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Gingersnap
06-12-2009, 10:42 AM
S.F. to impose fines for tossing food scraps
Mandatory composting part of city's plan to eliminate landfill waste by 2020

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San Francisco's Board of Supervisors voted 9-2 to pass the nation's toughest recycling law for the city of San Francisco. Those who do not properly separate their garbage, including composting food scraps, will be fined $100.

updated 4:26 p.m. MT, Thurs., June 11, 2009

SAN FRANCISCO - Trash collectors in San Francisco will soon be doing more than just gathering garbage: They'll be keeping an eye out for people who toss food scraps out with their rubbish.

San Francisco this week passed a mandatory composting law that is believed to be the strictest such ordinance in the nation. Residents will be required to have three color-coded trash bins, including one for recycling, one for trash and a new one for compost everything from banana peels to coffee grounds.

The law makes San Francisco the leader yet again in environmentally friendly measures, following up on other green initiatives such as banning plastic bags at supermarkets.

Food scraps sent to a landfill decompose fast and turn into methane gas, a potent greenhouse gas. Under the new system, collected scraps will be turned into compost that helps area farms and vineyards flourish. The city eventually wants to eliminate waste at landfills by 2020.

Chris Peck, the state's Integrated Waste Management Board spokesman, said he wasn't aware of an ordinance as tough as San Francisco's. Many cities, including Pittsburgh and San Diego, require residents to recycle yard waste but not food scraps. Seattle requires households to put scraps in the compost bin or have a composting system, but those who don't comply aren't fined.

"The city has been progressive, and they've been leaders and it appears that they're stepping out of the pack again," he said.

Waste collectors will not pick through anyone's garbage, said Robert Reed, a spokesman for Sunset Scavenger Co., which handles the city's recyclables. If the wrong kind of materials are noticed while a bin is being emptied, workers will leave what Reed called "a love note," to let customers know they are not with the program.

I'm all for composting - I do it myself but this kind of thing is nuts and intrusive.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31265662)

BadCat
06-12-2009, 10:48 AM
I used to voluntarily recycle.

Then our city made it mandatory, jacked up our garbage collection rates and foisted the dreaded green recycling bins on the whole city.

I just use it as a second trash can. If they find something recyclable in there, good for them.

FlaGator
06-12-2009, 11:00 AM
So instead of all the vermin and disease carrying insects being confined mostly to the city landfill they want to increase the size of the vermin habitat by turning the whole city in to a landfill? I can't even chalk this up as a result of unintended consequences because this future problem isn't that hard to predict.

Gingersnap
06-12-2009, 11:21 AM
So instead of all the vermin and disease carrying insects being confined mostly to the city landfill they want to increase the side of the vermin habitat by turning the whole city in to a landfill? I can't even chalk this up as a result of unintended consequences because this future problem isn't that hard to predict.

This is a problem they are running into in the U.K. right now.

stsinner
06-12-2009, 11:34 AM
This is a problem they are running into in the U.K. right now.

The UK is making a headlong plunge toward Socialism, and we're not far behind.. Telling people what to do with their food scraps? This is too much.

PoliCon
06-12-2009, 12:13 PM
I'm all for composting - I do it myself but this kind of thing is nuts and intrusive.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31265662)

I'd pack all mine into a box - let it sit out in the garage for a week or so - and then mail it to the City council members who vote for this stupid shit. A different person every week.

PoliCon
06-12-2009, 12:17 PM
I used to voluntarily recycle.

Then our city made it mandatory, jacked up our garbage collection rates and foisted the dreaded green recycling bins on the whole city.

I just use it as a second trash can. If they find something recyclable in there, good for them.

We used to recycle and did it to save money. Then the government came along said I have to recycle - that I can't do it myself - that I have to go through them and that instead of getting a couple of bucks back every month - I'd have to pay 5x as much to them for taking it away. STUPID &%@#ing bureaucrats! :mad:

FlaGator
06-12-2009, 12:21 PM
I'd pack all mine into a box - let it sit out in the garage for a week or so - and then mail it to the City council members who vote for this stupid shit. A different person every week.

They'd probably find a way to have you arrested for shipping a biohazard through the U. S. mail system.

Speedy
06-12-2009, 12:53 PM
I guess I would have to move. I used to voluntarily recycle but I would not go all apeshit if I screwed up. Then the enviromentalists started screeching and shrieking. Fuck that! I actively try to be as ungreen as I can possibly be.

lacarnut
06-12-2009, 01:43 PM
I used to be anti-recycling but got used to it like seat belts and it does not bother me anymore. This 3rd recycling bin is for the birds and I would not do it. My white trash neighbor does not recycle and leaves her garbage can in the front yard.

PoliCon
06-12-2009, 03:14 PM
They'd probably find a way to have you arrested for shipping a biohazard through the U. S. mail system.

like I would leave any identifiable marks on the package . . . . nor would I send it from my house either. :p I may be a registered democrat - but not because I'm stupid enough to buy any of their crap!

PoliCon
06-12-2009, 03:14 PM
I guess I would have to move. I used to voluntarily recycle but I would not go all apeshit if I screwed up. Then the enviromentalists started screeching and shrieking. Fuck that! I actively try to be as ungreen as I can possibly be.

AMEN!