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gator
07-03-2008, 07:54 PM
I am thinking of running for President. For the purpose of this fantasy letís assume I would sweep in a supportive Congress on my coattails.

Here is my platform:

1. Complete the mission in Iraq.

2. Thereafter extract ourselves from international political and military entanglements, especially in the Middle East. This includes supporting Israel.

3. Close down many of the foreign located US military bases such as South Korea and Europe.

4. Station American troops on the Southern US border with orders to stop the illegal invasion by all mean necessary.

5. It would be my intention to disband the ATF. However, before doing that I would have them go after the confiscation of illegal firearms with the Black and Mexican gangs in LA and other big cities. Letís see if those fuckers have the guts to take on the tough street gangs like they had the guts to go after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

6. I would get Congress to pass a law forbidding the use of any government funds to a state or city that provides government payments to any illegal. I would also withhold funds from sanctuary cities.

7. Under existing law I would arrest thousands of employers of illegals along with hundred of thousands if not millions of illegals.

8. I would not sign any bill that had one ear mark or pork in it.

9. I would decrease Federal spending by 10% the first year and 15% each year thereafter.

10. For every dollar reduced I would return half to the people in the form of tax breaks and one half to be used for debt reduction.

11. I would get Congress to repeal the part of Davis Bacon requiring that the Federal government pay union wages.

12. Implement the findings of the Moorer Independent study to properly investigate the USS Liberty incident and to hold Israel accountable. Also properly honor the crewmembers of the Liberty.

13. Reduce all foreign aid except in the case of a natural disaster.

14. Require that the United Nations find a world headquarters elsewhere while reducing our contributions to minimal amounts.

15. Repeal the NFA laws.

16. I would substantially reduce government spending but increase it in the area of veteran benefits.

17. Immediately order the NRC to license the new construction and operation of up to 600 new nuclear power plants.

18. Open up drilling wherever there is oil.

19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. Establish a National Confederate War memorial and make Robert E. Leeís birthday a National Holliday.

I may think of other things later.

Feel free to comment on my platform or do up your own if you want to add your convictions.

Shannon
07-03-2008, 07:59 PM
19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. Establish a National Confederate War memorial and make Robert E. Leeís birthday a National Holiday.




I love it!:D

newshutr
07-04-2008, 07:20 AM
19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. Establish a National Confederate War memorial and make Robert E. Lee’s birthday a National Holliday.



If Gator is elected, I'm leaving the country and going to Israel..

John
07-04-2008, 08:58 AM
I am thinking of running for President. For the purpose of this fantasy letís assume I would sweep in a supportive Congress on my coattails.

Here is my platform

1. Complete the mission in Iraq.


Good idea. We started it, we should finish it. However, there is a big problem with this. Basically, our mission is complete when the Iraqi government is confident and comfortable enough to take on the responsibilities of governing a nation. That means, our mission is not complete until the political bodies of Iraq say so. Therefore the government and people of Iraq are currently in control of several billion U.S. taxpayer dollars per year. Ergo, our mission may never be complete. Back this up with a hard line, but reasonable, withdrawal time line. Basically tell the fledgling Iraqi government that they had better get their act together by such and such a date, or such and such a dollar value, or face being ripped apart by the buzzards of tribalism. Basically, even when it comes to defense, the taxpayers of a democracy must have the ultimate say in how their taxed labor is spent.



3. Close down many of the foreign located US military bases such as South Korea and Europe. Doing this will make

Doing so would greatly increase the success of #10. It would save the U.S. government about half to a quarter trillion a year. This would free up wealth to be used to repay the debt, support our veterans, and return the fruit of labor to the taxpayer who is entitled to it.



4. Station American troops on the Southern US border with orders to stop the illegal invasion by all mean necessary.

Actually, the implementation of #6 would make this step useless. Illegals don't come here for the scenery, weather or food. They come for the job opportunities and tax funded freebies. Eliminating those incentives would insure a rapid reduction and subsequent withdrawal of the illegal invasion. No education, no health care, no cash assistance, no food stamps, and no work for pay would have these illegals heading for anywhere but here.




