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Gingersnap
02-19-2009, 11:25 AM
WWII headline creates flap at VA hospital

Published: Feb. 18, 2009 at 4:25

INDIANAPOLIS, Feb. 18 (UPI) -- The director of a VA hospital in Indiana has offended some veterans by removing a framed newspaper with the headline "Japs Surrender."

The framed front page of the Indianapolis Times had been hanging at the Roudebush Veterans Affairs Medical Center for more than 60 years. Director Tom Mattice said he decided to take it down after a new employee complained about the display of an ethnic slur from World War II, the Indianapolis Star reported Wednesday.

Ronald "Bud" Albright, who commands a Marine Corps League chapter, has launched a campaign to get the newspaper back on the wall. He hopes veterans from around the country will write to complain.

"We feel it's a slap in the face of the U.S. military," he said. "That newspaper is history, part of United States history."

Mattice said he has asked the VA's national ethics office for guidance. He has also assigned a member of his staff to look for an alternate newspaper front page -- "Something like 'Victory in the Pacific' or 'Japanese Surrender.' "

That would go up next to the newspaper from three months earlier that proclaims "GERMANY QUITS."

:rolleyes:

UPI (http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/02/18/WWII_headline_creates_flap_at_VA_hospital/UPI-98421234992335/)

megimoo
02-19-2009, 12:48 PM
:rolleyes:

UPI (http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/02/18/WWII_headline_creates_flap_at_VA_hospital/UPI-98421234992335/)

Word from World War sparks a war of words,VA says headline slur offended, but removal of paper offends vets

Tom Mattice said he was trying to promote a “healing environment” when he removed the old, yellowing wall decoration from a hallway at the VA hospital.But in doing so, the hospital director has opened an old wound — and spurred debate about political correctness, free speech and how to be true to history without being offensive.At issue is a framed newspaper front page from an August 1945 Indianapolis Times. The headline: “Japs Surrender.”

Mattice, director of the Roudebush Veterans Affairs Medical Center, said there’d been a complaint: A new employee was offended by the term “Japs,” a commonly used slur during World War II."It's Been there for 60 years .

So, Mattice took down the framed front page, which is now tucked away in the center’s executive offices.
That decision, however, has riled a group of retired Marines who call it whitewashing history and akin to offering an apology that isn’t due. They are campaigning to have the artifact put back on the wall, where it had hung alongside other World War II memorabilia for more than a decade.

Said Ronald “Bud” Albright, who as commandant of the local Marine Corps League chapter has started a letter-writing campaign among veterans nationwide: “We feel it’s a slap in the face of the U.S. military. That newspaper is history, part of United States history.”Dust-ups over such public displays are common and invariably emotion-charged. Last month, Indianapolis International Airport altered a photo exhibit after fielding a complaint over a provocative view of Israel and American Jews expressed in one of the captions.

In 2002, some students at Indiana University fought for the removal of a Thomas Hart Benton mural depicting Indiana history in Woodburn Hall because it showed Ku Klux Klansmen. The mural stayed; the KKK is a part of Indiana history.

The term “Jap” is a part of American history, emblematic of the racial prejudice that was promoted during World War II.“A precondition to fight a war is to dehumanize the enemy,” said Guy Burgess, a co-director of the Conflict Research Consortium at the University of Colorado. “If you think of them as humans, you can’t do the things war compels you to do.”

In the case of Japan and Germany, Burgess said, it was an easy sell. “There was lots of real evil in the Axis countries,” he said.But that was more than 60 years ago. The Japanese, as well as the Germans and the Italians, have been allied with us ever since.

“The war’s over, but if you’re going to tell it like it is, then you tell it like it was, and that’s the way it was, just like that newspaper said it,” said John Gromosiak, a Korean War veteran and artist. Gromosiak’s paintings of American warships line the VA’s hallway near where “Japs Surrender” used to hang and where another newspaper, proclaiming “GERMANY QUITS,” hangs still. “You cannot hide history, or you shouldn’t.”

