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megimoo
03-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Chuck Norris claims thousands of right wing cell groups exist and will rebel against U.S. government

The call by some right wing leaders for rebellion and for the military to refuse the commander in chief’s orders is joined by Chuck Norris who claims that thousands of right wing cell groups have organized and are ready for a second American Revolution. During an appearance on the Glen Beck radio show he promised that if things get any worse from his point of view he may “run for president of Texas.” The martial artist/actor/activist claims that Texas was never formally a part of the United States in the first place and that if rebellion is to come through...

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We find this very interesting, because just two weeks earlier, Washington told us we could not protest in DC for at least a year and a half. But the day the spendulus bill passes, we get a call from Washington inviting us with a choice of dates and locations. Folks, we take this as a sign that our country is starting to realize the mistake they have made with putting Obama in office.

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FeebMaster
03-10-2009, 01:48 PM
Nah. They'll just cry about it on the internet.

linda22003
03-10-2009, 01:51 PM
Let us know how the rally goes, Megi. :rolleyes:

scd1008
03-10-2009, 02:48 PM
We are ready for Revolution here.
Even if we do not come to Washington, Revolution is in the air.
Locked and Loaded here
Soon, Very soon.............................................. ..........

linda22003
03-10-2009, 03:00 PM
And just whom do you plan to "take out"?

Molon Labe
03-10-2009, 03:01 PM
Let us know how the rally goes, Megi. :rolleyes:

Hey...Chuck isn't wrong. :confused:

linda22003
03-10-2009, 03:06 PM
Oh, I understand he's God, or at least what God looks like here on earth. :D

asdf2231
03-10-2009, 03:47 PM
We are ready for Revolution here.
Even if we do not come to Washington, Revolution is in the air.
Locked and Loaded here
Soon, Very soon.............................................. ..........


Jesus H.

:rolleyes:

Someone get him a hanky to wipe off his copy of Red Dawn with when he's done.

linda22003
03-10-2009, 03:52 PM
Jesus H.

:rolleyes:

Someone get him a hanky to wipe off his copy of Red Dawn with when he's done.

Keyboard cowboys, gotta love 'em. :p

FeebMaster
03-10-2009, 05:49 PM
See what I mean?

noonwitch
03-11-2009, 08:28 AM
A protest is one thing. A rebellion is another. The last major rebellion didn't end very well for the rebels. I'd hate to see Chuck end up in prison for treason, because his protest rally turned into something much bigger.

lacarnut
03-11-2009, 10:20 AM
Let us know how the rally goes, Megi. :rolleyes:

At least they will be fully clothed unlike the fags and lesbos in DC on inaguration day plus they will not be defacing military monuments.

Rebel Yell
03-11-2009, 11:41 AM
The last major rebellion didn't end very well for the rebels.

I hate to say it, but you're right. That was the last realistic chance to change the federal government from becoming the big monolithic pile of shit it has become. It will wipe out any rebellion and rewrite the history to show the rebels as nothing more than terrorists. The only feasible rebellion today is at the voting booth. Not likely, since no decent person would want to get into government, just feasible.

noonwitch
03-11-2009, 12:02 PM
I hate to say it, but you're right. That was the last realistic chance to change the federal government from becoming the big monolithic pile of shit it has become. It will wipe out any rebellion and rewrite the history to show the rebels as nothing more than terrorists. The only feasible rebellion today is at the voting booth. Not likely, since no decent person would want to get into government, just feasible.


After the way the media treated the Bush twins and Chelsea Clinton, no parent of teens is going to want to run for president. Obama's kids are little enough that for now, at least, the media is not treating them badly. Yet.

wilbur
03-11-2009, 12:19 PM
Where were these right wing rebel groups for the past 8 years?

Sonnabend
03-11-2009, 03:04 PM
I'd hate to see Chuck end up in prison for treason, because his protest rally turned into something much bigger.

I'd say that if he is there, then Kerry should be in the cell next to him.And Hanoi Jane Fonda. And Baez.

And half the Democrats.

marinejcksn
03-11-2009, 03:20 PM
The only feasible rebellion today is at the voting booth.

Spot on.

Only a military coup d’état could rebel against the U.S. Government and realistically win. Not for nothing, but if it came to a point where armed insurrectionists from the militia movement gathered in the thousands and tried to overthrow the government the U.S. Military would slaughter them. They wouldn't stand a chance. And nobody wants massive death and destruction (except maybe the kooks and anarchists) just to chance what you don't like about the government.

