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megimoo
06-14-2009, 01:29 PM
Round up 'hate speech' promoters?

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CBS News and U.S. News have posted a stunning, disturbing opinion piece by Bonnie Erbe. Here's who she is, for those of you who may not be familiar with her work:

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Her voice is loud and reaches far. Here's what it's saying:

Round Up Hate-Promoters Now, Before Any More Holocaust Museum Attacks

"Translation : Round up pro lifers and lock em up !"

Erbe takes her lead from a statement made by Playwright Janet Langhart Cohen on CNN following the Holocaust Museum shooting:

She said something must be done about ridding the Internet and the public dialogue of hate speech. I agree.

And what is that "something"?

Isn't it time we started rounding up promoters of hate before they kill?

I don't know, Bonnie, is it? Who is going to determine who the haters are? And without a Department of PreCrime, who can determine when one of them will kill? Who is going to be doing the round up? Are we going to maybe house them at Gitmo now that we're clearing that place out? Any trials planned in your little fantasy?

And what do you suggest "we" do if some decide to resist the "round ups"?

Why is it your "Final Solution"...I mean, "Last Roundup" to oppose neo-Nazism sounds just like something the Nazis would do, Bonnie?

I saw this coming when I wrote "Holocaust Museum shooting must not be exploited to erode liberty" the other day, citing a blogger on a popular left-wing site and expressing concern that it represented the tip of an iceberg. As we can see, it hasn't taken long for mainstream "authorized journalists" to take up the cause.

I note the chilling Ms. Erbe is affiliated with the Thomas Jefferson Street blog. I can't help but wonder what she'd have to say about an extreme insurrectionist promulgating violent views like this:

the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure.

If Ms. Erbe and those like her get their wish, we will find out how deep that tree's roots go, how wide its branches spread.

So who am I siding with, the haters?

From where I sit, that designation belongs to Ms. Erbe. And as far a neo-Nazis go, I can't help but notice many of her political sympathies appear both national and socialist in scope.

My friend and colleague Mike Vanderboegh has sized things up well in his open letter to Erbe:

You wish to sweep away those that you find "hateful." Have you ever considered that there are many who find your ideas "hateful?"

Most of the Founders understood that you should never pass a law that you wouldn't be willing to see enforced upon you by your own worst enemy. (John Adams didn't, but then he and his party were swept from power by the reaction to the Alien and Sedition Acts.) If you really believe what you wrote, and worse, get what you ask for, the resulting armed resistance to such a tyrannical proposal would sweep away the safe, mythical cocoon within which you seem to live.

And if you think that tyranny and civil war cannot come to this country, as divided ideologically and morally as we presently are, you are whistling past the graveyard of history.

A government that would do what Bonnie Erbe demands is the very reason Thomas Jefferson wrote:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m6d13-Round-up-hate-speech-promoters

megimoo
06-14-2009, 01:36 PM
Bonnie Erbe: That Playboy “hate f***” piece was wrong but Malkin sort of deserved it

"This old Liberal Broad is a female version of Bill Press !"

"The Liberal political 'Sexual Assault' Pointy Headed Mantra is Playing Out A Lot These Days"

Consider this progress. Playboy thought all conservative women were fair game for quasi-rape fantasies. Erbe thinks it’s only the ones who are “venomous.” Baby steps.

Yesterday, I was contacted by the executive director of SmartGirlPolitics.org, a conservative women’s website, to stand up for conservative women treated despicably by the media. Here I am, doing just that…
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I also want to note that at least one woman on the list is so venom-spewing, she unfortunately invites venom to be shot back at her: Michelle Malkin. Her posts and her “routine” are so venomous and predictable, in fact, I stopped paying attention to her years ago.
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Others on the list, however, are not venom-spewing at all. One woman mentioned on the atlasshrugs2000 blog is a regular guest on my PBS show. Amanda Carpenter, on the show at least, eschews personal judgment of people with whom she disagrees politically. So her inclusion on the Playboy list is much more offensive to me than is the inclusion of Ms. Malkin, although their political views may not differ greatly.

A commenter on her post sums it up this way:

As a nonpartisan, pro-abortion, liberal Democrat, I was perfectly happy with the leftwing misogynist haters at Playboy talking about how they would rape Michelle Malkin…
Oh, now. She didn’t say she was happy, just … indifferent. I don’t get why MM was the only one singled out, though. Wasn’t Laura Ingraham, who’s as fearless as anyone in confronting the left, also on the Playboy list? Surely her years of “venomous” radio work qualify her for a sexual-assault fantasy or two in print. Presumably Erbe’s simply more familiar with MM due to her online presence and happy to toe the lefty line that she’s the devil incarnate, notwithstanding her own admission that she doesn’t follow Michelle’s work. I do follow it, of course, as do you, so let’s all be sure to call the boss out the next time she does something as venomous as shrugging off a rape hit list because she doesn’t care for the tone of one of the women on it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/03/bonnie-erbe-that-playboy-hate-f-piece-was-wrong-but-malkin-sort-of-deserved-it/

Troll
06-14-2009, 11:17 PM
Here's the original piece for anyone who's interested:

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2009/06/11/round-up-hate-promoters-now-before-any-more-holocaust-museum-attacks.html


If yesterday's Holocaust Museum slaying of security guard and national hero Stephen Tyrone Johns is not a clarion call for banning hate speech, I don't know what is.

Be ready for that and lots more liberal drivel. :rolleyes:

NJCardFan
06-14-2009, 11:27 PM
I guess this woman never heard of the 1st Amendment.

FlaGator
06-15-2009, 07:40 AM
This issue is more than banning hate speech. The issue really boils down to what is hate speech and who defines it. Chances are it would become a fluid definition that changes based on the current social trends at any given moment. To ban one type of speech opens the door to a complete reinterpretation of the first amendment which the libs would love to do but they also understand that eventually the reinterpretation would be pointed in their direction.

stsinner
06-15-2009, 09:05 AM
The person I'd like to see arrested is the one spewing hate speech about his own country and apologizing for America being great while on foreign soil repeatedly.