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SarasotaRepub
07-03-2009, 03:50 PM
WASHINGTON (CNN) – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin announced Friday she would not seek a second term and would soon step down as governor.

LINK (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/)

Texas Terrier
07-03-2009, 03:54 PM
Gearing up for 2012...maybe 2010 Senate race?

Palin Quits, Transfers Power to Lt. Governor

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Friday that she is stepping down at the end of the month, setting up a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin shocked the political word Friday by announcing that she will step down at the end of the month and transfer power to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnel

Palin made the announcement from her home in Wasilla, flanked by her husband, Todd, and family and state commissioners.

Palin's decision now allows her to avoid the difficult task of running for president while serving as governor.

Palin gained national prominence when GOP presidential candidate John McCain picked her as his running mate last year. But her approval ratings in the state have skidded in recent months.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/03/palin-opts-run-second-term-alaska-governor/

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 04:24 PM
Gearing up for 2012...maybe 2010 Senate race?

Palin Quits, Transfers Power to Lt. Governor

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Friday that she is stepping down at the end of the month, setting up a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin shocked the political word Friday by announcing that she will step down at the end of the month and transfer power to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnel

Palin made the announcement from her home in Wasilla, flanked by her husband, Todd, and family and state commissioners.

Palin's decision now allows her to avoid the difficult task of running for president while serving as governor.

Palin gained national prominence when GOP presidential candidate John McCain picked her as his running mate last year. But her approval ratings in the state have skidded in recent months.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/03/palin-opts-run-second-term-alaska-governor/

Well good for her. She'll be able to run unfettered.


Is it the Vanity Fair article that is making her step down early?

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm not seeing this as a positive she only had a year and a half left. I think she is done politicaly.

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 04:56 PM
I'm not seeing this as a positive she only had a year and a half left. I think she is done politicaly.

Is this about the Vanity Fair article?

And it would have to be pretty bad to make her resign so quickly.

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 05:12 PM
Is this about the Vanity Fair article?

And it would have to be pretty bad to make her resign so quickly.

This is about everything she has been through in the past year. Her family is more important. She is giving it up for her baby and her family.

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 05:40 PM
This is about everything she has been through in the past year. Her family is more important. She is giving it up for her baby and her family.

Oblahblah's people put her through hell. I know that. (As if the Chicago politician without a resume didn't have any skeletons.)

But, this was so sudden. Something's really off.

stsinner
07-03-2009, 05:44 PM
Said did say, howerver, "“We are not retreating; we are advancing in another direction.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24497.html#ixzz0KEdkMFqE&D

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 05:47 PM
Oblahblah's people put her through hell. I know that. (As if the Chicago politician without a resume didn't have any skeletons.)

But, this was so sudden. Something's really off.

I am honestly not surrprised. normal decent woman with a new baby. Her entire family under constant attack. I am surprised she lasted this long. With that weasle McCain even her own party was crapping on her. This is the beggining of the end for decent people in politics. The way I see it they are winning this round.

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 05:50 PM
Said did say, howerver, "“We are not retreating; we are advancing in another direction.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24497.html#ixzz0KEdkMFqE&D

No one advances by giving up a governor position. This is clearly a retreat. She will come back like Gingritch as a commentator.

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 05:53 PM
No one advances by giving up a governor position. This is clearly a retreat. She will come back like Gingritch as a commentator.

That I can see. Just sad. And I think you're right about running decent people out of politics.

SaintLouieWoman
07-03-2009, 06:05 PM
That I can see. Just sad. And I think you're right about running decent people out of politics.

If there are any left---decent people. I had a request for money from McCain. I deleted it instantly. Next time, I'm going to reply that my donation for his next campaign will be coming when hell freezes over.

In an article on Charter, Palin had commented that some meanspirited people were even making fun of her little Downs Syndrome baby. People might say she needs to be thicker skinned, but the attacks that have been made on her are well beyond the normal political comments. :rolleyes:

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 06:13 PM
If there are any left---decent people. I had a request for money from McCain. I deleted it instantly. Next time, I'm going to reply that my donation for his next campaign will be coming when hell freezes over.

In an article on Charter, Palin had commented that some meanspirited people were even making fun of her little Downs Syndrome baby. People might say she needs to be thicker skinned, but the attacks that have been made on her are well beyond the normal political comments. :rolleyes:

The comments also got nasty in a particularly misgynist way.

But I think this is about fighting the stimulus, fighting the takeover of Americans in a totalitarian way. I seem to remember that both she and Sanford refused the stimulus money.

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 06:15 PM
I keep hearing this and I agree with it more every time I hear it. The only thing that will change our descent into complete socialism is a big war. Good people are leaving politics. The voters have no concience or morality. The united states as we know it is crumbling. To me this fourth of july is more of a funeral.

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 06:18 PM
I keep hearing this and I agree with it more every time I hear it. The only thing that will change our descent into complete socialism is a big war. Good people are leaving politics. The voters have no concience or morality. The united states as we know it is crumbling. To me this fourth of july is more of a funeral.

This is when we need strong people, and everyone is overweight, dumbed down by the public school system, and watching TV.

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 06:22 PM
This is when we need strong people, and everyone is overweight, dumbed down by the public school system, and watching TV.
Nature doesn't like a vacuum. Something always happens when people become this complacent. Everyone was stuck to their tv's mourning Michael jackson while Cap & trade went through the house. We have sold our soul.

AlmostThere
07-03-2009, 07:06 PM
Perhaps she has finished trying to fight as a Republican. I've been a registered Republican for over 30 years and I've never been more disillusioned with the party than I am now. If she were planning a third party run, I'd think it would be difficult to do as a Republican Governor.

stsinner
07-03-2009, 07:09 PM
Remember what I told you guys John Ziegler said that the viewing of his documentary I attended-When he interviewed her, he got the feeling that she'd bow out of politics completely because the media was still up in Wasilla just ravaging her and her family. There's no way a decent person can be a politician. Wasilla was her only chance at succeeding as one, because she didn't have to be a Washington insider-those creeps would sell their own grandmother for votes. I don't think she would.

Speedy
07-03-2009, 07:18 PM
Perhaps she has finished trying to fight as a Republican. I've been a registered Republican for over 30 years and I've never been more disillusioned with the party than I am now. If she were planning a third party run, I'd think it would be difficult to do as a Republican Governor.

Third Party runs for President are a farce. It takes a third party at least 20 years to really be viable and that is starting from the bottom with Congressional maybe a Senate seat or two. No, they want to try for the Presidency right off the bat and they wil continue to fail that way!