Molon Labe
03-11-2009, 03:57 PM
Spot on.

Only a military coup d’état could rebel against the U.S. Government and realistically win. Not for nothing, but if it came to a point where armed insurrectionists from the militia movement gathered in the thousands and tried to overthrow the government the U.S. Military would slaughter them. They wouldn't stand a chance. And nobody wants massive death and destruction (except maybe the kooks and anarchists) just to chance what you don't like about the government.

I'm closer to Anarchist than I am Collectivist....presuming you believe that socialism and leftist ideology is several rungs away from total collectivist fascism/Communism. The way Hayak suggested. :D

Are you aware of the state legislatures introducing bills that are trying to strenghten a states 10th amendments righs? One such defiantly had language suggesting all military officers of that particular state would return to the state of residence if the federal government imposed martial law.

marinejcksn
03-11-2009, 07:51 PM
I'm closer to Anarchist than I am Collectivist....presuming you believe that socialism and leftist ideology is several rungs away from total collectivist fascism/Communism. The way Hayak suggested. :D

Are you aware of the state legislatures introducing bills that are trying to strenghten a states 10th amendments righs? One such defiantly had language suggesting all military officers of that particular state would return to the state of residence if the federal government imposed martial law.

1st. Hayak is the SH*T! I read Road to Serfdom a bunch in Iraq.

And I can kinda identify with Anarchists, or I should say Minarchists because I'm an extremely limited-government Libertarian but I do believe we need SOME level of law and order. The Founders envisioned the Federal Government to be sort of a "night watchman" and I think that's all they should be doing.

I'm excited to hear they want to strenghthen States Rights, but I hadn't heard of them trying to recall Officers in the case of Martial Law. That wouldn't fly in my book. States have a National Guard force for a reason; the moment you start putting Active Duty Military troops on the streets of this country, Thomas Jefferson's vision is truly lost. :(

megimoo
03-11-2009, 08:58 PM
I'm closer to Anarchist than I am Collectivist....presuming you believe that socialism and leftist ideology is several rungs away from total collectivist fascism/Communism. The way Hayak suggested. :D

Are you aware of the state legislatures introducing bills that are trying to strenghten a states 10th amendments righs? One such defiantly had language suggesting all military officers of that particular state would return to the state of residence if the federal government imposed martial law.
Sounds like the same state calls to it's own military leadership as just before the American civil war of 1860 !If there is to be an uprising as guaranteed by the constitution when the government fails the people the way this one is sure to some,not all, will advocate a change in government by replacing those in power .

Obama in a way is something of a prophet warning us by comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln who when he was elected caused the South to declare Independence from the Union just before he took office .

They saw his works and listened to his words and knew what he was about as we should have also !

Some states have anticipated this already with their declarations of state sovereignty and they will next establish their declarations of Independence from this disaster of governmental power by elected position .

If the call went out for federal troops to suppress an popular armed outrage the people would be butchered .The disparity between an armed populous with small arms and today's military is profound.

Most in the military,fresh from Iraq and Afghanistan ,would,after an initial period,refuse to slaughter Americans and they the Congress and the White House know this.

They are on a very dangerous course provoking the people and must believe that most are by now just sheep.

The House of Congress is totally under the control of a despotic deluded female who is beholding to a small cadre of power brokers led and financed by a cartel of International money men headed/fronted by I believe George Soros .The Senate of the Congress is headed by an equally despot who takes the orders from the same group.


To me people withholding their money from the general economy and refusing to invest in this disaster of an economy is also a good way to go in the fight against Socialism and this new radical Communistic government .

The federal government is fast failing in credibility printing money whose value is in question.If we the people refuse to participate in our own economy by delaying purchases and refusing to spend or borrow money with great confidence they lose .Goods and services are by far provided by small company's in America and if they are unable to finance their own businesses they will have to operate at a level they can afford.

The government will fight back by more restrictive laws just like the British did before the original revolution but we have the numbers and we are the ultimate consumers .We can easily remove/replace low level state bureaucrats one way or another as Mr. Jefferson so aptly points out in his writings.

megimoo
03-11-2009, 09:27 PM
1st. Hayak is the SH*T! I read Road to Serfdom a bunch in Iraq.

And I can kinda identify with Anarchists, or I should say Minarchists because I'm an extremely limited-government Libertarian but I do believe we need SOME level of law and order. The Founders envisioned the Federal Government to be sort of a "night watchman" and I think that's all they should be doing.

