con artists, would we? :rolleyes:

I can't help but think this election had been tweaked to get the results. Chavez tries 2 times before and fails, so on the 3rd try he corrects the "flaws" in the earlier voting process. Maybe enough stupid people REALLY voted for it, just as enough brain-dead people had the stupidity to vote for Obummer.

AmPat
02-17-2009, 10:09 AM
When it passes and becomes law I'll be glad to admit I was wrong.

Actually your'e wrong now. You accused us of being as "Bat Shit crazy as DU."

Quote:
Originally Posted by tacitus
The socialists will work hard to get the term limits for the magic negro changed so he can be dictator for life and I doubt it will take them 8 years. However if the magic negro's performance slips any more, he many be lucky to get re-elected.

remember when they said that Bush was going to try this? Funneh how they're the one's actually attempting it!
The response submitted in proof was:
Originally Posted by PoliCon
the left has introduced a bill to repeal term limits. Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., earlier this month introduced the bill, H. J. Res. 5, which, according to the bill’s language, proposes “an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.”

It appears as though the left is indeed trying to pull a Chavez. ;)

AmPat
02-17-2009, 10:14 AM
No, haven't you read any news in the past few years. Venezuela is roughly divided between those who absolutely love the man and those who absolutely loathe Chavez. This is the third time this term-limit amendment has been voted on...the previous two times this was put to a vote it was rejected.

Chavez is following the dictator for life template to the letter. A few years ago he kicked out all the Christian missionaries. He acts no differently than any other small- brained leftist dictator.

It appears as if the Venezuelan voters are just as DUmb as the U.S. voters. :(

THE RESISTANCE
02-17-2009, 10:40 AM
Chavez is a total asshole. I can't believe that happened.

As for America, it has nothing to do with us outside of our dealings with them.


Its that democracy thing.

Most people are not smart enough to understand the difference between freedom and slavery and add that to those that are smart enough to push the Socialist/Communist/fascist agenda on them then you get these results, what they equal to.

The people of Venezuela, other Socialist /Communist countrys are being taught away from real Liberty and real freedom. It is something shared by this nation with them. Individual rights exposed as the truth it is to the people constantly in each generation to be learned and understand supported by a strong Constitutional republic is where freedom lives.

Not you particular, but people need to look at that liitle bit of freedom they wish to take from their neighbor, others and realize how much it can add up and realize that " You might be a Socialist." or You might be a Communist." or "You might be a fascist."

Odysseus
02-17-2009, 02:57 PM
While this nation has fiddled around the world, the back porch has rottened and fallen into decay.
Chavez is a Hitler in the making and appeasement of him will work just as well as it did for Hitler.
Chavez is a poor man's Mussolini. Ahmedinejad is the new Hitler, although given the Islamic jihad, it could also turn out to be Bin Laden.

Its that democracy thing.

Most people are not smart enough to understand the difference between freedom and slavery and add that to those that are smart enough to push the Socialist/Communist/fascist agenda on them then you get these results, what they equal to.
The problem isn't that people are stupid, it's that they are poorly informed by those who claim to represent their interests. A national media that prides itself on its partisanship for one party (even as it denounces anyone who points it out) is as dishonest a broker as can be imagined, and so long as that media is the sole source of news for most of the country, the people will continue to be misled. In Venezuela, as in the US, the elite media was perfectly happy to make a deal with the party that gave them what they wanted, which was a perpetuation of their market shares, unencumbered by competition.

PoliCon
02-17-2009, 07:14 PM
Chavez is a poor man's Mussolini. Ahmedinejad is the new Hitler, although given the Islamic jihad, it could also turn out to be Bin Laden.

The problem isn't that people are stupid, it's that they are poorly informed by those who claim to represent their interests. You're right that the media keep us poorly informed - but you left out the malfeasance of the educrats who go out of their way shaping education to be used to advance an agenda rather than to educate.

THE RESISTANCE
02-17-2009, 07:44 PM
Odysseus, I used Hitler for he is the Better Known Fascist.


What you say of the Media is true that is why we must have the real definitions of freedom and liberty taught our young.

The goal of Socialism and Communism is to bury the past in all forms so they can "progress" a nation from reason.
They do this in many ways with one road being political correctness over reason. Until it is viewed as reason and reason viewed as radical. It is laughable when you hear someone, liberal/socialist speak of the founders as liberals or radicals. Though they were Classical Liberals which is a difference as lead is to gold to what has been mutated into modern liberal/socialist.


History and the Constitution are viewed by them as obstacles to be overcome and buried unless it can be twisted to achieve their goals.

Goldwater
02-17-2009, 08:28 PM
The media don't keep you poorly informed, you do. The amount of media thats out there today, allows you to go to the source instead of the source coming to you.

patriot45
02-17-2009, 08:31 PM
The media don't keep you poorly informed, you do. The amount of media thats out there today, allows you to go to the source instead of the source coming to you.

I think he is talking about the Dumbmasses, not informed people as us! :D

Odysseus
02-17-2009, 09:55 PM
The media don't keep you poorly informed, you do. The amount of media thats out there today, allows you to go to the source instead of the source coming to you.
See below.

I think he is talking about the Dumbmasses, not informed people as us! :D
What he said.