AlmostThere
07-03-2009, 07:37 PM
Third Party runs for President are a farce. It takes a third party at least 20 years to really be viable and that is starting from the bottom with Congressional maybe a Senate seat or two. No, they want to try for the Presidency right off the bat and they wil continue to fail that way!
Normally I'd agree with that analysis, but I think we are in extraordinary times. I think people may finally start to consider the candidate regardless of their party affiliation. I have to believe there are millions of moderate Democrats with buyer's remorse. Conservative Republicans were in no hurry to support McCain until he chose Palin. We are halfway through 2009. Who in the Republican party is ready to step up to the national ticket in time? Whether it's Palin or someone else, I think a third party candidate has a realistic shot in 2012.

Texas Terrier
07-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Rick Sanchez: Maybe Palin is Pregnant again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kaHuQdTJ5A

What an idiot

MrsSmith
07-03-2009, 07:39 PM
She probably has to find a way to make more money. She's what, $50,000 in hole defending herself against bogus lawsuits from some liberal {female dog.}

I'd have to say, though, after all the hatred poured upon her by the "tolerant and loving" left, if she ran for President, she more than deserves to win.

AlmostThere
07-03-2009, 09:02 PM
She probably has to find a way to make more money. She's what, $50,000 in hole defending herself against bogus lawsuits from some liberal {female dog.}

I'd have to say, though, after all the hatred poured upon her by the "tolerant and loving" left, if she ran for President, she more than deserves to win.

I don't know if that was a typo, but I think I heard 500K.

satanica
07-03-2009, 09:33 PM
There is something very damaging coming out in the near future for her. It is easier to resign in this manner, than in a national spot light with the allegations hanging over your head. ...maybe a 40% chance this is the reason.

Second possible reason...

She knows she can't win a general election, and knows if she does run and get creamed, she will end up like Fred or Rudy ..a complete failure and disapointment, and her stock will drop considerably. She can strike while the iron is hot and bank on speeches , appearences, books, ect. right now. She would be making this move for the money....30% for this one.

Third reason...

In some twisted way, she thinks this will position her for the 2012 election. This thought would be absurd because she just crucified Obama for not having enough experience, and now will run as a less than 1 term Gov. ?? ...The only way this move could pay off in the general electionis if she disappears and gets educated on EVERYTHING ...as we all saw, she wasn't near ready for the big time ...she should start with what the Bush doctrine is .....25%

Forth reason ...

She is really done with all of it. 5%


I guess my money is on a big story dropping soon, at 40%

Rockntractor
07-03-2009, 09:54 PM
There is something very damaging coming out in the near future for her. It is easier to resign in this manner, than in a national spot light with the allegations hanging over your head. ...maybe a 40% chance this is the reason.

Second possible reason...

She knows she can't win a general election, and knows if she does run and get creamed, she will end up like Fred or Rudy ..a complete failure and disapointment, and her stock will drop considerably. She can strike while the iron is hot and bank on speeches , appearences, books, ect. right now. She would be making this move for the money....30% for this one.

Third reason...

In some twisted way, she thinks this will position her for the 2012 election. This thought would be absurd because she just crucified Obama for not having enough experience, and now will run as a less than 1 term Gov. ?? ...The only way this move could pay off in the general electionis if she disappears and gets educated on EVERYTHING ...as we all saw, she wasn't near ready for the big time ...she should start with what the Bush doctrine is .....25%

Forth reason ...

She is really done with all of it. 5%


I guess my money is on a big story dropping soon, at 40%
You don't have money your a fraud.

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 10:03 PM
Remember what I told you guys John Ziegler said that the viewing of his documentary I attended-When he interviewed her, he got the feeling that she'd bow out of politics completely because the media was still up in Wasilla just ravaging her and her family. There's no way a decent person can be a politician. Wasilla was her only chance at succeeding as one, because she didn't have to be a Washington insider-those creeps would sell their own grandmother for votes. I don't think she would.

I think this is probably the case. The media has been relentless and have crucified her. (They crucified Hillary Clinton in the 90s. but they are now quiet about her since Barry Dunham (Opps, Barack OblAHBLAH) has sent her off to the State Department and out of the country.)

I think her daughter and that dick David Letterman were probably the last straw.

satanica
07-03-2009, 10:11 PM
I think this is probably the case. The media has been relentless and have crucified her. (They crucified Hillary Clinton in the 90s. but they are now quiet about her since Barry Dunham (Opps, Barack OblAHBLAH) has sent her off to the State Department and out of the country.)

I think her daughter and that dick David Letterman were probably the last straw.


If this IS the case, the McCain and the GOP made a very reckless decesion when they put her so close to the WH.

She can't take the wittle teeny weeny media in tiny whiney Wasilla, but was suppose to be ready for ...not only our national media, but a world wide stage ?

This would prove she was no where near ready to handle the pressure of being VP or POTUS

Elspeth
07-03-2009, 10:25 PM
If this IS the case, the McCain and the GOP made a very reckless decesion when they put her so close to the WH.

She can't take the wittle teeny weeny media in tiny whiney Wasilla, but was suppose to be ready for ...not only our national media, but a world wide stage ?

This would prove she was no where near ready to handle the pressure of being VP or POTUS

Satanica,

I don't know who you are, but clearly you are incapable of factual knowledge.


She can't take the wittle teeny weeny media in tiny whiney Wasilla, but was suppose to be ready for ...not only our national media, but a world wide stage ?

Since when has "Vanity Fair" (1) become strictly Wassilla media? How about the Huffington Post? US Magazine, the New York Daily News, etc.? (2) And I am sure that David Letterman only airs in Alaska, correct?

In other words, Satanita, the media that is hounding her IS the national media. The local media has neither the interest nor the resources in the type of witch hunt that has been perpetrated on her. The attack consists of unfounded ethics charges, one after the other, which have driven the Palins into 1/2 a million in debt to defend the governor. They have bled her dry.

I can understand leaving under those circumstances. If she finished her term, she could be $1million in debt and no closer to the White House, especially with Vanity Fair hit pieces coming out. Sometimes, you just have to protect your family, especially with young children.



(1) http://http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908?printable=true&currentPage=all

(2)http://search.cnn.com/search.jsp?query=Palin%20Bristol%20baby%20father&type=web&sortBy=date&intl=false

lacarnut
07-03-2009, 11:44 PM
If this IS the case, the McCain and the GOP made a very reckless decesion when they put her so close to the WH.

