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LogansPapa
07-09-2008, 11:13 AM
By Alan Cowell / Wednesday, July 9, 2008

PARIS: One day after threatening to strike Israeli and U.S. interests if attacked, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were reported Wednesday to have test-fired nine missiles, including one that Tehran claims has the range to reach Israel.

State-run media, quoted by Western news agencies, said the tests near the Strait of Hormuz included long- and medium-range missiles, among them a new version of the Shahab-3, which Tehran maintains can hit targets 2,000 kilometers, or 1,250 miles, away.

The reported tests coincide with increasingly tense negotiations over Tehran's nuclear program, which Iran says is for civilian purposes but which many Western governments suspect is meant for building nuclear weapons.

At the same time, U.S. and British warships have been conducting naval maneuvers in the Gulf - apparently within range of the launch site of the missiles tested Wednesday.

Israel insisted it did not want war with Iran. "Israel has no desire for conflict or hostilities with Iran," said Mark Regev, a spokesman for Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. "But the Iranian nuclear program and the Iranian ballistic missile program must be of grave concern to the entire international community."

The missile tests drew a sharp response Wednesday from the United States.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/mideast/iran.php

Eagle
07-09-2008, 11:37 AM
That was probably their entire inventory of missiles.

megimoo
07-09-2008, 02:14 PM
That was probably their entire inventory of missiles.Scuds, Flying old gas hot water heaters !

ConJinx
07-09-2008, 02:22 PM
I'd love it if we had the balls to pop off an ICBM, nuke tipped and all to an uninhabited area of Iran and give them a new glass surfaced parking lot. You know, just to give them a sample of what the free world has to offer in the way of missile technology.

megimoo
07-09-2008, 02:32 PM
I'd love it if we had the balls to pop off an ICBM, nuke tipped and all to an uninhabited area of Iran and give them a new glass surfaced parking lot. You know, just to give them a sample of what the free world has to offer in the way of missile technology.Why waste any D5's on them ?A Salvo of Thermobaric Bunker Busting Cruse Missiles will do the job.After Israel gets done with them and they lash out at us in Iraq it's 'Good Night Irene/Iran 'and fare thee well !

LogansPapa
07-09-2008, 02:52 PM
Makes me wonder what Iranís neighbor to the North would do if this machismo scenario was followed through with, say post-Israeli airstrike?

Eagle
07-09-2008, 02:57 PM
I'd love it if we had the balls to pop off an ICBM, nuke tipped and all to an uninhabited area of Iran and give them a new glass surfaced parking lot. You know, just to give them a sample of what the free world has to offer in the way of missile technology.

Also give them coordinates to observe 1 minute before impact so that they will know the accuracy that can be accomplished and can't try to say that we missed out target.

LibraryLady
07-10-2008, 01:15 PM
Check this out:

Thursday, July 10, 2008 (http://www.gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/)
More Strange Photos Of The Iranian Missile Tests


This photo was published yesterday, July 9, 2008, on the official Iranian Republic News Agency website announcing successful missile tests:

Here is the photo they included with their article yesterday July 9, 2008.

This photo was published in November 2006.

This is the same photo that was published in the WaPo in November 2006.

This photo was published on November 6, 2006--

This was posted in the Epoch Times on Nov. 6, 2006.

This was published on November 3, 2006.
One less missile?

This was published on November 3, 2006 on Payvand News.

This was published in March 2007:

This article was published in March 2007.
Here is another look at it.

5 missiles--

Here's another photo taken from the same location and posted on the internet in October 2007.

Charles Johnson and The New York Times discovered yesterday that the photos from the test were photoshopped.

SarasotaRepub
07-10-2008, 01:59 PM
Hahahahahaha!! Next we'll find out they were really just fancy bottlerockets. ;):D

I was reading this eariler, looks like one of their toys was a dud so fire up
the PS!!!

ConJinx
07-10-2008, 02:09 PM
The night-fire looked like the 4th in Philly.

biccat
07-10-2008, 03:03 PM
the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were reported Wednesday to have test-fired nine missiles, including one that Tehran claims has the range to reach Israel.
I find this amusing, considering that the United States has had missiles since the 60's that could reach Tehran from Minnesota.

