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Carol
06-30-2008, 10:55 PM
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blueinindiana (431 posts) Mon Jun-30-08 10:02 PM
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DO NOT make McCain a "victim"
Advertisements [?]While agree with Wes Clark on what but all it does is make John McCain into a victim and that is not a way to defeat him in November.

Obama just needs to continue to paint McCain with Bush day in and day out and continue to register new voters and make sure they get to vote and also fight back when smeared.

People who actually believe those crummy e-mails about him would not vote for Obama anyways they are just using that as excuse not vote for him most are just racists and the emails are just an excuse used as a cover.

redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-30-08 10:23 PM
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2. Exactly. I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about this at all.
McCain has already made himself a victim. Have you seen his biography ads...like all one million of them. Each one has teh footage of him laying on a cot, camera in his face, look of distress, arm jacked up, with him describing the pain and torture of being a POW...like he is Jesus on the cross fer christsakes. He has turned this into an issue. Obama has already lifted him up on a pedestal with the rest of the media as a "war hero", but now McCain is trying to take it one. step. further. He now wants to run on his POW status as making him MORE qualified to be POTUS. Once he did that, whether or not that assumption is true became fair game. I'm damn proud of Wes Clark.

Obama cannot cede that point to McCain. If he does, McCain WINS. What about that is unclear? People NEED to be told that being a POW does not qualify one to be president alone. People need to be told to look beneath the surface of symbols and look at the ideas behind those symbols and whether the person actually lives up to them. People need to be told that it is OKAY to NOT vote for McCain despite him being a POW because being a POW does not make one qualified. People need to be told to look at the candidate's ideas.

If this becomes a contest between the POW war hero who is automatically presumed to be qualified for POTUS based on that alone and the new kid on the block with less than one term as senator who ALSO agrees that being a POW makes one automatically qualified to become president, um, Obama WILL lose this baby. You guys are giving the American public too much credit. Gosh, they sure had a different view of this when Kerry was the Democrat nominee.

And you know, I haven't heard of a SINGLE conservative or Republican who has said that McCain is qualified based only on his service record. I have heard LOTS of liberals say that McCain is not qualified by that and insinuate that Republicans do say that he is qualified based only on htat record.

It's kind of cute...all the work they are going to, to sing to the choir on that one. It's also kind of funny.

They have multiple thread going over there about this.

movie buff
07-01-2008, 07:05 AM
So, blueinindiana slings around the old accusation that anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is automatically a racist. Not surprising. If McCain wins, I have a feeling we'll be hearing those accusations multiplied a millionfold.
Then, redstate talks about how people need to look beyond the symbols to see what ideas are behind them, yet they will happily join in the Obamunists' cultlike chanting of 'Hope and change, hope and change, hope and change,' without even once stopping to check out the ideas Obama has behind those symbols.

asdf2231
07-01-2008, 09:22 AM
So, blueinindiana slings around the old accusation that anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is automatically a racist. Not surprising. If McCain wins, I have a feeling we'll be hearing those accusations multiplied a millionfold.
Then, redstate talks about how people need to look beyond the symbols to see what ideas are behind them, yet they will happily join in the Obamunists' cultlike chanting of 'Hope and change, hope and change, hope and change,' without even once stopping to check out the ideas Obama has behind those symbols.


The Democrat party now has an enormous shield shaped like a black man that they can hide behind and use to deflect valid criticism with.

Pretty nifty for them since they are the party of victimhood.

MrsSmith
07-01-2008, 09:55 PM
The Democrat party now has an enormous shield shaped like a black man that they can hide behind and use to deflect valid criticism with.

Pretty nifty for them since they are the party of victimhood.

But you've got to wonder how voting FOR a race makes them less racist. :rolleyes:

Elspeth
07-02-2008, 06:16 AM
But you've got to wonder how voting FOR a race makes them less racist. :rolleyes:


Oh, stop being clever!:D They'll never get it over there. You know that.

Remember: Only whites can be racist because they control the power structure. Blacks supporting a black candidate isn't racism: it's fighting racism. Get it?:rolleyes:

:eek:

MrsSmith
07-02-2008, 10:53 PM
Oh, stop being clever!:D They'll never get it over there. You know that.

Remember: Only whites can be racist because they control the power structure. Blacks supporting a black candidate isn't racism: it's fighting racism. Get it?:rolleyes:

:eek:

{insert roll-on-the-floor-laughing smilie}

Elspeth
07-03-2008, 12:00 AM
{insert roll-on-the-floor-laughing smilie}

We NEED one of those here.

(Just sayin....)