She can't take the wittle teeny weeny media in tiny whiney Wasilla, but was suppose to be ready for ...not only our national media, but a world wide stage ?

This would prove she was no where near ready to handle the pressure of being VP or POTUS


Dumb ass liberals should focus on how the Magic Negro is screwing up the country. Where are all the jobs this dip-shit was supposed to create. 467,000 lost last month. When he took office the unemployment rate was around 5%; now it is at 9.5. This moron is a job killer. Cap and trade and health care will prevent new business from opening or expanding. You idiots on the left don't understand that increasing taxes is a job killer.

We will see what the future holds for Gov. Palin. One thing she does not need is advise from liberals. You need to turn your attention to that idiot in the W.H.

satanica
07-04-2009, 08:20 AM
The fact remains.

When the republicans said Sarah could handle the pressure and was ready for the WH ...they couldn't have been more wrong.

They were 100% wrong.

Japandroid
07-04-2009, 08:38 AM
She quit, you cant spin that any other way. I for one am not a big fan of people who just give up when things aren't going the way they want them to.

But she really never belonged on the national (and to an extent global) stage anyways. She wasn't educated enough to back up her intolerable arrogance and she was repeatedly called out on it. I remember back in the fall excitedly waiting for the next bit of the Couric interview to come out to see how much of a fool she had made of herself. It was never about destroying women in politics or the made-up "liberal bias" in media, she was a spectacle and eventually a joke.

The reasoning behind this is strange though, it's fairly easy to slip into the unknown if you're from Alaska. Ted Stevens barely got a mention for his corruption charges compared to when Blagojevich topped the headlines. The first thing you have to think is corruption, she's always been a little bit too fond of oil companies. Wont be that damaging to the Republican party, 50% of the country already wont vote for her and there's no way she could win a Presidential primary.

I say good riddance for everyone, no more Palin! Whoohoo!

Japandroid
07-04-2009, 08:43 AM
"We are goin' into crisis-mode here"

satanica
07-04-2009, 08:54 AM
She quit, you cant spin that any other way. I for one am not a big fan of people who just give up when things aren't going the way they want them to.

But she really never belonged on the national (and to an extent global) stage anyways. She wasn't educated enough to back up her intolerable arrogance and she was repeatedly called out on it. I remember back in the fall excitedly waiting for the next bit of the Couric interview to come out to see how much of a fool she had made of herself. It was never about destroying women in politics or the made-up "liberal bias" in media, she was a spectacle and eventually a joke.

The reasoning behind this is strange though, it's fairly easy to slip into the unknown if you're from Alaska. Ted Stevens barely got a mention for his corruption charges compared to when Blagojevich topped the headlines. The first thing you have to think is corruption, she's always been a little bit too fond of oil companies. Wont be that damaging to the Republican party, 50% of the country already wont vote for her and there's no way she could win a Presidential primary.

I say good riddance for everyone, no more Palin! Whoohoo!


I agree, that traitor is on her was to jail.

Lars1701a
07-04-2009, 09:10 AM
It looks like both douche bags are teaming up for what I like to call a "retarded tag team"

djones520
07-04-2009, 09:11 AM
I agree, that traitor is on her was to jail.

I'm sure they'll toss her in next to Cheney and Bush. :rolleyes:

SarasotaRepub
07-04-2009, 09:15 AM
I agree, that traitor is on her was to jail.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks Super, I always like a good chuckle in the morning. :D

lacarnut
07-04-2009, 09:26 AM
The reasoning behind this is strange though, it's fairly easy to slip into the unknown if you're from Alaska. Ted Stevens barely got a mention for his corruption charges compared to when Blagojevich topped the headlines. The first thing you have to think is corruption, she's always been a little bit too fond of oil companies. Wont be that damaging to the Republican party, 50% of the country already wont vote for her and there's no way she could win a Presidential primary.

I say good riddance for everyone, no more Palin! Whoohoo!

You realy are a lame brain dunce. Steven was exonerated of all charges because Obama found that there was prosecutorial evidence of misconduct on the part of the Justice Department.

Palin on the other hand is going to run in 012 and is going kick the O's ass. It will be a blowout because the amateur in the W.H. is going to screwing up the economy with more and more taxes. Unemployment will be up to 15% and whomever the Repubs put up will be able to beat your Mickey Mouse candidate.

Japandroid
07-04-2009, 09:44 AM
Palin was already a loser, but now she's a quitter. Her political career is completely finished, you should be celebrating this but probably wont understand how beneficial it will be for your cause for a few years.

Lager
07-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Palin was already a loser, but now she's a quitter. Her political career is completely finished, you should be celebrating this but probably wont understand how beneficial it will be for your cause for a few years.

Like most libs, you can't help but stay in the "pile on any republican" mode that you just spent the last eight years in. You've got more important things to worry about than Palin. Your party now has the WH and a super majority in congress. Now the country is going to follow every move you guys make, and expect some results after all the rhetoric and criticism.

Lars1701a
07-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Like most libs, you can't help but stay in the "pile on any republican" mode that you just spent the last eight years in. You've got more important things to worry about than Palin. Your party now has the WH and a super majority in congress. Now the country is going to follow every move you guys make, and expect some results after all the rhetoric and criticism.

I just wonder how the Dems are going to spin disaster and turn it on the Republicans. This should be fun to watch./

MrsSmith
07-04-2009, 11:12 AM
If this IS the case, the McCain and the GOP made a very reckless decesion when they put her so close to the WH.

She can't take the wittle teeny weeny media in tiny whiney Wasilla, but was suppose to be ready for ...not only our national media, but a world wide stage ?

This would prove she was no where near ready to handle the pressure of being VP or POTUS

I've seen you make a lot of really stupid posts, but you still contrive to outdo yourself at every oppotunity. You only excuse for this post would be if you were in a coma all through the last election. :rolleyes:

MrsSmith
07-04-2009, 11:14 AM
She quit, you cant spin that any other way. I for one am not a big fan of people who just give up when things aren't going the way they want them to.

But she really never belonged on the national (and to an extent global) stage anyways. She wasn't educated enough to back up her intolerable arrogance and she was repeatedly called out on it. I remember back in the fall excitedly waiting for the next bit of the Couric interview to come out to see how much of a fool she had made of herself. It was never about destroying women in politics or the made-up "liberal bias" in media, she was a spectacle and eventually a joke.

The reasoning behind this is strange though, it's fairly easy to slip into the unknown if you're from Alaska. Ted Stevens barely got a mention for his corruption charges compared to when Blagojevich topped the headlines. The first thing you have to think is corruption, she's always been a little bit too fond of oil companies. Wont be that damaging to the Republican party, 50% of the country already wont vote for her and there's no way she could win a Presidential primary.

