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Apocalypse
05-19-2009, 12:51 AM
Obama plans new fuel limit by 2016




President Barack Obama will announce plans on Tuesday for a national fuel-economy (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21828.html) and greenhouse-gas standard for automobiles in an effort to give more certainty to car companies (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22506.html) as they struggle for survival.

The plan marks the first time there has been a nationwide standard for emissions of greenhouse gasses, and it will require an average mileage standard of 39 miles per gallon for cars and 30 mpg for trucks by 2016.


Read more: "Obama plans new fuel limit by 2016 - Mike Allen and Eamon Javers - POLITICO.com" - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22650.html#ixzz0FvOzqiUi&A (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22650.html#ixzz0FvOzqiUi&A)


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Kiss US car industry good bye.

AlmostThere
05-19-2009, 12:52 PM
No, we'll have a car industry. Too many union jobs there to lose the industry. Of course the auto manufacturers won't be able to do this without the industry being nationalized. Zero can now claim he has to take over the auto industry to protect American families, read unions, and the environment. And like today, there will be people on the East Lawn applauding him. We are going to get exactly what we deserve.

noonwitch
05-19-2009, 01:35 PM
Standards have needed to change for a while-the industry thinks that it will cut into their competitiveness, but middle-class car buyers like me, who buy a new car every 5-7 years, have been wanting more fuel economy for a while. That's why so many buy Toyotas.


Ford is sending me a lot of promotional literature, lately, even though I'm not buying a new car until my 05 Focus is paid for (a year from now). They are close to that standard on their cars. My aging Focus still gets 35 mpg on the highway. The literature informed me that the new Fusion gets good mileage (I don't remember the exact number, but it was over 30 highway), and they make a hybrid version of it, too. Mustangs get good mileage, but they are very impractical for anyone who lives somewhere with winter-no front wheel drive.

But Ford made good moves a few years back that has put them ahead of the other two american car makers. They hired Mullaley, for one thing, who was from outside the auto world and came in with new ideas. They didn't wait for a bailout to come.


Incidentally, this is why Pelosi ditched Dingell on the auto comittee and put Waxman on it instead. I support higher standards on mileage and all, but it was wrong to treat the longest-serving member of her own party in such a manner. Moderate dems are going to stand by and watch her fall over her lies about whether the Bush administration told her about the use of torture on prisoners.

AlmostThere
05-19-2009, 01:55 PM
Mustangs get good mileage, but they are very impractical for anyone who lives somewhere with winter-no front wheel drive.

Best car I ever drove in snow was an old VW bug. I commuted from Frederick, MD to D.C. for a couple years. That was about 100 miles a day. I don't recall missing a day because my little bug couldn't plow through the snow. Of course it was in super fine condition. :rolleyes: I paid $100 for it and had to stick in a new clutch.

Apocalypse
05-19-2009, 04:28 PM
But part of the problem comes in with the 30 MPG on trucks. Trucks with those standards have limited pulling power.