“Just as Powerful, Just as Strong, Just as Well-Funded” as the U.S. Military."

[megimoo]

Obama: Start goose stepping, Storm Troopers in America .

Soon we may see Obama’s Mandatory Volunteerism Plan come to light. Sound oxymoronic doesn’t it? Mandatory Volunteer? Somehow last week both houses of congress pushed forward an expansion of the Americorps national service plan.

If you recall last year, the Obamassiah proposed a civilian national security force that’s “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military. The legislation included this language: “a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.

” In other words, start the goose stepping when they’re young, and expand the boots on the street. That’s right, Obama wants... Storm Troopers in America



http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2009/03/27/obama-start-goose-stepping/

[RushBaby]

That's freaking scary... I’d rather kill myself than be one of Obama's peons for Communism!! To hell with that, I’ll start a Pennsylvania Tea Party before that happens.

[Molon Labe]

The part of Emmanuels book that says "this is not a draft, repeat...this is not a draft". :rolleyes:

mandatory civil service + involontary servitude + basic training, civil defense preperation = Draft

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=ZUjHNefQPiUC&dq=the+plan&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=uL7Y2yWRxj&sig=4O2Jka1mIq21_TAbVyKwH1YwAQo&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA60,M1

[tacitus]

Sound familiar?



link (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERsa.htm)

In 1921 Adolf Hitler (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler.htm) formed his own private army called Sturm Abteilung (Storm Section). The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents and to protect Hitler from revenge attacks. Captain Ernst Roehm (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERroehm.htm) of the Bavarian Army played an important role in recruiting these men, and became the SA's first leader.
Hitler's stormtroopers were often former members of the Freikorps (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERfreikorps.htm) (right-wing private armies who flourished during the period that followed the First World War (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWW.htm)) and had considerable experience in using violence against their rivals.
The SA wore grey jackets, brown shirts (khaki shirts originally intended for soldiers in Africa but purchased in bulk from the German Army (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWgermanA.htm) by the Nazi Party (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERnazi.htm)), swastika armbands, ski-caps, knee-breeches, thick woolen socks and combat boots. Accompanied by bands of musicians and carrying swastika flags, they would parade through the streets of Munich. At the end of the march Hitler would make one of his passionate speeches that encouraged his supporters to carry out acts of violence against Jews and his left-wing political opponents.

[stsinner]

The part of Emmanuels book that says "this is not a draft, repeat...this is not a draft". :rolleyes:

mandatory civil service + involontary servitude + basic training, civil defense preperation = Draft

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=ZUjHNefQPiUC&dq=the+plan&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=uL7Y2yWRxj&sig=4O2Jka1mIq21_TAbVyKwH1YwAQo&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA60,M1


No, it's not the draft.. . The Draft drafted viable males into an honorable military that intends to defend the country.. This sick bastard wants to draft all viable males to protect the President and further Communism.. Much sicker, and we must stop it.. This is fascism.

[Will Dill]

"The legislation included this language: “a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.

Here's what the bill actually says:


Section 6104 of The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act requires that a commission be established to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”


I read that to mean that the only thing authorized is an investigation.

[PoliCon]

Here's what the bill actually says:


Section 6104 of The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act requires that a commission be established to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”


I read that to mean that the only thing authorized is an investigation.
which is the first step to making it happen. There is no reason to even investigate unless you are going to throw out the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

[Phillygirl]

Here's what the bill actually says:


Section 6104 of The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act requires that a commission be established to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”


I read that to mean that the only thing authorized is an investigation.

For now.

[Will Dill]

which is the first step to making it happen. There is no reason to even investigate unless you are going to throw out the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Where do those document prohibit the government from investigating the question?

[PoliCon]

Where do those document prohibit the government from investigating the question?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[Will Dill]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Where do those words prohibit the government from investigating the question at issue?

[PoliCon]

Get out your copy of the bill of rights and read number 10. It is prohibited there.

[CorwinK]

The question of whether or not the government can or cannot investigate a question isnt the issue. The fact is that time and time again, as played out through history (im not going to cite...go do some research and educate yourself for the betterment of the whole please) when governments begin playing around with this sort of thing, the possibility for oppression of the people jumps exponentially. Given the governments track record every time they stick their fingers into things...do you really want to give them the opportunity to mess with something of this magnitude?? I personally dont, and I would like to know what delegate in congress seems to think that the people they represent would think this is a good idea??

[AlmostThere]

Mandatory service requirement for all able young people that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

The 10th says Congress only has the rights it's been explicitly given. Where is Congress given the right to require mandatory service so that all in involuntary servitude can sing Kumbaya? If they don't have the right, which they DON'T, what is there to investigate? I would encourage my kids to refuse and I'll hock the family homestead to fight it in court if need be.

[CorwinK]

Dont stop with the courthouses. If something like this manages to get passed in the first place the courts are not going to be much help anyway. If, (and I stress If because some dwindling part of me still has faith in the American people to thwart such an effort), something like this comes to pass I hope that those of us who are in the 'I told you so' position have stocked up on weapons and ammunition because it will come to that should such lunacy get approved.

hope for the best, plan for the worst, and for gods sake dont get caught with your pants around your ankles.

[Will Dill]

Get out your copy of the bill of rights and read number 10. It is prohibited there.
I don't think so.

[Will Dill]

The question of whether or not the government can or cannot investigate a question isnt the issue. That is exactly the issue.


The fact is that time and time again, as played out through history (im not going to cite...go do some research and educate yourself for the betterment of the whole please) when governments begin playing around with this sort of thing, the possibility for oppression of the people jumps exponentially.
Gives us some examples.


Given the governments track record every time they stick their fingers into things
What track record?


...do you really want to give them the opportunity to mess with something of this magnitude?
I have an open mind on the matter.

[Will Dill]

The 10th says Congress only has the rights it's been explicitly given.

That's not what it says.


Where is Congress given the right to require mandatory service

The Constitution grants Congress power to provide for the general Welfare of the United States.

[VWkid06]

before the election i had an interestinjg conversation with a nurse who was a cuban immigrant. she told me how when castro came to power he promised change. shortly after he instituted a neighbothood watch program, a house on every block. they were actually spies for him. she warned me this was coming...i didn't want to believe it...

[PoliCon]

I don't think.Fixored it for you. :rolleyes:

[djones520]

Has their been any mention of this since that one time he spoke of his last year?