I say good riddance for everyone, no more Palin! Whoohoo!
Obviously, you made up whatever you use for a mind without even glancing at any of the facts. The next time you're tempted to open your mouth and stuff both feet in, perhaps you should consider doing a little research first. Dirty feet are not good for your throat.

hazlnut
07-04-2009, 11:21 AM
Oblahblah's people put her through hell. I know that. (As if the Chicago politician without a resume didn't have any skeletons.)

But, this was so sudden. Something's really off.

Read the Vanity Fair article -- McCain's people had to work overtime to help her appear ready for the national scene. She was not an easy person to deal with, according to the article.

There were some follow up pieces that featured an email exchange during the campaign--they did not not paint a very flattering picture.

BadCat
07-04-2009, 11:23 AM
Read the Vanity Fair article -- McCain's people had to work overtime to help her appear ready for the national scene. She was not an easy person to deal with, according to the article.

There were some follow up pieces that featured an email exchange during the campaign--they did not not paint a very flattering picture.

Why am I not surprised you read Vanity Fair?

Elspeth
07-04-2009, 12:17 PM
Why am I not surprised you read Vanity Fair?

I actually read the article and it seemed like typical post-election snark to me. There are always people from the losing campaign who have to vent their petty grievances, and these folks are usually not gutsy enough to have the complaints labeled as their own. Hence the many "unnamed sources" in the Vanity Fair article.

hazlnut
07-04-2009, 12:39 PM
I keep hearing how Palin was unfairly 'attacked' by MSM. Pundits, commentators, bloggers, sure... but straight news running a clip of her speaking...? I don't see it.

Couric is known to be left leaning, but when she asked, what do you read to get better informed, how was that 'attacking'? And when Couric asked Palin to name one other supreme court case besides Roe v Wade -- (anybody who graduated High School can do that) Palin couldn't answer. What exactly was Couric attacking?

When the RNC leaked info to press about Palin's behavior, lack-of knowledge, spending sprees, etc behind the scenes and the press reported on it, what were they 'attacking'????

Commentators and pundits criticize policy and politicians--you can call this 'attacking'--as long as you admit that it goes both ways (Rush-Hannity/ Olbermann-Maddow), but, when mainstream news interviews Palin or runs a video clip of her speaking, and the public responds--that's how it works.

I watched her speak, I listened to the interviews, I did not get a sense that she was a very bright or competent person. I didn't need a pundit, commentator, or blogger to tell me this. My opinion was based on just hearing her speak and respond to questions. No one had to 'attack' Palin for me to see her as an example of the Peter Principal in politics. (people rising to the level of their incompetency)

Palin is a very politically ambitious person; unfortunately her intellect does not support those ambitions.

Lager
07-04-2009, 12:55 PM
It wasn't that the media was unfair toward Palin, but that they wouldn't have done the same thing to a liberal dem with the same level of experience as her. It's obvious that Palin wasn't prepared for what she was up against, and didn't do a very good job of answering the questions. But the point is that the questions Palin was asked were specifically designed to this. We have a free press in this country, so if that's there agenda, that's fair enough, I just have to ask if they would have done the same thing to a liberal male politician in the same case. I think a lot of people in the media were pleased as punch that there was no social conservative in the race, that is until she showed up. The reaction after her convention speech scared many on the left and I think they were all too happy to tear her down quickly.

lacarnut
07-04-2009, 12:57 PM
I keep hearing how Palin was unfairly 'attacked' by MSM. Pundits, commentators, bloggers, sure... but straight news running a clip of her speaking...? I don't see it.

Couric is known to be left leaning, but when she asked, what do you read to get better informed, how was that 'attacking'? And when Couric asked Palin to name one other supreme court case besides Roe v Wade -- (anybody who graduated High School can do that) Palin couldn't answer. What exactly was Couric attacking?

When the RNC leaked info to press about Palin's behavior, lack-of knowledge, spending sprees, etc behind the scenes and the press reported on it, what were they 'attacking'????

Commentators and pundits criticize policy and politicians--you can call this 'attacking'--as long as you admit that it goes both ways (Rush-Hannity/ Olbermann-Maddow), but, when mainstream news interviews Palin or runs a video clip of her speaking, and the public responds--that's how it works.

I watched her speak, I listened to the interviews, I did not get a sense that she was a very bright or competent person. I didn't need a pundit, commentator, or blogger to tell me this. My opinion was based on just hearing her speak and respond to questions. No one had to 'attack' Palin for me to see her as an example of the Peter Principal in politics. (people rising to the level of their incompetency)

Palin is a very politically ambitious person; unfortunately her intellect does not support those ambitions.

Lets see; even a partisan dickhead like you should be able to understand the following.

Obama--had been running for Prez for 2 years-----Palin was cast into it overnight

Obama--I have visited 57 states and um 1 to go. All of the gaffs that Palin made does not compare to a dumb shit that does not know how many states in the union. The Magic Negro is proving that he is not only incompetent but is a dumb ass and a liar to boot. When the teleprompter goes out, this dimwit is in deep shit. He does this uh, um, oh, crap what do I do next, you'll understand. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Obama has lied about energy, lied about lobbyist and lied about taxing only the rich.

Why are idiots like you and your frothing at the mouth liberals so scared of a good looking, articulate conservative lady Gov. She scares the shit out of you elitists left wing liberals.

PoliCon
07-04-2009, 01:03 PM
If there are any left---decent people. I had a request for money from McCain. I deleted it instantly. Next time, I'm going to reply that my donation for his next campaign will be coming when hell freezes over.

In an article on Charter, Palin had commented that some meanspirited people were even making fun of her little Downs Syndrome baby. People might say she needs to be thicker skinned, but the attacks that have been made on her are well beyond the normal political comments. :rolleyes:

Attacks on Palin's kids: ok. Attacks on Obama's little mistakes: unforgivable! :rolleyes: Gotta love the MSM.

PoliCon
07-04-2009, 01:08 PM
Read the Vanity Fair article -- McCain's people had to work overtime to help her appear ready for the national scene. She was not an easy person to deal with, according to the article.

