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Teetop
06-25-2009, 03:59 PM
Via; The Real World blog. (http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/texas-gets-it-right-without-left.html)


As the accompanying article clearly illustrates, in Texas life is good in large part due to the fact that the far left is not in charge.

Texas is the model for the way government should operate. Most significantly, they have a part time rather than a full time legislature. It ought to be that way everywhere. In places like California where the legislature is a full time operation, the state is so upside down that literally nothing works properly.

There is no need for full time legislatures and there is especially no need on any level of government for professional career politicians. They are in fact the root cause of most of the mess that the majority of states and the nation finds all around them.

But the best aspect of this article by far is the news that the trial lawyers, one of the richest and most contributive leftist constituencies in America, blew $9M out the door trying to influence the Texas legislature to favor their cause and got absolutely nowhere for their money. Would it were that way everywhere in the country.

One of the root causes of much of what is wrong about our nation can be traced directly to the reality of far too much needless litigation anywhere you look. For instance, it plays a big role in the run away costs associated with health care. It robs our government schools of hundreds of millions of dollars every year. It drives up wholly unnecessary costs in the business world, all of which gets passed on to us consumers. Frivolous torts cost the American economy billions of dollars annually, most of which is a useless and unnecessary payday for greedy lawyers and their equally greedy clients.

And who smooths they way for all of that waste? Liberal Democrat politicians who, for all intents and purposes, exist and thrive in the pockets of the trial lawyers. In fact most of them, including Barack Obama, are lawyers themselves. Only Lincoln, among Presidents rated great, was a lawyer, but he was self-educated and anything but a man of the left. In fact, he was an honorable and honest lawyer which in his time was more the norm but which, in today's world, is an endangered species.

After all, in most states it is much easier to get rich quick via the frivolous tort litigation route than it is to actually earn wealth or hit the lottery. And America has far, far too many attorneys all of whom are looking to make a fast buck and live La Dolce Vita by taking virtually anything to court. Or by running for office as a career politician.

You see, Texas is not left, at least not anymore. In the Lone Star State, people understand how the world works. They can see straight and they have common sense, by and large.

Thus their tax rates are low, their economy so much better than virtually all of the rest of the nation. As noted below, Texas created more jobs last year than all of the rest of the states COMBINED! Certainly the state is not without it's problems, but they are insignificant compared to say the late great State of California. Of course, in Texas the state legislature has not been dominated by the left for decades as has that of California.

Want to see what the future of this nation holds with the federal government in the hands of the left? Look at California, the canary in the coal mine.

Need a role model what America can be again? Look no further than Texas.


I am very proud of our state to not be in such as bad of shape as other states.

wilbur
06-25-2009, 04:05 PM
Via; The Real World blog. (http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/texas-gets-it-right-without-left.html)

I am very proud of our state to not be in such as bad of shape as other states.

I can also say good on Texas for making progress in rebuking the creationists and intelligent designers who have tried extremely hard to usurp education in the state, under the guise of "Academic Freedom". One more thing for you to be proud of.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=evolution-wins-a-round-in-texas-edu-2009-01-23

stsinner
06-25-2009, 04:55 PM
I can also say good on Texas for making progress in rebuking the creationists and intelligent designers who have tried extremely hard to usurp education in the state, under the guise of "Academic Freedom". One more thing for you to be proud of.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=evolution-wins-a-round-in-texas-edu-2009-01-23

Not subscribing to a religion is one thing, but to be so blatantly anti-religion is bigoted, ignorant and antagonistic.

wilbur
06-25-2009, 05:05 PM
Not subscribing to a religion is one thing, but to be so blatantly anti-religion is bigoted, ignorant and antagonistic.

Millions of Catholics and other non-literalist Christians would probably disagree that my post in this thread was anti-religious.

megimoo
06-25-2009, 05:21 PM
Millions of Catholics and other non-literalist Christians would probably disagree that my post in this thread was anti-religious.
It's definitely bigoted and Anti Religious as is everything else you post .Your hatred for anything Christian or especially Catholic is obvious to all here.
You jump on any thread that hints at any teaching of the bible that you disagree with while advocating behavior that is expressly condemned by GOD in the good book .