I'm excited to hear they want to strenghthen States Rights, but I hadn't heard of them trying to recall Officers in the case of Martial Law. That wouldn't fly in my book. States have a National Guard force for a reason; the moment you start putting Active Duty Military troops on the streets of this country, Thomas Jefferson's vision is truly lost. :(
Bush Moves Toward Martial Law

In a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law (1). It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of laws that limits the President's ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush is seeking to undo those prohibitions.

Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the commander in chief on October 17th, 2006, in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder."snip
http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/

Molon Labe
03-12-2009, 10:42 AM
I'm excited to hear they want to strenghthen States Rights, but I hadn't heard of them trying to recall Officers in the case of Martial Law. That wouldn't fly in my book. States have a National Guard force for a reason; the moment you start putting Active Duty Military troops on the streets of this country, Thomas Jefferson's vision is truly lost. :(

I'm not suggesting it would fly or that I would even be willing to do it myself...but Lee and Jackson both did this for allegiance to Virginia. If nothing else...it's and interesting set of circumstances that have set the states off to go ahead with these bold measures.

Hayak is the Shit. :cool:

Rebel Yell
03-12-2009, 10:59 AM
I'm not suggesting it would fly or that I would even be willing to do it myself...but Lee and Jackson both did this for allegiance to Virginia. If nothing else...it's and interesting set of circumstances that have set the states off to go ahead with these bold measures.

Hayak is the Shit. :cool:


I LOVE my country, but I'm a Georgian first, a Southerner second, and an American third. Sorry.

EricMartin
03-12-2009, 11:08 AM
Spot on.

Only a military coup d’état could rebel against the U.S. Government and realistically win. Not for nothing, but if it came to a point where armed insurrectionists from the militia movement gathered in the thousands and tried to overthrow the government the U.S. Military would slaughter them. They wouldn't stand a chance. And nobody wants massive death and destruction (except maybe the kooks and anarchists) just to chance what you don't like about the government.

You do, beyond a doubt, know far more than me about the U.S. military. So I'd love to hear your opinion on whether or not you think that the military would actually take up arms against large conservative movements, on behalf of Barack Obama. Aren't the majority of U.S. soldiers conservative republicans, and aren't the vast majority of them from southern states -- perhaps more than any from Texas? Isn't it realistic to believe that a considerable amount of the U.S. soldiers would actually side with Texas, should it decide to secede sometime in the future? I'm having a very hard time imagining them invading Texas, spilling the blood of Texan patriots.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

AlmostThere
03-12-2009, 12:30 PM
I'm of the feeling that Obama and friends will try to surrender America's sovereignty to U.N. control. If that is the objective and they are successful, then American 'insurrectionists' will be fighting U.N. forces not fellow Americans. Of course the U.N. forces will be former American troops. But the distinction will be that they're wearing that stupid blue helmet without an American flag on their sleeve.

People are angry and scared about the financial mess were in but I don't think that would lead to active revolt. But a wholesale give away of our sovereignty to the U.N. might be the straw. A good example is the U.N. effort right now to quash freedom of speech. I believe the day an American is arrested for exercising a right guaranteed under the Constitution, could be the opening volley.

EricMartin
03-12-2009, 12:41 PM
I'm of the feeling that Obama and friends will try to surrender America's sovereignty to U.N. control.

They're certainly working on it. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/12/lost-found-senate-moves-ratification-un-treaty/)

Excerpt:

The Senate is gearing up to ratify a Nixon-era U.N. treaty meant to create universal laws to govern the seas -- a treaty critics say will create a massive U.N. bureaucracy that could even claim powers over American waterways.

LOST -- the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, also called the Law of the Sea Treaty -- regulates all things oceanic, from fishing rights, navigation lanes and environmental concerns to what lies beneath: the seabed's oil and mineral wealth that companies hope to explore and exploit in coming years.