There were some follow up pieces that featured an email exchange during the campaign--they did not not paint a very flattering picture.

vanity fair is such a bastion of objective journalism . . . . :rolleyes:

The press have been dead set on smearing her since she was named to the ticket. They did more research into her in a few days than they have done into Obama since he started running for Senate! :rolleyes:

stsinner
07-04-2009, 01:09 PM
What does knowing about other Supreme Court cases mean, exactly? How will that influence her actions as VP when they have scores of lawyers and advisors at their disposal that ensure they are doing only legal stuff in line with the precedents set by the SC (Until Obama who does whatever the hell he wants, illegal, unconstitutional or not.)

And what the hell does it matter what or whether she reads? Couric was just trying to make her look like an idiot.. I don't read one newspaper and only Car and Driver, but simply going to Drudge and Fark I know more than the average citizen about politics and current events.. All I care to know, even. Couric was just being catty, and we all know it.

PoliCon
07-04-2009, 01:10 PM
I keep hearing how Palin was unfairly 'attacked' by MSM. Pundits, commentators, bloggers, sure... but straight news running a clip of her speaking...? I don't see it.You don't see it because you just plain don't WANT to see it. As usual - you have blinded yourself to reality insisting that the emperor is wearing clothes. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
07-04-2009, 01:12 PM
What does knowing about other Supreme Court cases mean, exactly? How will that influence her actions as VP when they have scores of lawyers and advisors at their disposal that ensure they are doing only legal stuff in line with the precedents set by the SC (Until Obama who does whatever the hell he wants, illegal, unconstitutional or not.)

And what the hell does it matter what or whether she reads? Couric was just trying to make her look like an idiot.. I don't read one newspaper and only Car and Driver, but simply going to Drudge and Fark I know more than the average citizen about politics and current events.. All I care to know, even. Couric was just being catty, and we all know it.

By the time that Couric asked that question - Palin was on UBER defensive - backed into a corner.

BadCat
07-04-2009, 01:15 PM
By the time that Couric asked that question - Palin was on UBER defensive - backed into a corner.

I think that Sarah deserves some kind of sainthood for the way she handled herself.

Had they done that shit to my wife, she would have fed them their own intestines.

Elspeth
07-04-2009, 01:35 PM
You don't see it because you just plain don't WANT to see it. As usual - you have blinded yourself to reality insisting that the emperor is wearing clothes. :rolleyes:

Actually, there were many liberal women, like myself, who were appalled at the way Sarah Palin was attacked in the press, especially on gender-oriented grounds. To have that great "liberal" Larry Flint come out and say she looked like a "naughty secretary" and sponsor the making of some porn flick about her; to have the cable news channels question everything she wore; to have her underage (at the time) pregnant daughter be the constant butt of jokes; to (recently) have her other, even younger daughter be the butt of a bad Letterman joke about getting "knocked up" by an adult male ball player.

These are not normal kinds of attacks, ie the kinds of attacks you see on men. Where is the Mark Sanford porn video? I notice that the Elliot Spitzer flick has never appeared either.

These kinds of sexually based attacks are reserved for female candidates. Hillary went through them, Condi went through them, but Palin, who ran for office with a young family in tow, got the brunt of it.

PoliCon
07-04-2009, 01:36 PM
Actually, there were many liberal women, like myself, who were appalled at the way Sarah Palin was attacked in the press, especially on gender-oriented grounds. To have that great "liberal" Larry Flint come out and say she looked like a "naughty secretary" and sponsor the making of some porn flick about her; to have the cable news channels question everything she wore; to have her underage (at the time) pregnant daughter be the constant butt of jokes; to (recently) have her other, even younger daughter be the butt of a bad Letterman joke about getting "knocked up" by an adult male ball player.

These are not normal kinds of attacks, ie the kinds of attacks you see on men. Where is the Mark Sanford porn video? I notice that the Elliot Spitzer flick has never appeared either.

These kinds of sexually based attacks are reserved for female candidates. Hillary went through them, Condi went through them, but Palin, who ran for office with a young family in tow, got the brunt of it.

Good point.

Japandroid
07-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Everything about Sarah Palin revolved around people justifying how terrible she was with victimization and constant whining. For a long time those the lack of those two things from the Republican Party were a great reprieve for many Americans over liberals who've made careers out of bitching about everything.

That's not the Republican Party anymore though I guess, they've joined the Democrats in a contest of who can be the biggest whimps. If Sarah Palin felt like she was getting attacked she'd better get used to it, that's national politics... if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen and get somebody else out there who is more capable.

lacarnut
07-04-2009, 09:00 PM
Everything about Sarah Palin revolved around people justifying how terrible she was with victimization and constant whining. For a long time those the lack of those two things from the Republican Party were a great reprieve for many Americans over liberals who've made careers out of bitching about everything.

That's not the Republican Party anymore though I guess, they've joined the Democrats in a contest of who can be the biggest whimps. If Sarah Palin felt like she was getting attacked she'd better get used to it, that's national politics... if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen and get somebody else out there who is more capable.

I would suggest that you should let the Repubs worry about who will or who will not be the leader of the Repub. party but that would be out of character for a partisans like you. You hate her and she scares the crap out of mindless retards in the Democratic party. If that were not true, there would not be so many lefties getting their bowels in an uproar.

SarasotaRepub
07-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Not to worry, Jeb Bu$h, of BFEE fame will come in and save the day in 2012. :D

Texas Terrier
07-04-2009, 09:25 PM
I would suggest that you should let the Repubs worry about who will or who will not be the leader of the Repub. party but that would be out of character for a partisans like you. You hate her and she scares the crap out of mindless retards in the Democratic party. If that were not true, there would not be so many lefties getting their bowels in an uproar.

Dems wouldn't have released a statement describing how Palin was "leaving the people of Alaska high and dry...or she simply can't handle the job now" if they didn't consider her a threat.

Rockntractor
07-04-2009, 09:36 PM
For a long time those the lack of those two things from the Republican Party were a great reprieve for many Americans over liberals who've made careers out of bitching about everything.


Come on Jappy that’s not readable. A hotshot city boy with a diploma can do better than that.

Lanie
07-05-2009, 01:48 AM
Not to worry, Jeb Bu$h, of BFEE fame will come in and save the day in 2012. :D

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!

No more Bushes. No more Clintons. :(

Japandroid
07-05-2009, 03:50 AM
Come on Jappy that’s not readable. A hotshot city boy with a diploma can do better than that.

Oh no, an extra "those" accidentally misplaced! What a failure my liberal education must have been :rolleyes:

lacarnut
07-05-2009, 07:40 AM
Oh no, an extra "those" accidentally misplaced! What a failure my liberal education must have been :rolleyes:

Looks like the shoe fits in this case.

lacarnut
07-05-2009, 07:42 AM
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!