5. It would be my intention to disband the ATF. However, before doing that I would have them go after the confiscation of illegal firearms with the Black and Mexican gangs in LA and other big cities. Letís see if those fuckers have the guts to take on the tough street gangs like they had the guts to go after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

While I applaud the notion, and would happily dance on the grave of the BATFE, there's a deeper issue, that drills down into the roots of why the BATFE is here in the first place. It's the war on drugs. Withdrawal that nonsense. Allow the states to regulate all drugs, including alcohol, then grant the federal government a supervisory role over interstate commerce of these commodities. Within a few years time corporations will have put the 'tough street gangs' out of business and will have made them obsolete.

The FBI, Coast Guard, and BATFE will no longer need to worry about the drug bullshit, and will have the resources freed up to peruse more pressing issues.

You see, gangs of today couldn't even subsist on the cash cows of their predecessors. Existing on prostitution, gambling, extortion and whatnot will leave the street gangs of today broke, confused and way out of their element. With legal and legit competition in the trafficking (bootlegging) market these street gangs will lose their backers, those who are making billions of dollars, to the likes of Phillip Morris and R.J. Reynolds. Instead of turf wars we will have mergers, buyouts and acquisitions. Without their south American backers, who will now be dealing with regulated and legitimate corporations, these 'tough street gangs' will go the way of the Mafia. They might still be a player, but they will no longer wield the power they once held. The free market will have usurped their usefulness.



7. Under existing law I would arrest thousands of employers of illegals along with hundred of thousands if not millions of illegals.


Make it a criminal,not a civil offense, and you'll see my response to number 4 becoming a reality before you know it. Business may make the decision that fines are cheaper than increased labor costs....but no business CEO is going to take jail time over a slight cut to profit margins.



8. I would not sign any bill that had one ear mark or pork in it.


I would not sign any bill that spent taxpayer money, which is inherently exhorted, for any reason unless that reason included a summary of the reasoning of congress. That is actually a very important part of the allocation process that is often overlooked. Is congress allocating this money as if it were their own?

There's an old story about Davy Crockett's tenure in the House, that is fairly accurate. You should google the story. However, the simple fact of the matter is that congress should have to prove, with each and every spending measure, that it has the authority to allocate "The People's" money in the way expressed in the bill. Actually, what it all comes down to is that Congress has to stop looking at money as if it were "government money". There's no such thing as "government money". Every dollar, every dime, that's written off in an expenditure report has to come from someone. Sure the government can borrow from the Fed, but not indefinitely. Someone has to labor to earn the value of the money to pay it back at some point in time. It's not "free"!

To further break that down, I'd like to point out that those who labor to provide the value behind "government money", expend their mortal time to do so. Time cannot be given back, time is a finite resource that every human soul on this earth holds dear. Each person only has so much time, so the government of a nation would do well to consider the cost in time of labor for each and every expenditure they commit to.

Obama's own fight against world poverty bullshit wastes the mortal time it takes to produce 0.7% of our GNP. That's a whole of lot of man hours, and those man hours belong solely to the man who is expending them unless there's a damn good lawful reason otherwise.




9. I would decrease Federal spending by 10% the first year and 15% each year thereafter.


Oh, come on! You've already done a hell of a lot more than that! If you've closed down bases in Europe and the Pacific Rim, than you've already reduced spending by 10%. Further reduce our worldwide "deployed military" footprint, while at the same time eliminating socialist welfare programs and we would be expecting a reduction of 25-40% in federal "government money".



10. For every dollar reduced I would return half to the people in the form of tax breaks and one half to be used for debt reduction.


Excellent! Pay off the moneylenders, and then ensure that the value of American currency will never again be based on the practices of private, non-elected, individuals who happen to be in business for profit. Restore the responsibility of coining money to the Congress of the United States. This will ensure that a privately held, extremely secretive, organization of money lenders can no longer stretch and weaken the dollars earned and saved by American workers to benefit their money lending market strategies. Well, in all actuality elected officials could do this, but it would cost them dearly the next election cycle. A repercussion our friend Bernake doesn't have to face.



11. I would get Congress to repeal the part of Davis Bacon requiring that the Federal government pay union wages.


I would fight for an end to all federal labor restriction laws. States are perfectly capable of mandating the basics, and would be far more likely to view labor as a market than anything else.