ConJinx
07-10-2008, 03:30 PM
I find this amusing, considering that the United States has had missiles since the 60's that could reach Tehran from Minnesota.

we never publicly said that we'd wipe out an entire race of people with said missiles from Miny Soda.

biccat
07-10-2008, 04:38 PM
we never publicly said that we'd wipe out an entire race of people with said missiles from Miny Soda.
Well no, but it is reported like this is some huge technological improvement when Iran or North Korea does it. We could hit Achmadinnerjacket in his bed without waking his wife, and they're excited to have weapons that can fire 1500 miles?

megimoo
07-10-2008, 04:55 PM
Well no, but it is reported like this is some huge technological improvement when Iran or North Korea does it. We could hit Achmadinnerjacket in his bed without waking his wife, and they're excited to have weapons that can fire 1500 miles?all of those missiles were fired from bunkers in the desert .No towers ,no silos just mobile truck launchers.If push comes to shove a single airburst about two thousand feet above them and about four hundred kilo tons would take them all out with change to spare !!

LogansPapa
07-10-2008, 05:05 PM
Do you think Saddamís missile system was comparable?

Odysseus
07-10-2008, 05:44 PM
Do you think Saddamís missile system was comparable?

We'll have to go to Syria and look at them, but it's unlikely. Saddam was more heavily into artillery. He was the patron of Bull's "Supergun" system, which was designed to launch an artillery shell at Tel Aviv.



Well no, but it is reported like this is some huge technological improvement when Iran or North Korea does it. We could hit Achmadinnerjacket in his bed without waking his wife, and they're excited to have weapons that can fire 1500 miles?

Pick a point along Iran's northernmost border and draw a circle with a 1,500 mile radius around it and you find that it encompasses Romania, Greece and Turkey, all of which are NATO members, as well as heavily populated areas of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan. Draw the same circle on the eastern border and all of India, Afghanistan and Pakistan fall into their range, not to mention major chunks of the Indian Ocean. Do the same from the western border and they can range in on the Horn of Africa, Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Saudia Arabia and pretty much all points in between. Now, ask yourself how much oil comes out of these regions? How many US power projection platforms are located within these circles? How many US allies are now going to be targetted by, and therefore threatened by, Iranian nuclear weapons, and what are the strategic implications if a NATO member is attacked by the Imams?

That's why they're in a highly agitated state. What I don't understand is why more of us are not.

LogansPapa
07-10-2008, 05:57 PM
We'll have to go to Syria and look at them, but it's unlikely. Saddam was more heavily into artillery.

Well, Golly Gee Wilikers - how was Saddam going to deliver his WMDís? Camel-back? :eek:

megimoo
07-10-2008, 06:07 PM
We'll have to go to Syria and look at them, but it's unlikely. Saddam was more heavily into artillery. He was the patron of Bull's "Supergun" system, which was designed to launch an artillery shell at Tel Aviv.



Pick a point along Iran's northernmost border and draw a circle with a 1,500 mile radius around it and you find that it encompasses Romania, Greece and Turkey, all of which are NATO members, as well as heavily populated areas of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan. Draw the same circle on the eastern border and all of India, Afghanistan and Pakistan fall into their range, not to mention major chunks of the Indian Ocean. Do the same from the western border and they can range in on the Horn of Africa, Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Saudia Arabia and pretty much all points in between. Now, ask yourself how much oil comes out of these regions? How many US power projection platforms are located within these circles? How many US allies are now going to be targetted by, and therefore threatened by, Iranian nuclear weapons, and what are the strategic implications if a NATO member is attacked by the Imams?

That's why they're in a highly agitated state. What I don't understand is why more of us are not.
"So when the United States finally 'turns Israel loose' They will be doing most of the region and NOTO members a big favor.

I think most of the region will breath a collective sigh of relief when Israel takes out those sites !And if IRAN attacks the US fleet or our troops in Iraq they will have made a very big mistake !
And now we begin to see why GOD took Ariel Sharon out of the equation !!

megimoo
07-10-2008, 06:27 PM
Israel 'ready to act' over Iran
Israel's defence minister has warned of his country's readiness to act against Iran if it feels threatened.
Ehud Barak, speaking in Tel Aviv, said Israel had "proved in the past that it won't hesitate to act when its vital security interests are at stake". He spoke as Iran's testing of missiles that could reach Israel stoked tensions between the two, and with the US. snip

US warning

Over the past two days, the Iranian military has tested missiles, including one that it says could reach Israel.