No more Bushes. No more Clintons. :(

You have got that right. Third time will NOT be a charm.

lacarnut
07-05-2009, 08:23 AM
I think that Sarah deserves some kind of sainthood for the way she handled herself.



True dat. Even Joe Biden stated on ABC Sunday that he respected her decison to step down and did not to want to second guess her reason. That shows class on his part opposed to scumbags like Japandroid.

Bubba Dawg
07-05-2009, 11:56 AM
There is much speculation on this issue, so I may as well join in.

I was shocked by Governor Sarah palin's announcement that she not only would not run for reelection as Alaska's governor but would also step down as the sitting governor of Alaska.

My first thought was that some sort of scandal or bad news about to be revealed. I suppose that is possible, but I then considered it as a political strategy.

So much speculation is about the presidential race in 2012. What about the race in 2016? If she ran for president in 2016 it would be a race against a non-incumbent president (President Biden, anyone?).

The question is, what could Sarah Palin do between now and 2016 to stay in the public eye and gain in perceived ability on the national level?

Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski is running for re-election in 2010. If Palin chose to run against Murkowski (who is a Republican) she may consider Murkowski to be beatable and that this could be an avenue to national office which could give her national exposure.

Again, speculation on my part, but I'm trying to make sense of it all.

PoliCon
07-05-2009, 09:05 PM
I'm not going to speculate at all - I'm going to wait and see.

Japandroid
07-05-2009, 09:32 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/marko358/palin.jpg

That is how a majority of Americans view Sarah Palin.

Japandroid
07-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Oh, and Palin's lawyers are threatening to sue everyone who writes something bad about her.

lacarnut
07-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Oh, and Palin's lawyers are threatening to sue everyone who writes something bad about her.

Hey Fool, look up the word Libel!

Elspeth
07-05-2009, 10:47 PM
Hey Fool, look up the word Libel!

She should sue if she can. Maybe the press will start checking every speculative piece of crap they utter if they get enough lawsuits.

hazlnut
07-06-2009, 12:10 AM
She should sue if she can. Maybe the press will start checking every speculative piece of crap they utter if they get enough lawsuits.

Speculation, though contrary to good journalistic practices, is generally not libel. Fox News innovated the 'some say' or 'some people believe' technique to interject speculation into straight news--others (CNN, MSNBC) now copy that trend.

The debunking by the FBI of the indictment rumors has gotten good coverage all day. The rumor never got further than the blogs and far-left fringe 'news'.

Palin's lawyers are doing a bit of legal posturing--there is no case here.

Rockntractor
07-06-2009, 12:16 AM
Speculation, though contrary to good journalistic practices, is generally not libel. Fox News innovated the 'some say' or 'some people believe' technique to interject speculation into straight news--others (CNN, MSNBC) now copy that trend.

The debunking by the FBI of the indictment rumors has gotten good coverage all day. The rumor never got further than the blogs and far-left fringe 'news'.

Palin's lawyers are doing a bit of legal posturing--there is no case here.

I think that started with Walter Cronkite. He was the first I noticed to mix editorial with news reporting.

hazlnut
07-06-2009, 05:18 PM
I think that started with Walter Cronkite. He was the first I noticed to mix editorial with news reporting.

Yes, he did bring editorial to television news, but he most often did this at the end of a broadcast by turning to a third camera, setting his news copy aside, and changing the tone his voice. He introduced his editorial with things like: "It is the opinion of this broadcaster...".

The old school newsmen like Cronkite and Hal Fishman (who's still on in L.A.) always made it clear when they were breaking from the reporting of news to give their own opinion.

Nowadays, the 'some say' method of reporting anonymous opinions as facts has totally blurred that line. Next to you watch or listen to the news--you'll hear it: "Some in the democratic party are saying this..." or "People at the GOP are saying that..." They have stopped naming sources for quotes. This is totally different than saying: "Senator so-and-so released a statement..." that's sourced material.

The ironic thing that happened over the weekend is that because Palin's lawyers fired off the letters on Saturday, the indictment rumors then became an actual story--before the letters it was just on the far-left blog fringe. Now, everyone has reported what the rumors were and that they are not true 'so far'...

BadCat
07-06-2009, 08:01 PM
I think that started with Walter Cronkite. He was the first I noticed to mix editorial with news reporting.

Ah, Cronkite, the first of the American Communist "journalists".

lacarnut
07-06-2009, 08:02 PM
Speculation, though contrary to good journalistic practices, is generally not libel. Fox News innovated the 'some say' or 'some people believe' technique to interject speculation into straight news--others (CNN, MSNBC) now copy that trend.

The debunking by the FBI of the indictment rumors has gotten good coverage all day. The rumor never got further than the blogs and far-left fringe 'news'.

Palin's lawyers are doing a bit of legal posturing--there is no case here.

Bad journalistic practices with malicious intent =====Libel in my opinion.
Just a warning to these scumbags who have brought up a bunch of lawsuits without any merit. Time to turn the tables on them. Now that she is a Private citizen, it's a different ballgame.

noonwitch
07-07-2009, 08:46 AM
I've been out of touch for a long weekend, but when I first heard this, I wondered if she or someone in her family was facing an illness or something of that nature.


If she had already served a whole term as governor and was going to run for president in 2012, it was not the best move. If she's planning to challenge the senator, maybe it's not such a bad move, if she's eyeing a 2016 presidential run.

lacarnut
07-07-2009, 10:12 AM
I've been out of touch for a long weekend, but when I first heard this, I wondered if she or someone in her family was facing an illness or something of that nature.


If she had already served a whole term as governor and was going to run for president in 2012, it was not the best move. If she's planning to challenge the senator, maybe it's not such a bad move, if she's eyeing a 2016 presidential run.

The media, liberals and McCain lovers are making a big deal out of it. We have two (2) Governors that QUIT their jobs to work for Obama. If it is plausible to state that she has hurt her state by this action, why is not the reverse true of these other two governors. Seems like we have a bunch of hypocrites out there. Also, Obama did not perform his Senate duties while running for Prez. So the case can be made he reneged on his duties as a US Senator.

Also, I have yet to get an answer from Linda #, Nuts, Satan, liberals and other Palin bashers what would they do if they had a mountain of debt ($500,000), the media bashing her and her family including children, spending time and money to defend frivolous lawsuits, etc. I guess they are too chickenshit or don't have the mental capacity to place themselves in that position.

BadCat
07-07-2009, 11:13 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/marko358/palin.jpg

That is how a majority of Americans view Sarah Palin.