Labor is a market, in areas where labor is scarce, labor should be expensive. In areas where labor is abundant labor should be cheap. However, as labor is a market, and a rather geographical one at that, I would respect the labor market enough to let it take care of itself as supply and demand intend.



16. I would substantially reduce government spending but increase it in the area of veteran benefits.


No need to increase veteran's business. Just keep the promises this nation made to those who fought for her. Veterans, myself included, made a deal. An honest days work for an honest day's pay so to speak. This nation doesn't have to go out of it's way to bend over backwards for us, but it does have to deliver on the promises it made. America has to keep it's promises with regard to her veterans, but she doesn't have to spend taxpayers hard earned dollars to go above and beyond. This veteran would rather like it if those taxpayers kept their excess money for their own uses. After all, that's the reason I'm a veteran in the first place.



17. Immediately order the NRC to license the new construction and operation of up to 600 new nuclear power plants.


Eff that! Why 600? Why not, "as many as the market will bear and investors will produce." Licensing any and all comers who meet or exceed standardized criteria is a given, but quantify it? Let the scarcity of the market of energy meet the demand, while keeping the safety of the public in mind with the standardized criteria for engineering and all.

John
07-04-2008, 09:13 AM
I've been CHAR limited:!!!




18. Open up drilling wherever there is oil.


While I agree, that is ultimately up to the congress. Respect the checks and balances and let the representatives of the people do the right thing or lose their jobs. To the people of the U.S., represented in congress, drilling offshore or in the Artic is one thing, but drilling in the heart of Yellowstone, the Redwood Forrest or the Grand Canyon is another. With the exception of offshore Corpus Christi, I don't want drilling in the places I take my kids on vacation. The Congress should be stripped of their stupid pills and punched in the face with accountability, and then asked to answer these questions. That's what they are supposed to be there for. They aren't supposed to be stupid old bloated popularity contest rejects. They are supposed to be policymakers making policies that benefit Americans!



19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. Establish a National Confederate War memorial and make Robert E. Leeís birthday a National Holliday.


All else aside, when one looks at the Civil War from a Libertarian perspective, you are exactly right. Now, once one realizes that every single letter n the Constitution & Bill of Rights came from a Libertarian then one is only left to conclude that to believe in America is to believe in Libertarianism. (Even the federalists are more closely aligned with Libertarian ideals that anything else, and the federalists didn't win the argument).

If the republican party, the party of Abe Lincoln, is to reconcile these differences between ideology and history, then we have to make a crucial first step. That first step is to straight up dump the 'religious right' rhetoric and the 'values voters' nonsense. No good is going to come of these platforms and quite frankly American voters are sick of hearing about them. The Values/Religious voters may as well just be another special interest group lobbying for position as far as common voters are concerned. As a matter of fact, Green Peace, MoveOn and the SierraClub are often seen as more tolerable and less obstructive and obnoxious. Personally, I'm not a republican because I don't want gays to marry. I'm not a republican because I want to make abortion illegal, prayer legal or mandatory, or any other nonsense social reason. I'm a republican because I want to provide for and support my family as best I see fit without someone second guessing or questioning me. My philosiphy of "I'm a republican because I want to be left the hell alone" goes starkly and directly against the "values voters" philosiphy of "I'm a republican because I want to feel secure in the world in which I live and I have to know that things are the same everywhere" philosiphy. If these sorts of platforms were aired outside of "inside party" politics, than most of you would come to realize that the Libertarian-Republican social, economic and legislative views would be well received by the voters.

Regardless of what you might hear in political commentary and opinion that passes as "news" these days, the average American voter still wants to live the American Dream. They want to be left alone to do for their family as they see fit....no matter how they define their family. They want to do the best they can in an honest and law abiding manner.....so long as the laws aren't over oppressive and overbearing enough to interfere with the "be left alone" part. Americans still want an honest days pay for an honest days work without someone of a "higher power" divvying it up among those who this "higher power" considers more deserving. Americans want to keep what they earn and earn what they keep. Unfortunately, this goes against the current political philosiphy of both the left and the right this election.

gator
07-04-2008, 10:37 AM
If Gator is elected, I'm leaving the country and going to Israel..

