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AHeneen
05-30-2009, 01:25 PM
Shame we can't do this to those pervs here...

Saudis Behead, Crucify Convicted Child Molester, Murderer

Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523364,00.html?test=latestnews)

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia Saudi authorities beheaded and crucified a man convicted of brutally slaying an 11-year-old boy and his father, the Interior Ministry announced.

According to the statement issued by the ministry Friday, shop owner Ahmed al-Anzi molested the boy and then strangled him with a length of rope. He then stabbed the boy's father to death when the man came looking for his son.

He hid both the bodies in his shop, the statement said, adding that al-Anzi threatened police with a knife when they came to arrest him.

Al-Anzi had previously been convicted of sodomy and owning pornographic films, a crime in conservative Saudi Arabia.

Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam. Normally those convicted of rape, murder and drug trafficking in Saudi Arabia are just beheaded.

London-based rights group Amnesty International criticized al-Anzi's execution and crucifixion.

"It is horrific that beheading and crucifixions still happen," said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui of Amnesty International in a statement Friday.

"King Abdullah should show true leadership and commute all death sentences if Saudi Arabia is to have any role to play as a global leader or member of the G20," said Sahraoui.

According to an Associated Press count, Friday's execution brought the number to 35 beheading this year in the kingdom. In 2008, 102 people were beheaded.

micmac
05-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Pics???

FlaGator
05-30-2009, 03:32 PM
Shame we can't do this to those pervs here...



I think I'd rather stay a human being than be transformed in to an animal because of an animal in order to punish an animal.

nero
05-30-2009, 03:47 PM
And the right wing goes nuts when Obama shakes hands with Chavez, an elected leader in a democracy. But turn their heads when Bush kisses the leader of the beheading capital of the world on the lips like a lover.

More fake outrage.

Keep it up kids.

http://www.farleftside.com/misc/misc2009/bush_kiss_saudi.jpg

FlaGator
05-30-2009, 05:40 PM
And the right wing goes nuts when Obama shakes hands with Chavez, an elected leader in a democracy. But turn their heads when Bush kisses the leader of the beheading capital of the world on the lips like a lover.

More fake outrage.

Keep it up kids.

http://www.farleftside.com/misc/misc2009/bush_kiss_saudi.jpg

Please stay on topic. Your message has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

hampshirebrit
05-30-2009, 05:58 PM
I think I'd rather stay a human being than be transformed in to an animal because of an animal in order to punish an animal.

I think I know what you're saying ... but I think also that the punishment more than adequately fits the crime in this case.

I think that I am getting tired of seeing this kind of crime going unpunished, or inadequately punished, in our own society, and this is one of those rare occasions that we can, and probably should, learn from another.

I think that, at the very least, it's time that "life" is meant to mean "life". The fact that it doesn't (at least not in this country) makes a mockery of our legal system, and draws me more and more towards favoring the death penalty for extreme cases such as this.

It is not often you will see me side with the Saudis on any issue, but in this case, I'm willing to make an exception.

lacarnut
05-30-2009, 06:10 PM
Necktie parties or firing squads in the public square would work for me. Conversely, liberal pussies like Nero are against the death penalty regardless of the crime.

nero
05-30-2009, 06:18 PM
Necktie parties or firing squads in the public square would work for me. Conversely, liberal pussies like Nero are against the death penalty regardless of the crime.

With dumb fucks like yourself on the jury, we would be frying innocent people daily.

Rockntractor
05-30-2009, 06:36 PM
With dumb fucks like yourself on the jury, we would be frying innocent people daily.
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/dumb-ass5.jpg?t=1243722922

hampshirebrit
05-30-2009, 06:41 PM
With dumb fucks like yourself on the jury, we would be frying innocent people daily.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all by stating your case as to why you think that LAcar is a dumb fuck on this issue, and why you think that innocents would get fried.

On the latter, you might be right, but you are not, so far, making any worthwhile case against his.

Less of the invective, and more reasoning, if you will.

nero
05-30-2009, 06:44 PM
Perhaps you could enlighten us all by stating your case as to why you think that LAcar is a dumb fuck on this issue, and why you think that innocents would get fried.

On the latter, you might be right, but you are not, so far, making any worthwhile case against his.

Less of the invective, and more reasoning, if you will.


He claimed the FBI agent that worked in Iraq and testified to congress about interrogations is lying to congress and the American people about what happened.