MrsSmith
06-25-2009, 06:32 PM
Millions of Catholics and other non-literalist Christians would probably disagree that my post in this thread was anti-religious.
You really need to decide whether it's the (so-called delusional) majority being silenced by those with your views, or if those with your bigoted and anti-religious views really are the majority. You can't whine about complaints from "the persecuted majority" if you are an example of the majority.

wilbur
06-25-2009, 08:13 PM
You really need to decide whether it's the (so-called delusional) majority being silenced by those with your views, or if those with your bigoted and anti-religious views really are the majority. You can't whine about complaints from "the persecuted majority" if you are an example of the majority.

Academic standards in Texas were voted on by the schoolboard, not by some majority of people. But several other states have not fared so well.

And please note, that removing creationist/id language from the academic standards (and creationist friendly textbooks) is not anti-religious... and such measures have much support from Christians and non-Christians alike.

MrsSmith
06-25-2009, 08:30 PM
Academic standards in Texas were voted on by the schoolboard, not by some majority of people. But several other states have not fared so well.

And please note, that removing creationist/id language from the academic standards (and creationist friendly textbooks) is not anti-religious... and such measures have much support from Christians and non-Christians alike.Hmmm, then those who are being denied their right to free speech would not be a majority. In fact, they may actually be...gasp...persecuted by the majority. But no, that can't be...that would make you a fascist. :eek:

wilbur
06-25-2009, 08:34 PM
Hmmm, then those who are being denied their right to free speech would not be a majority. In fact, they may actually be...gasp...persecuted by the majority. But no, that can't be...that would make you a fascist. :eek:

Coherency please... whose right to free speech is being denied here?

MrsSmith
06-25-2009, 10:38 PM
Coherency please... whose right to free speech is being denied here?

Yes, wilbur, whose right to free speech is being denied?
And please note, that removing creationist/id language from the academic standards

Why, those who disagree with YOUR ideology, creed, dogma, that's all. No one important...to you. Just those who have been, what was your phrase...mind-raped. Of course, no correctly-thinking person would ever have any problem with denying these "delusional" people their first amendment rights...because the leftist creed running our education system is just so positive that they're, well, delusional...just all wrong. And we all "know" that people with "incorrect" theories, beliefs and principals have no rights in today's Land of the Free. Remember, today's "freedom" is based on agreeing with wilbur and other right...oops, I mean "correct" thinking, "tolerant" people.

In other, oft quoted words...scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

wilbur
06-26-2009, 12:07 AM
Yes, wilbur, whose right to free speech is being denied?

Why, those who disagree with YOUR ideology, creed, dogma, that's all. No one important...to you. Just those who have been, what was your phrase...mind-raped. Of course, no correctly-thinking person would ever have any problem with denying these "delusional" people their first amendment rights...

I think you are confused... Its not a first amendment right to teach literalist Christian apologetics and apologetics-lite (ID) in forums such as public school science classes. So sorry. Perhaps your husband can explain the difference between apologetics and science (oh wait, nevermind, he probably can't).



because the leftist creed running our education system is just so positive that they're, well, delusional...just all wrong. And we all "know" that people with "incorrect" theories, beliefs and principals have no rights in today's Land of the Free. Remember, today's "freedom" is based on agreeing with wilbur and other right...oops, I mean "correct" thinking, "tolerant" people.


When it comes to teaching science, its about sticking to science, not my opinion. I know this is hard to believe, but the schoolboard vote didnt hinge on my opinion, strangely enough. They didnt even consult me! It hinged on the opinion of the schoolboard members who spent months reviewing the standards and hearing testimony of scientists, ID advocates and creationists. But you're right.. they were probably just intolerant Christian haters.



