PDA

View Full Version : Has anyone heard anything about this?



thebeatingpulse
04-01-2009, 12:14 AM
Ok my Grandpa told me today, that when he was a church last night one of the members got in front of the church and asked for prayer for the military, because Obama's crew is firing all the christian chaplains. Now this member is a high ranking officer in the national guard, he is currently stationed at fort hood in Killeen Tx. Now like I said I dont know if this is actually happening or if they are just in talks about it, but my Grandpa is very worried. I am very worried, we really need to find the truth to this, it is very scary. I am thinking about trying to call Hannity or Rush about this but I cant find actual rock hard evidence yet so I am afraid it may be shoved away. What do you guys think, and have you heard anything about this or close to it?

Sonnabend
04-01-2009, 04:55 AM
If this was happening it would be large scale news, and would have been reported long before this.

My guess is that it's rumour.

There is a chaplaincy corps in the Army , and it has a long tradition and history..anything like this would be all over the military news...I cant find anything even even remotely like this.

linda22003
04-01-2009, 08:05 AM
Part of my job is to cover developments and changes all across DoD, and I see a lot of .mil publications the general public does not. I think I would have heard something about this, and I have not.

Gingersnap
04-01-2009, 09:48 AM
I think there have been a few dust-ups over Christian chaplains saying general purpose prayers in the name of Jesus Christ when they were supposed to go with the more generic "God" or "Lord" under certain circumstances. That's it, though.

Odysseus
04-01-2009, 10:21 AM
Ok my Grandpa told me today, that when he was a church last night one of the members got in front of the church and asked for prayer for the military, because Obama's crew is firing all the christian chaplains. Now this member is a high ranking officer in the national guard, he is currently stationed at fort hood in Killeen Tx. Now like I said I dont know if this is actually happening or if they are just in talks about it, but my Grandpa is very worried. I am very worried, we really need to find the truth to this, it is very scary. I am thinking about trying to call Hannity or Rush about this but I cant find actual rock hard evidence yet so I am afraid it may be shoved away. What do you guys think, and have you heard anything about this or close to it?

I'm at FT Hood and I haven't heard anything about this. I'll keep my ears open, but my gut feeling is that it's just a wild rumor, although with this administration, anything's possible.

linda22003
04-01-2009, 10:23 AM
It's also possible that with this administration, people are more willing to believe wild rumors. :o

FlaGator
04-01-2009, 10:28 AM
It's also possible that with this administration, people are more willing to believe wild rumors. :o

With any administration the opposing side will always believe the worse.

linda22003
04-01-2009, 10:29 AM
That's exactly right, the DUmmies believed nutsy things during the last administration. It behooves us to check things out. :)

linda22003
04-01-2009, 10:33 AM
Also remember what happens when we "play telephone"... pass a message along through several people. The OP heard it from Grandpa, who heard it from someone else. ...

thebeatingpulse
04-01-2009, 10:34 AM
Yeah, like I said I cant find anything either, I want to believe my Grandpa he is a smart man not easily fooled, he was a doctor, any way I just dont understand why a higher ranking officer would get up and say that in church. I mean I wasnt there so that is why I asked, I am not trying to start a conspiracy, I hate those sites that make you think everything is a conspiracy, I cant live that way. Anyway why lie in church that is my biggest concern, it has been done dont get me wrong, but what will it accomplish. Anyway I just wanted to try to verify it, cause I couldnt find hard evidence either. I did find the info about the generic prayers, and dont say in the name of Jesus, but that was 2005 and the Bush years, along with a more republican congress, so it makes me wonder, who is actually in charge, but I dont think of any of this being a conspiracy. Basically cause I posted this I dont want to get labeled one of those conspiracy guys that ya'll always talk bad about lol. Well I will keep my ear to the ground to and update you if I hear more. Thanks for the info.

linda22003
04-01-2009, 10:38 AM
I'm sure we're not casting any aspersions on your grandfather or on the speaker at church. It's always a good idea to check things out independently.

thebeatingpulse
04-01-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm sure we're not casting any aspersions on your grandfather or on the speaker at church. It's always a good idea to check things out independently.

Yes that is a great point and like I said thankyou again. I asked this humbly so that it didnt look like I believed it after one of my best friends started going on about thermite and 9/11 I learned quickly no. 1 he is a nut, no. 2 go out and search for info yourself. Anyway thanks again

Odysseus
04-01-2009, 11:50 AM
... I did find the info about the generic prayers, and dont say in the name of Jesus, but that was 2005 and the Bush years, along with a more republican congress, so it makes me wonder, who is actually in charge, but I dont think of any of this being a conspiracy. Basically cause I posted this I dont want to get labeled one of those conspiracy guys that ya'll always talk bad about lol. Well I will keep my ear to the ground to and update you if I hear more. Thanks for the info.

The generic prayer thing only applied to unit activities of a secular nature. Chaplains weren't supposed to invoke specific religious affiliations when they did the invocations at events like Change of Command or Deployment ceremonies, because you have Soldiers from every religion in the ranks. There was no restriction on how they conducted their own services for their denominations (although, obviously, a chaplain as to be able to conduct services for a number of different denominations, or even religions, since there aren't enough rabbis, priests or other low-density specialties to be everywhere).