Museums frequently must tread lightly, which they do by pairing controversial displays with detailed explanations. As part of the National World War II Museum’s exhibit of propaganda posters, captions prepare the viewer for what they’re seeing and put the grotesque images into context.

“You would never want to put up an object without interpreting it,” said Kacey Hill, a spokeswoman for the New Orleans museum.“But we are not a museum,” said Mattice, the VA director. “A museum is where people go to understand the history. We are a medical center.”

"Yeah a medical center for the same Marines who fought and died fighting those same vicious 'Japs' ,You Idiot !!"

" This Idiot Should be Removed and Replaced.He is Obviously too 'Stuck on Stupid with Infectious P.C. ' to Serve Effectively !"

Mattice said he has contacted the VA’s national ethics office for a ruling on how to proceed. “Should we as a nationwide organization have a stance on these kinds of materials?” he wondered. “Perhaps we should.”

In the meantime, he searches for a compromise. Mattice has instructed one of his staffers to locate a different newspaper front page, one that carries the same news, of the war’s end, but expressed more delicately.“Something like ‘Victory in the Pacific,’ " he said. "Or, ‘Japanese Surrender.’ "Albright is not calmed. “Oh, baloney!” he said. “To me, that’s coming across with some smoke, some political smoke.”

http://www.indy.com/articles/metro-2/thread/word-from-world-war-sparks-a-war-of-words

lacarnut
02-23-2009, 12:39 AM
I assume that a newspaper clipping of the Atomic Bomb attack on Hiroshima would be out of the question. My dad was a linotype operator and set the type for that story in the Morning Advocate.

FlaGator
02-23-2009, 08:53 AM
I assume that a newspaper clipping of the Atomic Bomb attack on Hiroshima would be out of the question. My dad was a linotype operator and set the type for that story in the Morning Advocate.

You should write to Mr. Mattice and suggest that :D

megimoo
02-23-2009, 12:08 PM
You should write to Mr. Mattice and suggest that :D


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The man who complained had better not go to the WWII Museum in New Orleans. They have a lot of headlines using the word Japs. It was the vernacular of the day. They were our enemy. The museum also has a lot of stereotypical drawings of them, big teeth and slanty eyes. For heaven's sake, we were at war with them. They had bombed Pearl Harbor.

Incidently, I've been to D.C. and done some of those museums. The World War Two Museum in New Orleans tops them all. The times I've been there it always amazes me at how reverent everyone is who goes through there, speaking quietly, looking, being extremely respectful. No kids running around like idiots. It was quite an experience each time.

Put the blasted newspaper back up on the wall!!!!

http://boards.biography.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800011835&tstart=30&mod=1235129464011

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02-23-2009, 02:58 PM
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megimoo
02-23-2009, 03:51 PM
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gator
02-23-2009, 03:55 PM
Hide a few jews in there Gator !

No problem with Jews but I think the 1945 Japs were less brutal and a whole more honorable than the Israelis.

PoliCon
02-23-2009, 04:06 PM
How the hell is abbreviating Japanese a racial slur? Dumbasses.:rolleyes:

CueSi
02-24-2009, 09:41 PM
If they had said "Nips Quit" .. THEN that's a slur.

Jap was contemporary language for the late 1940's.

Dumbass.

~QC

AHeneen
02-25-2009, 12:57 AM
How the hell is abbreviating Japanese a racial slur? Dumbasses.:rolleyes:

Same way "Paki" is...ask Prince Harry.

Celtic Rose
02-25-2009, 09:10 AM
No problem with Jews but I think the 1945 Japs were less brutal and a whole more honorable than the Israelis.

I think the victims of the Rape of Nanking might disagree with you there.

PoliCon
02-25-2009, 09:29 AM
Same way "Paki" is...ask Prince Harry.

screw political correctness and the fools that adhere to it!

Zathras
02-25-2009, 03:27 PM
I think the victims of the Rape of Nanking might disagree with you there.

And any of the POWs that were held by Japan during the war. But that doesn't matter to Herr Gator. Rememeber, to him, Israel is the worst country to ever exist in the history of the world. When you're blinded by hatered and bigotry, claiming it's 'Moral Clarity", you tend to ignore real history.