State media said the tests included the first night launch of the Shahab-3 missile, said to have a range of 2,000km (1,240 miles), along with shore-to-sea, surface-to-surface and sea-to-air missiles.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the US had increased its security in the region and Iran should not be "confused" about US capabilities.

Israel has responded to the missile tests by putting on display one of its aircraft that it says can spy on Iran. The state-run Israel Aerospace Industries says it has equipped its Eitam aeroplane, unveiled a year ago, with sophisticated intelligence-gathering systems.

Mr Barak spoke of the "potential for accords, particularly with the Palestinians and the Syrians", but stressed that the situation was very complex. Quoted by Israeli news website Ynet, Mr Barak said: "We must work towards an accord - but if not, then we must strike our enemy when it is required."

snip

"The responses of our adversaries must be taken into account. Hamas and Hezbollah and the Syrians and the Iranians - there is activity all around us. And there exists a potential for confrontation."


Meanwhile, the AFP news agency has issued a warning that a still image of the missiles being launched, one of several distributed by Iran, was "apparently digitally altered".

The photograph, published on the Iranian Revolutionary Guards website and reproduced by media organisations - including the BBC News website - showed four missiles taking off from a desert launch-pad.

But a similar image, issued by the Associated Press, shows one of the missiles still in its launcher after apparently failing to fire.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7500342.stm

Comments:
However, Israel only has a limited window of opportunity because of the risk of Obama being elected. Since any attack upon Iran would necessitate US assistance in intel, armaments and at the very least a deliberate US ''blindness'' to the attack forming Israel can't count on all those things happening with an Obama administration.
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By all means and don't let any critters receive intel to warn Iran. Make sure Nancy is in seclusion for a new botox session and Harry is emersed in telling us how to live eat and breathe to assure success.

Zathras
07-10-2008, 08:40 PM
Well, Golly Gee Wilikers - how was Saddam going to deliver his WMDís? Camel-back? :eek:

Yeah, to the terrorist groups he supported with money and training.

namvet
07-10-2008, 10:28 PM
Check this out:

Thursday, July 10, 2008 (http://www.gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/)
More Strange Photos Of The Iranian Missile Tests

yeah their a fake. editied. to scare us. nice try ragheads.

Odysseus
07-11-2008, 12:44 PM
Well, Golly Gee Wilikers - how was Saddam going to deliver his WMDís? Camel-back? :eek:

There are chemical, biological and even nuclear artillery shells. Saddam had chemical shells (we found several hundred with sarin loaded, not to mention the thousands more that he expended in Iran and against the Kurds). These can be launched by self-propelled conventional artillery, which Saddam had plenty of. Saddam's air force included fighters with missile capabilities, which meant that he could strike out to the range of his MIGs and SUs. Saddam also had a missile program, although most of his stock was purchased from the USSR and China. His nuclear program included multiple research sites and he was in possession of several hundred tons of uranium.

A word of advice, LP: "It is better not to speak and be through a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

LogansPapa
07-11-2008, 12:47 PM
A word of advice, LP: "It is better not to speak and be through a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

Think you missed the point, Major: Of what threat were all of these nasty things to the United States of America?:confused:

biccat
07-11-2008, 01:00 PM
Do you think Saddamís missile system was comparable?

That peace loving pacifist? Of course not. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/18/newsid_4588000/4588486.stm)

BTW Odysseus, in no way am I saying that Iran does not pose a threat to us and our allies and interests. But do you recall when North Korea announced that it could hit Japan with a missile? The MSM played it up as a huge improvement in missile technology. They are doing the same thing here.

Iran is a threat in their very specific region, and we have huge interests there. But the MSM is playing it as if they are a threat to us militarily. They can't hope to compete with our precision and long range technology. Very few countries can, and those are more susceptable to economic warfare than traditional.