Fuck you shitstain.

linda22003
07-07-2009, 11:17 AM
Lacarnut, I already answered your question to the limit of my interest. I don't know how I qualify as a "basher", just because I haven't indicated overt support. I did vote for the McCain ticket in November.

lacarnut
07-07-2009, 11:47 AM
Lacarnut, I already answered your question to the limit of my interest. I don't know how I qualify as a "basher", just because I haven't indicated overt support. I did vote for the McCain ticket in November.

A half assed answer in my opinion. If I were in her shoes, I would say fuck it and do what's best for me and my family. I certainly would not want to be straddled with a half a millions dollars worth of debt. I guess I have more compassion than those pissants that have no opinion one way or the other or who like to pile on.
You could call me a quitter and I could call the 2 governors who quit to take a position in the Obama Admin. quitters also. Just does not work that way with the liberal snobs in the media, does it? I also think it is admirable of her to think of her state and what it has cost in terms of money and time responding to these lawsuits. A scarity among politicans for sure.

linda22003
07-07-2009, 11:50 AM
If I were in her shoes, I would say fuck it and do what's best for me and my family.

She has every right to do that. She also recognizes that it makes a future political career more difficult, I'm sure.


You could call me a quitter and I could call the 2 governors who quit to take a position in the Obama Admin. quitters also.

It's not an analagous situation, since a call from any president to serve in his administration in some capacity is considered a call to be answered, if at all possible.

lacarnut
07-07-2009, 12:07 PM
She has every right to do that. She also recognizes that it makes a future political career more difficult, I'm sure.



It's not an analagous situation, since a call from any president to serve in his administration in some capacity is considered a call to be answered, if at all possible.

I disagree on both counts. Do you or Karl R. have a crystal ball that tell you that? I think it makes it much easier for her but we will see. She will be a major player in politics.

Secondly, the situation is exactly the same in the respect that all 3 Governors have QUIT their jobs that the citizens of their state have put their trust in, and have abandoned their job duties that were entrusted to them by the elctorate. What you are saying is that it is okay to quit if the Prez makes the call but if you do it for any other reasons it is not okay. I say that is rather narrow minded bs.

I would also like to add that Bush did not veto a single spending bill until his final year in office. In other words, he spent like a drunken sailor and both of them (K.R.) kept their stupid mouth's shut when the Democrats bashed them on a daily basis. No more of this compassionate conservative for me. So I don't have much use for Rove or any of the blue blood Rockefeller Northeastern establishment so called Republicians politicians or media types.

linda22003
07-07-2009, 12:20 PM
Re the governors: I'm giving not my own opinion, but what has been accepted political "etiquette" in Washington for decades. Robert McNamara had just been appointed president of Ford Motor Co. by a few weeks, when Kennedy called on him to become SECDEF. It's not my personal opinion that this is the way it "has to be" , but the accepted form.

lacarnut
07-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Re the governors: I'm giving not my own opinion, but what has been accepted political "etiquette" in Washington for decades. Robert McNamara had just been appointed president of Ford Motor Co. by a few weeks, when Kennedy called on him to become SECDEF. It's not my personal opinion that this is the way it "has to be" , but the accepted form.

Like assholes eveyone has got an opinion; I happen to believe that political etiquette is a term that only a retarded politican could come up with. No wonder these dunces in DC have gotten this country so f. up and on the verge of bankruptcy.

BadCat
07-07-2009, 12:42 PM
No more of this compassionate conservative for me. So I don't have much use for Rove or any of the blue blood Rockefeller Northeastern establishment so called Republicians politicians or media types

Ditto.

lacarnut
07-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Ditto.

People like Bush, Rove, McCain, Wills and all the other dickheads Repubs who pile on Palin should go f. themselves. They screwed up the Repub party, and now it will take someone like Palin or Haley Barbour to turn the tide and fix it. Real conservatives should wise up and not listen to people like Powell and those Northeastern Repubs.

noonwitch
07-07-2009, 02:36 PM
The media, liberals and McCain lovers are making a big deal out of it. We have two (2) Governors that QUIT their jobs to work for Obama. If it is plausible to state that she has hurt her state by this action, why is not the reverse true of these other two governors. Seems like we have a bunch of hypocrites out there. Also, Obama did not perform his Senate duties while running for Prez. So the case can be made he reneged on his duties as a US Senator.

Also, I have yet to get an answer from Linda #, Nuts, Satan, liberals and other Palin bashers what would they do if they had a mountain of debt ($500,000), the media bashing her and her family including children, spending time and money to defend frivolous lawsuits, etc. I guess they are too chickenshit or don't have the mental capacity to place themselves in that position.


I stay out of the personal attacks on her. I might not like her policies, but I don't like it when females are attacked on issues that male candidates are never attacked about-like their kids or wardrobes. The media tore her apart like they tried to do to Hillary (who is older and more experienced at handling the media than Sarah is). I didn't like the attacks regarding her then pregnant daughter, and I was particularly disgusted to see posters at DU imply that her youngest child was possibly that of her daughter.

I think that if she wasn't pretty, they wouldn't attack her so fiercely. If she was ugly or fat, they'd attack her for those things and leave the rest alone.

lacarnut
07-07-2009, 03:12 PM
I stay out of the personal attacks on her. I might not like her policies, but I don't like it when females are attacked on issues that male candidates are never attacked about-like their kids or wardrobes. The media tore her apart like they tried to do to Hillary (who is older and more experienced at handling the media than Sarah is). I didn't like the attacks regarding her then pregnant daughter, and I was particularly disgusted to see posters at DU imply that her youngest child was possibly that of her daughter.

.

No shit and I whole heartly agree. You know, there are men and a few women out there that would never vote for a woman. That really pisses me off. I think the blue blood yankee Rockefeller Repubs. turned on her during the election when it became apparent that Obama was going to win and then continued the bashing afterwards. They had to blame someone like pathetic politicians usually do rather than look in the mirror at themselves. The old ugly stupid liberal bitch that was on Fox should be ashamed of herself.

Elspeth
07-07-2009, 03:48 PM
The press can't even leave her alone now that she is gone: (And they compare her to Nixon, even though she did nothing wrong!)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/07/sarah-palin-to-andrea-mitchell-youre-not-listening-to-me.html



Sarah Palin reclaims her inner fisherwoman: 'Politically, if I die, I die. So be it.'

The governor of Alaska went fishing Monday, wearing those waders with suspenders that fishermen fancy, accompanied by her baby, Trig, daughter Piper and her husband, First Dude for a Few More Weeks Todd Palin. Oh, and she alerted the media.