In order to maintain his radical view, he must call the FBI agent a liar, and here we are.

You should have known this much from reading the thread. He IS a dumb fuck.

hampshirebrit
05-30-2009, 06:56 PM
He claimed the FBI agent that worked in Iraq and testified to congress about interrogations is lying to congress and the American people about what happened.

In order to maintain his radical view, he must call the FBI agent a liar, and here we are.

You should have known this much from reading the thread. He IS a dumb fuck.

All of which, for the purposes of THIS thread, are off topic.

The topic of this thread concerns the Saudi methodology of punishment where it concerns murderous pedophiles.

Personally, I have little, if any, issue with this methodology, any more than LAcar does.

Perhaps you do, and if you do, that's what you should be discussing on this thread, rather than any cross thread ramblings of your choosing, either about, or not about FBI agents.

Let's keep things on topic.

The topic is how the Saudis deal with nasties, and how we perceive these dealings, and whether or not we think that such dealings are appropriate to our own societies.

nero
05-30-2009, 07:03 PM
All of which, for the purposes of THIS thread, are off topic.

The topic of this thread concerns the Saudi methodology of punishment where it concerns murderous pedophiles.

Personally, I have little, if any, issue with this methodology, any more than LAcar does.

Perhaps you do, and if you do, that's what you should be discussing on this thread, rather than any cross thread ramblings of your choosing, either about, or not about FBI agents.

Let's keep things on topic.

The topic is how the Saudis deal with nasties, and how we perceive these dealings, and whether or not we think that such dealings are appropriate to our own societies.

Concerning this thread...

Necktie parties or firing squads in the public square would work for me

Not in America. Maybe he needs to move to Saudi or Iran. Anyone who wants beheadings and firing squads in their town squares is a dumb fuck.

He also believes Obamas birth certificate is a fake.... Ya, real smart.:rolleyes:

CorwinK
05-30-2009, 07:05 PM
Shame we can't do this to those pervs here...

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Maybe not beheading and crucifying......but definitely a punishment that fits rather then sending them to chill in jail on taxpayer dollars. Perhaps a public ass whipping is in order...thats a pretty humiliating thing to go through...most studies show that molestation/rape is humiliating in addition to all the other affects asssociated. Perhaps being forced to wear a shirt stating that they are a child molester everywhere they go for a few years would do the trick. Something has to be better than putting them in jail...whether its a life sentence or simply waiting to die.

lacarnut
05-30-2009, 07:11 PM
With dumb fucks like yourself on the jury, we would be frying innocent people daily.

I have been on 2 jury trials. Junior. How many have you been on? The first was a guy charged with receiving stolen property. There was no evidence so we all voted to set him free. The second was an armed robbery and rape case. Within a few hours the police had positive ID, the gun, the money and a matched shoe print. We unanimously found him guilty. The judge imposed life in prison without the possibility of parole. BTW, judges do the sentencing. You are an idiot because a single juror does not decide guilt or innocence of the accused.

Once again, Loser. How many have you been on? Dumb fucks like you would give murder's and pedophiles light sentences because you are bleeding heart liberal.

nero
05-30-2009, 07:14 PM
I have been on 2 jury trials. Junior. How many have you been on? The first was a guy charged with receiving stolen property. There was no evidence so we all voted to set him free. The second was an armed robbery and rape case. Within a few hours the police had positive ID, the gun, the money and a matched shoe print. We unanimously found him guilty. The judge imposed life in prison without the possibility of parole. BTW, judges do the sentencing. You are an idiot because a single juror does not decide guilt or innocence of the accused.

Once again, Loser. How many have you been on? Dumb fucks like you would give murder's and pedophiles light sentences because you are bleeding heart liberal.

I can prove you are a dumbfuck right now... This is how your mind works.

I have been informed that John Mccain has RELEASED his birth certificate because this image has been made available...

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-news/images/johnmccainbirthcertificate.jpg


And I have been told Obama has NOT RELEASED his BC even though these high resolution images have been made available..

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/hands.jpg

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/signature.jpg


http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/seal.jpg

lacarnut
05-30-2009, 07:20 PM
Concerning this thread...

Necktie parties or firing squads in the public square would work for me

Not in America. Maybe he needs to move to Saudi or Iran. Anyone who wants beheadings and firing squads in their town squares is a dumb fuck.

