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biccat
07-03-2008, 05:35 PM
Sharia law SHOULD be used in Britain, says UK's top judge

Explosive: The Lord Chief Justice's endorsement of Sharia law has already created huge controversy

The most senior judge in England tonight gave his blessing to the use of sharia law to resolve disputes among Muslims.

Lord Chief Justice Lord Phillips said that Islamic legal principles could be employed to deal with family and marital arguments and to regulate finance.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031611/Sharia-law-SHOULD-used-Britain-says-UKs-judge.html

SarasotaRepub
07-03-2008, 05:41 PM
I was just going to post this. :D

Still want to sell em the F-22 Gator???:p:D

Man oh man, WTF is up with this camel crap???

NavySquid
07-03-2008, 07:26 PM
I gotta get with my Scottish buddies and find out what they think on this one ... the sh_t coming out of the UK lately is nothing short of bizarre.

Doc Savage
07-03-2008, 08:41 PM
Unless it is the speedy execution part. Nothing at all wrong with all the appeals, just get them over in 6 months or so, then "ganfo the garthok (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106598/quotes)"

Gingersnap
07-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Right, a country should actively embrace laws which demean and disenfranchise women. The appeal to Orthodox Jewish law is absurd. Women are real people in Jewish law, not half-men as it is under Islam.

SaintLouieWoman
07-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Right, a country should actively embrace laws which demean and disenfranchise women. The appeal to Orthodox Jewish law is absurd. Women are real people in Jewish law, not half-men as it is under Islam.

I'm in total agreement. That judge is as offbase as our Supreme Court in some of their recent decisions, like the Gitmo ruling.

MrsSmith
07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
Islam: Governing Under Sharia
Author: Sharon Otterman


March 14, 2005

>>>snip


For which crimes does the Quran mandate specific punishments?
Five crimes known as the Hadd offenses, Lombardi says. Because these offenses are mentioned in the Quran, committing them is considered an affront to God. They are:

Wine-drinking and, by extension, alcohol-drinking, punishable by flogging
Unlawful sexual intercourse, punishable by flogging for unmarried offenders and stoning to death for adulterers
False accusation of unlawful sexual intercourse, punishable by flogging
Theft, punishable by the amputation of a hand
Highway robbery, punishable by amputation, or execution if the crime results in a homicide.

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What happens in the case of apostasy?
The traditional punishment for Islamic apostasy--leaving Islam for another religion or otherwise abandoning the Islamic faith--is death

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What are the traditional sharia laws governing personal status issues?
Marriage: Islamic marriage is a contract between a man and a woman. In the broadest of terms, the husband pledges to support his wife in exchange for her obedience, Brown says. Women can demand certain rights by writing them into the marriage contract, but the man is the head of the family, and traditionally, a wife may not act against her husband's wishes. (The Quran permits men to use physical force against disobedient wives in some circumstances, Powers says.) >>>

Divorce: Under sharia, the husband has the unilateral right to divorce his wife without cause. He can accomplish this by uttering the phrase "I divorce you" three times over the course of three months. If he does divorce her, he must pay her a sum of money agreed to before the wedding in the marriage contract and permit her to keep her dowry, Powers says. Classicalsharia lays out very limited conditions under which a woman can divorce a man-->>>

Polygamy: The Quran gives men the right to have up to four wives. There are some traditional limitations: a man must treat all co-wives equitably, provide them with separate dwellings, and acknowledge in a marriage contract his other spouses, if any. A woman cannot forbid the practice, but can insist on a divorce if her husband takes a second wife.>>>

Custody: In a divorce, the children traditionally belong to the father, but the mother has the right to care for them while they are young, Powers says. The age at which a mother loses custody differs from nation to nation. In Iran, the mother's custody ends at seven for boys and girls>>>

Inheritance: Mothers, wives, and daughters are guaranteed an inheritance in the case of a man's death. In the seventh century A.D., when the law was developed, this was a major step forward for women, Powers says. However, sharia also dictates that men inherit twice the share of women>>>

LINK (http://www.cfr.org/publication/8034/)


I can't wait until our copy-cat judges start this crap.

SaintLouieWoman
07-03-2008, 10:55 PM
I can't wait until our copy-cat judges start this crap.

Wait til they start stoning women on the streets of London or when they set up a chopping block for the public hand removal. :rolleyes:

FlaGator
07-04-2008, 01:21 AM
So now they'll need three sets of laws. The laws for the British, the laws for the Muslims and a new set of laws to define who's laws get used when there are issues between the British and the Muslims.

ConJinx
07-07-2008, 09:24 AM
Who's next to fall to the inhuman laws of sharia, France, Norway, Sweden. Reminds me of that seen from Braveheart, when Longshanks said "the trouble with Scotland is there are to many Scots.....we'll breed them out."

Odysseus
07-07-2008, 09:42 AM
So now they'll need three sets of laws. The laws for the British, the laws for the Muslims and a new set of laws to define who's laws get used when there are issues between the British and the Muslims.

No, conflicts between Moslems and Brits will invariably be decided in favor of the Moslems. That's how Sharia works, and anything else would be insensitive.

ConJinx
07-07-2008, 09:49 AM
Apparently Brits haven't learned a damn thing, placating tyranny never ends well. This PC crap will doom us all.

biccat
07-07-2008, 11:13 AM
No, conflicts between Moslems and Brits will invariably be decided in favor of the Moslems. That's how Sharia works, and anything else would be insensitive.
Only for the next couple of years. Then once Muslims take over the Houses of Lords and Commons Sharia law will govern all cases.

Odysseus
07-08-2008, 12:52 AM
Only for the next couple of years. Then once Muslims take over the Houses of Lords and Commons Sharia law will govern all cases.

No, the beauty of how the Moslem plan works is that they don't have to take over Parliament. Let's say that Britain does institute Sharia law for disputes within the Moslem community. Now, every Moslem in Britain is subject to Sharia law, even if they are moderates who immigrated to Britain to get away from that in the first place. If a British Moslem refuses to knuckle under, then he can be accused of apostasy, which puts him in far greater danger than if he submits. This expands the powers of the imams over people who want nothing to do with them.

Sharia law must be enforced, so there must be Islamic police to enforce it. The creation of a separate police force to impose the edicts of separate courts will mean that Moslem neighborhoods will become self-governing enclaves in which non-Moslems will gradually assume Dhimmi status. Imagine the difficulty of finding and prosecuting a Moslem who commits an offense against a non-Moslem within one of those enclaves. Very quickly, those areas will become far too dangerous for any but the faithful. Those who can afford to move, will, those who can't will either convert or be subjugated. After a few years, the Moslem minority will hold absolute power within major chunks of Britain's cities, even if they amount to less than 20% of the population. Then, it's just a matter of time before the uneven birth rates produce Moslem majorities thoughout the country. It may take a few generations, but eventually, Britain will just be another part of Eurabia.