What a spectacle -- the stars of America's cable news personalities from Fox, NBC, CNN, ABC meeting the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on the shores of Kanakanak Beach in Dillingham, Ala., while the governor brushed salmon slime off her suspenders and blasted the media, bloggers and anyone who would dare question her politically bizarre decision to quit in the middle of her first term.

To Fox, she expressed bitterness at those who peppered her with ethics accusations, saying that their ridiculous charges had nearly bankrupted her family and brought Alaska's government to a grinding halt. "The critics want to put you on a course of personal bankruptcy so you can't afford to serve," she said, calling the attacks "bull crap."

She was coy about her plans for 2012, musing that it was difficult to know what the political future would hold, let alone the next salmon run. But she was quick to criticize President Obama. As she led reporters in a boat across Bristol Bay, she opined, "Average, hard-working Americans need to be able to get out there, unrestrained, and fight for what is right. Fight for energy independence and national security, fight for a smaller government instead of this big government overgrowth that Obama is ushering in."

As the Ticket noted over the weekend, Palin has a tendency to sound like former President Richard Nixon, who intoned in the middle of the Watergate scandal, "I am not a crook." Three days after resigning as governor of Alaska, effective at month's end, Palin told CNN, "I am not a quitter. I am a fighter."

She told ABC she's pleased with her decision, damn the consequences. “I’m extremely happy," she said. "Politically speaking, if I die, I die. So be it.”

And when NBC's Andrea Mitchell said that some would say she didn't finish the job, Palin's voice rose. "You're not listening to me as to why I wouldn't be able to finish that final year in office without it costing the state millions of dollars and countless hours of wasted time," she snapped.


Is it possible that this woman quit for the good of her state? It certainly sounds like that.

SarasotaRepub
07-07-2009, 06:58 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/marko358/palin.jpg

That is how a majority of Americans view Sarah Palin.

:rolleyes: Dumbass. Although I think BadCat said it better.

If it had a green tint I'd say th "cartoon" was from that moron SwampRat
on DU.

Mortalitus
07-08-2009, 10:54 AM
I think that those of you who write her off because of this are not very good students of history.

There was another politician who said he would not be pushed around by the media any more and was written off for a position in national politics.

8 years later he was President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon.

His thumbing his nose at the media establishment caused him to be the ultimate outsider. With the disaster that was our country in the late 60's it was an easy win for him.

linda22003
07-08-2009, 11:18 AM
I think that those of you who write her off because of this are not very good students of history.

There was another politician who said he would not be pushed around by the media any more and was written off for a position in national politics.

8 years later he was President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon.

His thumbing his nose at the media establishment caused him to be the ultimate outsider. With the disaster that was our country in the late 60's it was an easy win for him.

I'm not sure that's the best comparison. When Nixon said the media "wouldn't have him to kick around any more", he had been in national politics for sixteen years - as a congressman and vice president. He bowed out after losing the gubernatorial race in California. He was well known on the national stage when he ran in '68.

I don't know that I'd call '68 an "easy" win (it's an election I remember). Wallace was a distracting 3rd party candidate, and Nixon may have won the electoral vote decisively but in the popular vote won by a half million votes out of about 72 million total votes cast.

Nixon won the White House with a vote total of only 43% - the same percentage Clinton won with in 1992.

Rebel Yell
07-08-2009, 11:38 AM
I'm not sure that's the best comparison. When Nixon said the media "wouldn't have him to kick around any more", he had been in national politics for sixteen years - as a congressman and vice president. He bowed out after losing the gubernatorial race in California. He was well known on the national stage when he ran in '68.

I don't know that I'd call '68 an "easy" win (it's an election I remember). Wallace was a distracting 3rd party candidate, and Nixon may have won the electoral vote decisively but in the popular vote won by a half million votes out of about 72 million total votes cast.

Nixon won the White House with a vote total of only 43% - the same percentage Clinton won with in 1992.

You just hate Sarah Palin, and you're gonna burn in hell for it.:mad::D:rolleyes:

linda22003
07-08-2009, 11:56 AM
My post had to do with Richard Nixon. What's wrong with people around here? :cool:

lacarnut
07-08-2009, 12:14 PM
You just hate Sarah Palin, and you're gonna burn in hell for it.:mad::D:rolleyes:

I don't know about that but she sure has an above average fascination with Palin for someone that says she does not like her or dislike her. The crack in her ass must be getting extremely sore from straddling the fence so much. :eek:

Rebel Yell
07-08-2009, 12:14 PM
My post had to do with Richard Nixon. What's wrong with people around here? :cool:

I thought that was what I was suppose to say anytime someone doesn't drink the Palin Kool Aid.:confused:

Mortalitus
07-08-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm not sure that's the best comparison. When Nixon said the media "wouldn't have him to kick around any more", he had been in national politics for sixteen years - as a congressman and vice president. He bowed out after losing the gubernatorial race in California. He was well known on the national stage when he ran in '68.

I don't know that I'd call '68 an "easy" win (it's an election I remember). Wallace was a distracting 3rd party candidate, and Nixon may have won the electoral vote decisively but in the popular vote won by a half million votes out of about 72 million total votes cast.

Nixon won the White House with a vote total of only 43% - the same percentage Clinton won with in 1992.

You are quite possibly correct. I would just caution against a complete write off of Sarah Palin.

I personally would rather not see her run in 2012. I am languishing for a return to Goldwater conservatism as opposed to social conservatism.

linda22003
07-08-2009, 12:35 PM
I thought that was what I was suppose to say anytime someone doesn't drink the Palin Kool Aid.:confused:

I understand if you were under orders. :p I can imagine whose!

linda22003
07-08-2009, 12:36 PM
I don't know about that but she sure has an above average fascination with Palin for someone that says she does not like her or dislike her. The crack in her ass must be getting extremely sore from straddling the fence so much. :eek:

It's not fascination, just a lack of threads to respond to; the boards have been pretty dead lately. My crack is fine, since I won't be on any fences and won't be tuning in much until primary season.

BadCat
07-08-2009, 12:39 PM
It's not fascination, just a lack of threads to respond to; the boards have been pretty dead lately. My crack is fine, since I won't be on any fences and won't be tuning in much until primary season.

TMI

linda22003
07-08-2009, 12:42 PM
TMI

Sorry. Lacarnut seemed concerned, so I was trying to reassure him.

lacarnut
07-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Sorry. Lacarnut seemed concerned, so I was trying to reassure him.

More amused than concerned. You should try some Boudreaux's Butt Paste.