He also believes Obamas birth certificate is a fake.... Ya, real smart.:rolleyes:

It worked well in the Wild West days. Cuts down on prisons too.

Tell you what sparky. If I caught a pedophile who molested my son before the police did, there would be no trial.

nero
05-30-2009, 07:28 PM
It worked well in the Wild West days. Cuts down on prisons too.

Tell you what sparky. If I caught a pedophile who molested my son before the police did, there would be no trial.

See, You are not very smart. You would be put on triall for murder. To claim there would be no trial would have to mean you would also kill yourself ....by all means, don't let me stop you.

Ya, real smart.

hampshirebrit
05-30-2009, 07:31 PM
Concerning this thread...

Necktie parties or firing squads in the public square would work for me

Not in America. Maybe he needs to move to Saudi or Iran. Anyone who wants beheadings and firing squads in their town squares is a dumb fuck.

He also believes Obamas birth certificate is a fake.... Ya, real smart.:rolleyes:

The Obama birth certificate, or any other point you may have clashed with LAcar with here is not in contention. If you want to make a point about this or any other issue, then start another thread, or take it to the dome.

Stay on topic, thus:

Try to see his point of view in terms of his frustration as to what the courts in the US and UK hand down to offenders such as the one cited in the OP, compared to what he sees as the more just (and I agree) Saudi punishment for the same or similar crimes.

You can understand that, can't you?

Public execution, or even execution, might be a step too far for you, but he still has a valid point, don't you think?

You may not agree, and you are entitled to your view, but try to express it coherently, and without any further divergence from the topic at hand.

AHeneen
05-30-2009, 07:32 PM
Maybe not beheading and crucifying......but definitely a punishment that fits rather then sending them to chill in jail on taxpayer dollars. Perhaps a public ass whipping is in order...thats a pretty humiliating thing to go through...most studies show that molestation/rape is humiliating in addition to all the other affects asssociated. Perhaps being forced to wear a shirt stating that they are a child molester everywhere they go for a few years would do the trick. Something has to be better than putting them in jail...whether its a life sentence or simply waiting to die.

That's kind of what I was suggesting. I should have made a clearer statement. I don't think we should be crucifying anyone. I just think that something drastically harsher should be given as punishment. Of course anything embarrassing or harsh would leave the perv crying "cruel and unusual"!

lacarnut
05-30-2009, 07:33 PM
I can prove you are a dumbfuck right now...

The only thing you have proved is that you are an idiot.

I have not brought the O's birth certificate UP on this thread. Better get off those drugs because you do not have too many brain cells left.

The facts ARE that I have REPEATEDLY stated that his B.C. is something that Repubs should not pursue because his impeachment would turn this country upside down and race riots would occur. Do you understand DUMB-FUCK. After he is out of office, that is another matter.

nero
05-30-2009, 07:36 PM
Try to see his point of view .

I did.

He wants public beheadings and firing squads in his town square for all to see. And has claimed he would be execute someone without a trial.

I looked at his point of view, he is a radical animal who has some very anti american views.

Have you looked at his point of view and come to the conclusion that it's rational ?

Lets be honest now. :rolleyes:

lacarnut
05-30-2009, 07:47 PM
I did.

He wants public beheadings and firing squads in his town square for all to see. And has claimed he would be execute someone without a trial.



That's because I wanted to get your bowels in an uproar. Mission accomplished. BWAHAHA

nero
05-30-2009, 07:51 PM
That's because I wanted to get your bowels in an uproar. Mission accomplished. BWAHAHA

Not true, You expressed your true feelings. I proved you are a dumb fuck.

Feel stupid now ? Trying to back track ? nice try.

hampshirebrit
05-30-2009, 08:04 PM
I did.

He wants public beheadings and firing squads in his town square for all to see. And has claimed he would be execute someone without a trial.

I looked at his point of view, he is a radical animal who has some very anti american views.

Have you looked at his point of view and come to the conclusion that it's rational ?

Lets be honest now. :rolleyes:

Good idea.

In the context of the OP, if you were a father, and your 11 yo son got raped and murdered, and then, when you went to find out where your kid was, you too got murdered, which outcome would you want?

What would you want to happen? The court doing nothing or nearly nothing or justice being done by someone else?