But critics say the treaty, which declares the sea and its bounty the "universal heritage of mankind," would redistribute American profits and have a reach extending into rivers and streams all the way up the mighty Mississippi.

marinejcksn
03-12-2009, 01:04 PM
You do, beyond a doubt, know far more than me about the U.S. military. So I'd love to hear your opinion on whether or not you think that the military would actually take up arms against large conservative movements, on behalf of Barack Obama. Aren't the majority of U.S. soldiers conservative republicans, and aren't the vast majority of them from southern states -- perhaps more than any from Texas? Isn't it realistic to believe that a considerable amount of the U.S. soldiers would actually side with Texas, should it decide to secede sometime in the future? I'm having a very hard time imagining them invading Texas, spilling the blood of Texan patriots.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Personally, I don't think that if it came to it most of us in the Military would be willing to turn arms against our fellow Americans. At least I know I wouldn't. But it would depend on the nature of the situation; if it came to a point where militias got so out of hand that the military had to be brought in to settle things down and if the militia pointed guns at US troops we'd have the right to defend ourselves. I don't know if things like hometown loyalty would come in to play, but I have to imagine they would to a point and some US servicemen would be more loyal to their state rather than Government.

It's a situation I pray never happens and I doubt ever would.

noonwitch
03-12-2009, 01:33 PM
Personally, I don't think that if it came to it most of us in the Military would be willing to turn arms against our fellow Americans. At least I know I wouldn't. But it would depend on the nature of the situation; if it came to a point where militias got so out of hand that the military had to be brought in to settle things down and if the militia pointed guns at US troops we'd have the right to defend ourselves. I don't know if things like hometown loyalty would come in to play, but I have to imagine they would to a point and some US servicemen would be more loyal to their state rather than Government.

It's a situation I pray never happens and I doubt ever would.


It would be wrong to put the military in such a position, and I hope that Chuck and the armies of conservatives who want to rebel consider this prior to taking any action beyond holding rallies and voting.

Chuck58
03-12-2009, 02:43 PM
I've said ever since Carter that this country was heading for another Civil War. I began to doubt that when Reagan was elected. I voted for Bush both times. He didn't impress me his last term and the suspicion began to return.

Now, I honestly wonder if this character sitting in the Oval Office isn't the final straw.

lacarnut
03-12-2009, 03:36 PM
I agree with Marinejcksn but the natives are getting restless. Excessive taxation, loss of rights, confiscation of guns, turning over sovereignty to the UN, re-distribution of wealth, etc. will cause the silent majority that are so apathetic now to take action.

Looks like Obama and the liberal Democraps are hell bent on doing those things. Just hoping that freight train can be stopped now or by the latest in 2010.

scd1008
03-12-2009, 06:09 PM
I am pleased to see that this topic is becoming more discussed.
Some of us have been on this page for quite awhile.
Feel free to contact myself.
scd1008@Yahoo.com

marinejcksn
03-12-2009, 07:32 PM
Looks like Obama and the liberal Democraps are hell bent on doing those things. Just hoping that freight train can be stopped now or by the latest in 2010.

Hopefully the people take action in the proper way; by tossing out the Dimmycrat Socialists who're ruining this country and declaring an all out RINO season on Murkowski, McCain and Specter.

Full-Auto
03-13-2009, 08:59 AM
Chuck is the man. If Texas and Arizona seceed from the union, I'm moving my family to Texas or Az.

Molon Labe
03-13-2009, 11:45 AM
Hopefully the people take action in the proper way; by tossing out the Dimmycrat Socialists who're ruining this country and declaring an all out RINO season on Murkowski, McCain and Specter.

Regading the talk about anarchism.....
Have you ever read any columns by Joe Sobran? He wrote this column almost a decade ago. You may or may not remember he was one of the smart ones that left National review when it started becoming a wing of the Neoconservative agenda.
I may not be completely sold on him premise, but it really strikes a nerve with me when I compare what I now believe about the almighty federal government being the real problem.

My belief: There's really no need to secede, but we should be closer to Sobran's vision than we currently are.

http://www.sobran.com/reluctant.shtml


excerpt:

My arrival (very recently) at philosophical anarchism has disturbed some of my conservative and Christian friends. In fact, it surprises me, going as it does against my own inclinations.

As a child I acquired a deep respect for authority and a horror of chaos. In my case the two things were blended by the uncertainty of my existence after my parents divorced and I bounced from one home to another for several years, often living with strangers. A stable authority was something I yearned for.

Meanwhile, my public-school education imbued me with the sort of patriotism encouraged in all children in those days. I grew up feeling that if there was one thing I could trust and rely on, it was my government. I knew it was strong and benign, even if I didn’t know much else about it. The idea that some people — Communists, for example — might want to overthrow the government filled me with horror.

G.K. Chesterton, with his usual gentle audacity, once criticized Rudyard Kipling for his “lack of patriot