View Full Version : Juarez VS. Baghdad

03-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Wow not even close! Shut the damn border already!
Niether are on my vacation list.

Mexico is closer (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44513)

(CNSNews.com) - Civilians ran a greater risk of being killed in the border city of Juarez, Mexico, last year than in Baghdad, Iraq.

The per capita rate of civilian killings in the Mexican border city in 2008 was nearly three-and-a-half times (3.4) as great as the per capita rate of civilian killings in the Iraqi province of Baghdad, CNSNews.com has determined, based on State Department statistics and data supplied by an Iraqi civilian-casualty database recommended by the Department of Defense.

In Ciudad Juarez, where drug cartels are fighting with Mexican authorities for control of the city, an estimated 1,800 people were killed in 2008, according to the U.S. State Department.

That equaled one in every 889 residents in a population that the State Department says 1.6 million.

Meanwhile, in the Baghdad Governorate (the Iraqi province that includes Baghdad), only about one in 3,040 people were killed in 2008, using the civilian casualty figures gatherd by the Iraq Body Count (IBC) project.

The overall number of civilians in Baghdad Governorate that were killed in 2008, according to IBC, was between 2,632 and 2,847.

But the Baghdad Governorate, with an estimated 6 to 8 million people, is almost four to five times larger in population than Ciudad Juarez, depending upon which figure is utilized.

That means people are at greater risk in Juarez than in Baghdad province.

In fact, CNSNews.com has calculated that approximately 113 per 100,000 people were killed by violence in Juarez, while in Baghdad about 33 per 100,000 civilians shared the same fate.

A reasonable analysis

03-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Time for an electrified fence.... About 480 Volts at about 100 amps oughta just about solve our problem with Mexico. I want so much juice that it hums when you approach it and you hair stands on end... But since you can't fix stupid, they'll still drone into it by the thousands every night, keeping the border townsfolk awake with the sound an industrial bug zapper...

03-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Mexico is out of our travel plans for a long time. Electrified fence and mines should solve the problem with border incursions by the Mexican Army/drug dealers.

03-06-2009, 01:17 AM
And yesterday, a prison riot in the city killed 20. BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7924815.stm)

03-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Sigh. Don't shut the boarder - control it. Put op a fence or a wall or whatever - and control it.