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Rockntractor
07-10-2009, 11:16 PM
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-10-09 06:24 PM
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Smoking ban in park to affect the homeless?

Focus park smoking ban on play areas


Metro Parks and the Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department think they have an offer Tacoma’s leaders can’t refuse.

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The proposed smoke ban for Tacoma’s parks could accomplish all these things – in theory. Reality is another story.

There’s nothing wrong per se with using the law to encourage healthy behavior. The codes are full of attempts to establish or endorse societal norms. But laws should offer some reasonable hope of solving the problems they purport to address. An all-encompassing ban on smoking in parks falls short.

Smokers who have been kicked out of offices, restaurants and bars yet still puff away aren’t going to kick cigarettes just because the neighborhood park is now off limits.

Kids won’t take up smoking because they saw some shady character at the park smoking. They take up smoking because they see their friends, classmates and loved ones doing it.

Littering? That’s already against the law, yet parks are still strewn with bottles, cans and hamburger wrappers. Tacoma officials might as well tell people not to picnic in the park if they’re serious about cutting down on the amount of trash on the loose.

Trying to legislate smokers into a corner – quite literally – is an overreach. The people who would be disproportionately affected by a park smoking ban are the homeless, many of whom smoke and spend a good deal of their days in parks.


http://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/editorials/story/...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6036741

For years the anti-smoking Gestapo have been trying to make it as inconvenient as possible for smokers and that was ok but now it isn't fair that the homeless can't smoke in parks!

Gingersnap
07-10-2009, 11:24 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6036741

For years the anti-smoking Gestapo have been trying to make it as inconvenient as possible for smokers and that was ok but now it isn't fair that the homeless can't smoke in parks!

I've said it for years - watch out when special interest groups butt heads.

The mayo versus Miracle Whip people, for instance.

FlaGator
07-10-2009, 11:31 PM
This will soon be a moot point. I know of a bunch of people who started trying to quit this week. Cartons are running about $50 or more and people just can't afford it any longer. Being a rich republican I would not be so hampered by this issue if I still smoked but the poor dems are really struggling :D

FlaGator
07-10-2009, 11:32 PM
I've said it for years - watch out when special interest groups butt heads.

The mayo versus Miracle Whip people, for instance.

BTW: Miracle Whip sucks. I rather use Cool Whip on a sammich.

NJCardFan
07-11-2009, 12:46 AM
Wait a sec. Cigarettes are going for over $7 for the Cadillacs(name brand). Why aren't these urban outdoorsmen spending their money on food and shelter?

Rockntractor
07-11-2009, 12:49 AM
Wait a sec. Cigarettes are going for over $7 for the Cadillacs(name brand). Why aren't these urban outdoorsmen spending their money on food and shelter?

Been there. Done that!

Constitutionally Speaking
07-11-2009, 10:10 AM
BTW: Miracle Whip sucks. I rather use Cool Whip on a sammich.


Depends on the sammich. Turkey and Chicken sammiches?? - gotta have miracle whip. Anything else?? Mayo.

SarasotaRepub
07-11-2009, 11:15 AM
Hey TSS...send all them homeless people here...Sarasota,FL (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-01-13-homeless-cities_x.htm).

:p:D