Good. Remember that I will hold Israel responsible for the spying and attack on America, which will involve military retaliation on our part. Israel will not get one more dime or one more spare part or anything else from us. I will not be paying off Israel's enemies to leave it alone. I will join the rest of the world in declaring it a terrorist state freezing their assets in the US and not allowing Israelis to come into the country.

I suspect when I do all that there will be some serious payback from all these people that the Israelis have been treating like shit for all these years. Maybe you will be forced to join the IDF to defend the homeland. Have fun.

gator
07-04-2008, 10:44 AM
Good idea. We started it, we should finish it. However, there is a big problem with this. Basically, our mission is complete when the Iraqi government is confident and comfortable enough to take on the responsibilities of governing a nation. That means, our mission is not complete until the political bodies of Iraq say so. Therefore the government and people of Iraq are currently in control of several billion U.S. taxpayer dollars per year. Ergo, our mission may never be complete. Back this up with a hard line, but reasonable, withdrawal time line. Basically tell the fledgling Iraqi government that they had better get their act together by such and such a date, or such and such a dollar value, or face being ripped apart by the buzzards of tribalism. Basically, even when it comes to defense, the taxpayers of a democracy must have the ultimate say in how their taxed labor is spent.





I think that with my plan to get out of the business of supporting Israel and stop giving weapon systems to the Saudis and everybody else over there we can walk away from Iraq from a position of strength.

When we aren't intervening in Middle East politics anymore we don't have to worry about the details all that much.

JB
07-04-2008, 04:29 PM
19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. I'm sorry you got your asses kicked. Needed to be done.

I'll be glad to toss a few bucks your way. I always figured you Southern boys wanted a handout. Guess you're no different than any other "oppressed" group in this country. Just don't spend the money on roadkill, cornmeal and okra.

megimoo
07-04-2008, 04:34 PM
I'm sorry you got your asses kicked. Needed to be done.

I'll be glad to toss a few bucks your way. I always figured you Southern boys wanted a handout. Guess you're no different than any other "oppressed" group in this country. Just don't spend the money on roadkill, cornmeal and okra.
Get in line !:D

Odysseus
07-18-2008, 01:56 PM
Good. Remember that I will hold Israel responsible for the spying and attack on America, which will involve military retaliation on our part. Israel will not get one more dime or one more spare part or anything else from us. I will not be paying off Israel's enemies to leave it alone. I will join the rest of the world in declaring it a terrorist state freezing their assets in the US and not allowing Israelis to come into the country.

I suspect when I do all that there will be some serious payback from all these people that the Israelis have been treating like shit for all these years. Maybe you will be forced to join the IDF to defend the homeland. Have fun.

So, you will attack our ally and reward our enemies. Got it. Shall I sew a yellow star of David onto my uniforms now or just wait until you open up the first camps?


I think that with my plan to get out of the business of supporting Israel and stop giving weapon systems to the Saudis and everybody else over there we can walk away from Iraq from a position of strength.

When we aren't intervening in Middle East politics anymore we don't have to worry about the details all that much.

No, the Arabs will simply continue to spread the global Jihad and use their massive oil revenues to undermine democracies through the spread of radical mosques and madrassas. Under your plan, we will not have to worry about unconstitutional laws, since we be under Sharia within a generation.

Molon Labe
07-18-2008, 02:41 PM
So, you will attack our ally and reward our enemies. Got it. Shall I sew a yellow star of David onto my uniforms now or just wait until you open up the first camps?.

Odysseus:
If the wrong person were to be elected to our current system there is more likelyhood of persecution of Jews and minoriites today because we've allowed an imperial executive branch and strong collectivist centralized federal monstrosity to grow and grow beyond what was ever intended.
There is more chance of tyranny the more collectivist a society becomes. The Nazi's and Soviet's and Roman empire bear witness.
Will we be next?



No, the Arabs will simply continue to spread the global Jihad and use their massive oil revenues to undermine democracies through the spread of radical mosques and madrassas. Under your plan, we will not have to worry about unconstitutional laws, since we be under Sharia within a generation.

