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07-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Snopes Exposed
Posted by Sarah Brooks . 2/26/2009
Labels: democrats, liberals

By Sarah

For the past few years www.snopes.com has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell-all final word' on any comment, claim and email.

But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators
and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.

David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues.

A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort 'ever' took place.

I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet,snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!

Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?

So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.

I see to many references to Snopes like they are the end all or something.

07-08-2009, 11:38 PM
Everybody who knows Snopes knows that they are a husband and wife team who utilize a large network of informal investigators. This isn't news. Snopes exists primarily to document urban legends and Internet rumors. The vast majority of their collective efforts go to bad photoshopped pics, annoying email chain letters, annoying email tell-your-friends crap, and factually incorrect MSM rumor-mongering.

They are not a political site (or weren't). They expend the same amount of effort on Obama's birth certificate as they do on tracking down Bloody Mary rituals which is to say: enough for their purposes.

I would absolutely use Snopes if I suspected that KFC was deep-frying rats but I would never use them to determine how many nuclear war heads the U.S.A had at any given time. :rolleyes:

07-09-2009, 11:39 AM
This thread is for a discussion of Snopes. Take all your truther speculations to the other thread.

07-09-2009, 11:43 AM
This thread is for a discussion of Snopes. Take all your truther speculations to the other thread.
I didn't know about snopes background until recently. I posted this in case some one else was stupid like me.

07-09-2009, 11:44 AM
I posted this in case some one else was stupid like me.

Not likely.

07-09-2009, 11:46 AM
Not likely.

Leave me alone I'm trying to tie my shoes.

07-09-2009, 12:23 PM
It was probably a big mistake for the Obama administration to direct questioners to Snopes on this issue. It's obviously important and just as obviously it has implications that would fundamentally impact both the Obama administration and the office of the presidency, if true. This is not the kind of thing you rely on Snopes to investigate.

Politically, I'm not sure where you'd put Snopes. The site owners are liberals but about half of the site members are libertarian in outlook and independent in party affiliation. The rest are a mix of liberals, conservatives, and non-political types. They have some pretty lively discussion forums and there are a lot of different political views.