You have the same rights as anyone else.. you just don't get special treat

In other, oft quoted words...scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

Yes, removing ambiguous language that could allow the teaching of forms of Christian apologetics in public school science is fascism.... or not.

Your equivocation of the school boards decision in Texas to a first amendment free speech and religious persecution issue is just... moonbattery of the highest order. Not to mention your myopic self-centeredness about your particular brand of Christianity... this isnt a godless left/christian right issue. Its literalist fundamentalists and idists vs. everyone else.. including Christians who would criticize your exegesis of the creation story (and attempts to categorize it as science) just as voraciously as I would. You don't seem to understand this.

MrsSmith
06-28-2009, 12:42 PM
I hope you've re-read your post, wil, because it boils down to,"Anyone who doesn't believe the way I believe has no right to mention their beliefs in public schools, so I absolutely disagree that this is a First Amendment issue." Remember that attitude when you find yourself in the minority.

wilbur
06-28-2009, 07:53 PM
I hope you've re-read your post, wil, because it boils down to,"Anyone who doesn't believe the way I believe has no right to mention their beliefs in public schools, so I absolutely disagree that this is a First Amendment issue." Remember that attitude when you find yourself in the minority.

I hope you've re-read your post, because it sounds like you are willing to accept that when any belief is prohibited from the science classroom, that it is a violation of the first amendment. Who are we to tell astrologers, tarot card readers, crystal healers, chakra re-aligners, homeopaths, and psychic surgeons that their beliefs are bullshit and have no place in a science curriculum?

Rockntractor
06-28-2009, 08:04 PM
I hope you've re-read your post, because it sounds like you are willing to accept that when any belief is prohibited from the science classroom, that it is a violation of the first amendment. Who are we to tell astrologers, tarot card readers, crystal healers, chakra re-aligners, homeopaths, and psychic surgeons that their beliefs are bullshit and have no place in a science curriculum?

I threw a handfull of chicken bones on the ground today and they said you need your ass kicked!

Teetop
06-28-2009, 10:10 PM
I threw a handfull of chicken bones on the ground today and they said you need your ass kicked!

LOL! I knew an okie, would try anything. ;)

Zafod
06-29-2009, 12:27 AM
I threw a handfull of chicken bones on the ground today and they said you need your ass kicked!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I love it!!!

lacarnut
06-29-2009, 12:42 AM
I threw a handfull of chicken bones on the ground today and they said you need your ass kicked!

Once a day and twice on Sunday.

satanica
06-29-2009, 10:50 AM
Texas is like the rest of the states. Obama took all the big cities, and McCain took the hillbilly vote.

Dallas .... Obama 57%

Austin .... Obama 64%

Houston .... Obama 51%

San Antonio ..Obama 52%

El Paso ....Obama 66%

ralph wiggum
06-29-2009, 11:50 AM
Texas is like the rest of the states. Obama took all the big cities, and McCain took the hillbilly vote.

:rolleyes:

Check the suburban vote, or do they not count to you? Not everyone lives in the "big" cities. I'm sure McCain won handily in Irving, Arlington, Plano, The Woodlands, Spring, etc., etc., etc....and on throughout the country.

Zafod
06-29-2009, 12:33 PM
*SWOOOOOP*




*poop*


.....

satanica
06-29-2009, 01:33 PM
:rolleyes:

Check the suburban vote, or do they not count to you? Not everyone lives in the "big" cities. I'm sure McCain won handily in Irving, Arlington, Plano, The Woodlands, Spring, etc., etc., etc....and on throughout the country.

Your right, I am sure he took the hillbilly vote. The educated in the cities voted for the Democrat, same as every election, even in red states.

As you move away from the big cities you will find the education levels go down, and these uneducated idiots tend to vote republican. Same in every state.

enslaved1
06-29-2009, 01:42 PM
Your right, I am sure he took the hillbilly vote. The educated in the cities voted for the Democrat, same as every election, even in red states.

As you move away from the big cities you will find the education levels go down, and these uneducated idiots tend to vote republican. Same in every state.