I would be worried about that now.
There is no reason to believe that the current crop of legislators even believe in the concepts of constitutional goverance based on the fact that the legislature is suppossed to be the system that when and where to go to war. Currently thesee bozos have handed off legal authority for warmaking to the President....yet again.
If Sharia law comes to this country..it will be because we keep electing Republican's and Democrats that have no concept of constitutional authority. That problem is now.

Troll
07-18-2008, 04:14 PM
I'm of the opinion that if we were actually enforcing our current border and immigration laws, we would have very little to fear from terrorism.

I like your platform, Gator - if I see your name on the NC ballot, I'll vote for you. :D

On edit: I like the elimination of the BATF, but why stop there? I'll see your BATF and raise you the IRS, the Education Department, and the DHS.

ralph wiggum
07-18-2008, 04:23 PM
19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. Establish a National Confederate War memorial and make Robert E. Leeís birthday a National Holliday.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Rebel Yell
07-18-2008, 04:34 PM
19. Apologize on behalf of the United States government to the people of the South for invading their land and killing them. Provide financial restitution to families of Confederates killed by the US government. Establish a National Confederate War memorial and make Robert E. Leeís birthday a National Holliday.

No apology neccesary. We know who we are and what we stand for. We lost, oh well. That don't mean we were wrong. Plus asking for financial restitution would make us no better than.....

gator
07-18-2008, 04:39 PM
I'm of the opinion that if we were actually enforcing our current border and immigration laws, we would have very little to fear from terrorism.

I like your platform, Gator - if I see your name on the NC ballot, I'll vote for you. :D

On edit: I like the elimination of the BATF, but why stop there? I'll see your BATF and raise you the IRS, the Education Department, and the DHS.


I plan to cut Fed expenditures down from 3 trillion a year to about 1.2 trillion. In doing that you can bet your bottom dollar that several worthless government agencies will go away. For instance, I will do away with the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Energy in addition to the ones you mentioned. I would keep one of the National Labs open but I would transfer the responsibility for the Nukes to the DOD. I would also put the DOD in charge of Environmental cleanup at the nuclear weapon facilities because they are much more efficient in environmental cleanup than the DOE. I would stop all this silly government subsidies for energy.

I would not renew any contact that had a union component to it unless it was the real low cost bidder and management had full control of the workforce.

I think the Feds should be charged with defense, road building, and a few other necessary functions. It should be about 10-12% of the GNP, at most. I will stop every entitlement program possible including food stamps and shit ass things like "no child left behind".

The job of the FBI should be to go after real interstate crime and not attacking citizens at places like Ruby Ridge. I would have them going after the gangs in the big cities. That way they would have to earn their pay for a change and actually reduce the crime rate.

I had better get down and sign up for the election in order to get my name on the ballot. I wonder if I will get an endorsement from AIPAC or the NAACP? Both those sleazy organizations will lose out big with me but their members will fare much better in the growing economy I would produce with less big government.

Molon Labe
07-18-2008, 04:51 PM
I'm of the opinion that if we were actually enforcing our current border and immigration laws, we would have very little to fear from terrorism.

I like your platform, Gator - if I see your name on the NC ballot, I'll vote for you. :D

On edit: I like the elimination of the BATF, but why stop there? I'll see your BATF and raise you the IRS, the Education Department, and the DHS.

Bingo!
The next time you hear someone shout out how we should "fight them over there" and how much they want to fight terrorism. Remind them how the borders of every southwestern state are still a gaping seive 7 years on.

Only two people have a platform similar to most of what gator suggests..... and those are Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin. Unfortunately...they don't have the backing of two party apparatus.....but they're both a hell of lot more conservative than McAmnesty. How many conservatives will actually cast a principled vote for one of them is the real pisser.

BSR
07-18-2008, 04:58 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I can smell that stick he used to stir this shit pot all the way from Seattle.

gator
07-18-2008, 05:24 PM
No apology neccesary. We know who we are and what we stand for. We lost, oh well. That don't mean we were wrong. Plus asking for financial restitution would make us no better than.....

"We" wouldn't be asking for it or demanding it. As the leader of the country I would be doing it to help right a wrong. The people of the South were hurt tremendously by the invasion and the murder and it is time to make it right.

I would be more inclined to make the preparations more of a class action thing than a personal payment thing.