The real point is that the sentence handed out by a western court is unlikely to be a just punishment. This may be more so in some jurisdictions than others, but is generally true, and is certainly so in mine.

I would prefer that the court does the right thing, but absent this (a likely outcome) , I would have to accept the LAcar alternative.

Anyway, for the purposes of this discussion, it's still a moot point, since the sentence carried out by the Saudi court was done so under authority of their legal system... regardless of whether you or I like it or not.

lacarnut
05-30-2009, 08:09 PM
Not true, You expressed your true feelings. I proved you are a dumb fuck.

Feel stupid now ? Trying to back track ? nice try.

It's true alright. What's also true is that you are a bleeding heart liberal that wants to coddle pedophiles. Sorry fuckers like you should be exterminated or shipped off to France.

nero
05-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Keep it up.

America is behind you all the way.:rolleyes:

Sonnabend
05-30-2009, 11:36 PM
America is behind you all the way.

Nero has fiddled once too often.:D

Rockntractor
05-30-2009, 11:43 PM
Nero has fiddled once too often.:D
We still have japanaroid but he has not said much lately.

enslaved1
06-01-2009, 08:55 PM
Glad I missed all the distractions on this thread :rolleyes:

OT: One of the reasons why we have so many freaking criminals in the US is because our punishments are too lax. While I can't say that public beheadings and dragging bodies through the streets is the most effective option, sitting in jail for decades, almost always with a possibility of getting out, just doesn't deter some people. Dusting off those electric chairs and injection tables would deter more, as well as make more bedspace in those crowded prisons.

AlmostThere
06-02-2009, 09:07 AM
OT: One of the reasons why we have so many freaking criminals in the US is because our punishments are too lax.

Istead of harsher sentences, if we could inject a few factors, which to date are unknown in the judicial system, I think our judicial system would be the envy of the world.

1) Truth. Not what the lawyers or judges say is true, but the real, whole truth. Does anyone believe that truth really plays a real part in our courts today?

2) Justice. Justice for the accused, justice for the victim and justice for society. This might include protections against police manufacturing evidence, and verdicts not being overturned because some appellate court didn't like the instructions given to a jury.

3) A mechanism where the first 2 could be arrived at in a timely fashion. Timely enough so that the victim, society and the accused can present their case, but swiftly enough so that justice can actually be served. That means that a death sentence isn't carried out 15 - 20 years after a jury has rendered its verdict.

ON EDIT:
I omitted one factor which should have definitely made my list.

4) Common Sense. Why should anyone think that justice and common sense have to be mutually exclusive concepts?

Odysseus
06-02-2009, 09:47 AM
Pics???
I hope not. :eek:

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See, You are not very smart. You would be put on triall for murder. To claim there would be no trial would have to mean you would also kill yourself ....by all means, don't let me stop you.

Ya, real smart.
Well, we've finally found someone that Nero approves of killing. Not the child molester, but the outraged parent. Got it. Another moral inversion courtesy of the idiot left.

Unfortunately, the problem with the Saudis is that while this sentence fits this particular crime, this is also the penalty for a number of things that don't warrant it, like converting from Islam to anything else, for example and, given the way that the Saudis go about their criminal justice system, it's impossible to know for sure whether this guy was the actual perp or a scapegoat. I'll take our system, warts and all, over theirs.

enslaved1
06-02-2009, 05:52 PM
Istead of harsher sentences, if we could inject a few factors, which to date are unknown in the judicial system, I think our judicial system would be the envy of the world.

1) Truth. Not what the lawyers or judges say is true, but the real, whole truth. Does anyone believe that truth really plays a real part in our courts today?

2) Justice. Justice for the accused, justice for the victim and justice for society. This might include protections against police manufacturing evidence, and verdicts not being overturned because some appellate court didn't like the instructions given to a jury.

3) A mechanism where the first 2 could be arrived at in a timely fashion. Timely enough so that the victim, society and the accused can present their case, but swiftly enough so that justice can actually be served. That means that a death sentence isn't carried out 15 - 20 years after a jury has rendered its verdict.

ON EDIT:
I omitted one factor which should have definitely made my list.

4) Common Sense. Why should anyone think that justice and common sense have to be mutually exclusive concepts?

I agree on all points there. My original post did say the lack of adequate punishment is one of the reasons for our overcrowded penal system. It is far from the only reason, and many are far outside of the legal system.