Says quite a bit about governement brainwash...oops I mean government education don't it? Assuming that your statements are correct of course.

satanica
06-29-2009, 01:46 PM
Public schools are brainwashing kids ?

Ya, OK.

ralph wiggum
06-29-2009, 01:49 PM
Your right, I am sure he took the hillbilly vote. The educated in the cities voted for the Democrat, same as every election, even in red states.

As you move away from the big cities you will find the education levels go down, and these uneducated idiots tend to vote republican. Same in every state.

Are you actually trying to claim that people who live in the suburbs are "hillbillies" and "uneducated"?

satanica
06-29-2009, 01:52 PM
Are you actually trying to claim that people who live in the suburbs are "hillbillies" and "uneducated"?

Not really. But the education level does drop the farther you get from the cities, you could say they are less educated than the people in the city, in general terms.

ralph wiggum
06-29-2009, 02:08 PM
Not really. But the education level does drop the farther you get from the cities, you could say they are less educated than the people in the city, in general terms.

And you have actual evidence of this? I'm comparing the cities to the suburbs only. Rural America is not what I'm referring to in this case.

Rockntractor
06-29-2009, 02:11 PM
Not really. But the education level does drop the farther you get from the cities, you could say they are less educated than the people in the city, in general terms.

Iv'e noticed the common sense level goes up when you are in a rural area. You were raised in a city weren't you. You are the type i wouldn't trust around machinery.

lacarnut
06-29-2009, 02:17 PM
Not really. But the education level does drop the farther you get from the cities, you could say they are less educated than the people in the city, in general terms.

If that is true, you must have evolved from BFE. You sentence structure and punctuation is atrocious even for a dumb ass liberal.

Zafod
06-29-2009, 03:03 PM
guys you know this fuckstick is nothing but a swoop and poop liberfucktard troll.....

Zafod
06-29-2009, 03:06 PM
Your right, I am sure he took the hillbilly vote. The educated in the cities voted for the Democrat, same as every election, even in red states.

As you move away from the big cities you will find the education levels go down, and these uneducated idiots tend to vote republican. Same in every state.

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enslaved1
06-29-2009, 03:46 PM
Public schools are brainwashing kids ?

Ya, OK.

They don't teach them anything useful, like how to form their own opinions, analyse facts, read historical documents to see what they read, ect. Just liberal talking points and political correctness.

And just to cut you off, I've had three kids in public schools, my wife was a special ed teacher, my mother just retired from teaching, and I held and used a substitute teachers licence for two years, in addition to simply paying attention.

enslaved1
06-29-2009, 03:48 PM
guys you know this fuckstick is nothing but a swoop and poop liberfucktard troll.....

Yes, but there has been a lack of quality chew toys here for a while.

satanica
06-30-2009, 08:28 AM
They don't teach them anything useful, like how to form their own opinions, analyse facts, read historical documents to see what they read, ect. Just liberal talking points and political correctness.

And just to cut you off, I've had three kids in public schools, my wife was a special ed teacher, my mother just retired from teaching, and I held and used a substitute teachers licence for two years, in addition to simply paying attention.

Listen up idiot. You just explained on the shortfalls of our education, you never told me how the schools are brainwashing the kids.

enslaved1
07-01-2009, 01:47 AM
Listen up idiot. You just explained on the shortfalls of our education, you never told me how the schools are brainwashing the kids.

It's a real short sentence with small words, but I'll point it out for you anyway.....


They don't teach them anything useful, like how to form their own opinions, analyze facts, read historical documents to see what they read, ect. Just liberal talking points and political correctness.

And just to cut you off, I've had three kids in public schools, my wife was a special ed teacher, my mother just retired from teaching, and I held and used a substitute teachers license for two years, in addition to simply paying attention.

The bolded part is the important one here. The italicized line is support. Feeding children nothing but propaganda while not developing their ability to act as individuals.....sounds like brainwashing to me, whatchathink?