For instance, since the Union sent the 54th Massachusetts Colored Regiment to Florida to kill Floridians and destroy Florida then I think it would be right to require that Massachusetts pay the state tax for Florida for say five years or so.

Since troops from Illinois help to burn down Atlanta then the State of Illinois should pay the cost of government for Georgia for a few years.

Does something like that sound equitable?

Goldwater
07-18-2008, 05:42 PM
Mr. Gator, Jack Bing here of the Commie Liberal Times, what is your position in regards to the War on Drugs?

gator
07-18-2008, 06:19 PM
Mr. Gator, Jack Bing here of the Commie Liberal Times, what is your position in regards to the War on Drugs?

I hate druggies, kill them all!

That position is one of the reasons I am not running on the Libertarian Party ticket.

I think when I clean out the gangs of LA and close the border I will stop a lot of that shit.

Odysseus
07-18-2008, 08:12 PM
"We" wouldn't be asking for it or demanding it. As the leader of the country I would be doing it to help right a wrong. The people of the South were hurt tremendously by the invasion and the murder and it is time to make it right.
For instance, since the Union sent the 54th Massachusetts Colored Regiment to Florida to kill Floridians and destroy Florida then I think it would be right to require that Massachusetts pay the state tax for Florida for say five years or so.
Since troops from Illinois help to burn down Atlanta then the State of Illinois should pay the cost of government for Georgia for a few years.
Does something like that sound equitable?

Nope. As in the other reparations argument, most of the people living in Georgia and Florida are not descended from people who were there at the time. By the same token, most of the people in Massachussetts and Illinois who live there now are not descended from those who lived there then. In fact, a lot of southerners moved north after the war, and a lot of northerners have moved south in the last few decades, so simply shifting money geographically makes no sense. And even those who are descendents and whose families stayed put can argue that they are not responsible for the actions of their great-great-grandparents, many of whom were drafted or otherwise compelled to fight.

gator
07-18-2008, 09:05 PM
Nope. As in the other reparations argument, most of the people living in Georgia and Florida are not descended from people who were there at the time. By the same token, most of the people in Massachussetts and Illinois who live there now are not descended from those who lived there then. In fact, a lot of southerners moved north after the war, and a lot of northerners have moved south in the last few decades, so simply shifting money geographically makes no sense. And even those who are descendents and whose families stayed put can argue that they are not responsible for the actions of their great-great-grandparents, many of whom were drafted or otherwise compelled to fight.

This is a discussion for those whose loyalties lie with America. You know, real Americans.

You don't need to concern yourself with things like this. Go read the Tel Aviv News or something instead of concerning yourself with American issues. Maybe you should spend your time figuring out how you can contribute money to the National Israeli Maritime Museum. I saw a report last year that showed they have a memorial to the brave Israeli military that attacked the USS Liberty on June 9th, 1967. You must be very proud.

Goldwater
07-18-2008, 09:20 PM
This is a discussion for those whose loyalties lie with America. You know, real Americans.

You don't need to concern yourself with things like this. Go read the Tel Aviv News or something instead of concerning yourself with American issues. Maybe you should spend your time figuring out how you can contribute money to the National Israeli Maritime Museum. I saw a report last year that showed they have a memorial to the brave Israeli military that attacked the USS Liberty on June 9th, 1967. You must be very proud.

lol, your posts are amazing.

<3

Odysseus
07-19-2008, 12:40 AM
This is a discussion for those whose loyalties lie with America. You know, real Americans.
You don't need to concern yourself with things like this. Go read the Tel Aviv News or something instead of concerning yourself with American issues. Maybe you should spend your time figuring out how you can contribute money to the National Israeli Maritime Museum. I saw a report last year that showed they have a memorial to the brave Israeli military that attacked the USS Liberty on June 9th, 1967. You must be very proud.

I know real Americans. You're not one of them. You abrogated that right when you declared allegiance to a dead secessionist movement. Americans are loyal to the United States of America, not the Confederate States. But, since your reaction to any intelligent disagreement is to get viciously personal, I'll leave you to your little fantasy of slaughtering Israelis and refighting the Civil War. It's better that you have some sort of release, given your mental state and arsenal.