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megimoo
07-03-2009, 11:04 AM
Americans will celebrate their freedom on Independence Day with a certain irony tomorrow. Not all Americans have the freedom to celebrate the holiday with the traditional festive bang. That's because many places ban fireworks.

Although about 94 million of us live in states that allow all sorts of fireworks and firecracker use, 43 million Americans live in six states - including New York and New Jersey - where you need a permit to even light a sparkler. California bans some types of fireworks and allows cities to expand what is prohibited. Safety is supposedly the major concern of those who ban our celebratory backyard light-and-noise shows, but their fears are overblown.

Banning personal use of fireworks may actually result in more accidental fires because some of those who try to avoid getting caught set them off in remote fields, causing fires that take longer to discover.

This issue is badly distorted by the media. A search of newspapers found over 300 news stories in the last year warning that fireworks could be "deadly" if used improperly. But the facts don't show sparklers and bottle rockets to be much of a public menace. Eleven people died in 2006 from the use of fireworks. The average from 1999 to 2006 was just over six a year.

The relationship between fireworks use and deaths has been tenuous at best over the years. Although almost exactly the same number of people died in 1990 and 2006, fireworks use grew almost every year, soaring from 68 million pounds of explosives used in 1990 to 266 million pounds by 2007. Over that same period, the number of injuries treated in hospital emergency rooms fell.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/03/rockets-red-scare/

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 11:14 AM
In Oklahoma they have discovered you can make it legal inside the city limits and the city charges you for a license to be able to fire them. Years ago they used safety concerns to illegalize them in the cities but now it is safe if you pay the appropriate tax.

megimoo
07-03-2009, 11:35 AM
In Oklahoma they have discovered you can make it legal inside the city limits and the city charges you for a license to be able to fire them. Years ago they used safety concerns to illegalize them in the cities but now it is safe if you pay the appropriate tax.Those suckers would tax the air we breath if they could get away with it !

lacarnut
07-03-2009, 11:52 AM
Under strict supervision and no alcohol being consumed by the adults, I guess it's Ok. There are so many kids injured due to fireworks though. After my stepson got hold of a couple of dynamite blasting caps, set one off on concrete exploding hitting him the eye and setting the other one off in his hand, fireworks were never allowed. The sight of his mangled hand and eye was enough to turn me off of things that go boom.

stsinner
07-03-2009, 11:55 AM
The shitty state I live in has deemed it necessary to revoke our adulthood for the July 4th festivities... I live 5 minutes from the New Hampshire border where they've just built a new fireworks store literally a stone's throw from the Mass border.. What a sick way to taunt us. The cops sit and watch for massachusetts plated cars to park at the fireworks store..

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 11:56 AM
Under strict supervision and no alcohol being consumed by the adults, I guess it's Ok. There are so many kids injured due to fireworks though. After my stepson got hold of a couple of dynamite blasting caps, set one off on concrete exploding hitting him the eye and setting the other one off in his hand, fireworks were never allowed. The sight of his mangled hand and eye was enough to turn me off of things that go boom.

Sorry to hear that. Those wre industrial explosives they are a lot different than modern fireworks. The tubes that shoot the flaming balls can be dangerous though. I fried my foot with one a couple of years ago.

stsinner
07-03-2009, 12:10 PM
Sorry to hear that. Those wre industrial explosives they are a lot different than modern fireworks. The tubes that shoot the flaming balls can be dangerous though. I fried my foot with one a couple of years ago.

We used to have roman candle fights...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7PblhdPaBo&feature=related

And nothings more dangerous than when your dog runs off with your roman candle after you light it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8mDAae7LEY

SaintLouieWoman
07-03-2009, 03:21 PM
It's illegal in St Louis City and St Louis County to sell and set off fireworks. Soooo, folks just go to Jefferson County and purchase the stuff. :rolleyes:

I'm not too thrilled during dry years when the kids send up those rockets and they land on the roof.

The neighbor kids in our subdivision set off a lot of stuff. We just keep the dogs in the house. The noise doesn't seem to bother them very much, particularly since St Louis County is replacing the concrete streets in the subdivision. The noise when they're jackhammering the old concrete has gotten the hounds accustomed to loud booms.