Defiant1
07-11-2008, 05:35 PM
Well, Golly Gee Wilikers - how was Saddam going to deliver his WMDís? Camel-back? :eek:


I see that your stupid is acting up on you again.

John
07-11-2008, 07:38 PM
You know, we hit a satellites in orbit from a cruiser with a missile, and satellites don't move very slow. I think the next time Iran decides to test missiles, we should test our missile defense systems at the same time. It's awfully convenient when you have someone willing to launch clay pigeons for you.

AmPat
07-11-2008, 10:04 PM
yeah their a fake. editied. to scare us. nice try ragheads.

We're in big trouble. They can reconstitute expended missiles now. Even we don't possess this magical ability.:rolleyes:

Sonnabend
07-12-2008, 01:02 PM
Think you missed the point, Major: Of what threat were all of these nasty things to the United States of America?

http://www.wegotcards.com/cards/rude/holi/idiot.GIF

megimoo
07-12-2008, 01:35 PM
Iran test fires 'world's fastest' underwater missile ( April 2006)

"Remember This one a Two Hundred plus MPH Underwater Missile/Torpedo !"

Iran last Friday test fired what it claims is the world's fastest underwater missile - reported to have a top speed of 360km/h (233mph), according to the BBC. Special Republican guard troops fired the weapon - dubbed "Hoot" or Whale - and successfully destroyed a derelict ship in the Gulf as part of Iran's "Holy Prophet" war games. Iranian TV interrupted normal broadcasts to show footage of the test. This latest bit of sabre-rattling, certain to irritate the US whose 5th Fleet operates in the area, comes hot on the heels of a test last week of a multi-warhead conventional...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/03/iran_missile_test/print.html

Goldwater
07-12-2008, 02:56 PM
This was completely expected in the wake of Israel's war games excercise, now we'll see who has balls.

jeskibuff
07-12-2008, 05:39 PM
A word of advice, LP: "It is better not to speak and be through a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."THROUGH a fool?? :D Slow down on your typing, Odysseus, lest you impale PapaLugie!


Think you missed the point, Major: Of what threat were all of these nasty things to the United States of America?I think YOU missed the point, PapaLugie! Maybe Ackedonmydinnerjacket (thanks biccat...I modified your idea a little) doesn't have the powerful toys he wants us to believe he has. Saddam played the same game, didn't he?

Whatever the truth is, we have to believe he has the potential to do what he says he can. If we do nothing and he does have nuclear capability, millions of innocent people will die, as the more innocent "infidels" are killed, the more glee an Islamist feels.

If we (or Israel) act and his claims turn out to be another fraud, well that's just erring on the side of caution. If the bozo wants to provoke a sword fight, do an Indiana Jones style turnaround and put a bullet in his pea brain.

A cop doesn't question whether an assailant's gun is real or a toy. If a threat is posed, the cop can check the gun later. If it turns out to have been a water pistol, well there's one less idiot walking the streets and it's his own fault he's dead, isn't it?

LogansPapa
07-13-2008, 12:45 AM
Why are we cast as 'The World's Policeman'? What business is it of ours? How important would Iran be if it were a thousand miles from that straight and without oil. Israel will be our excuse for the attack when it comes and we'll no doubt present the U.N. with a scrap of paper to justify the action. The leader of Iran's government is like a two year old and simply cries for attention. Why don't you silly people debate the issue and save the name-calling for another forum.

Sonnabend
07-13-2008, 12:48 AM
Why are we cast as 'The World's Policeman'? What business is it of ours? How important would Iran be if it were a thousand miles from that strait and without oil. Israel will be our excuse for the attack when it comes and we'll no doubt present the U.N. with a scrap of paper to justify the action. The leader of Iran's government is like a two year old and simply cries for attention. Why don't you silly people debate the issue and save the name-calling for another forum.

Sure. Here's the issue.

If a nutcase like Ahneedadinnerjacket gets his hands on nukes and attacks Israel,and as a result the entire Middle East goes up in flames, you only need ask yourself one question.

Which way is the wind blowing?

My GOD you're stupid.

LogansPapa
07-13-2008, 12:51 AM
And yet others around the world slaughter their own every day of the week and we ignore it. Why, silly weak fool?

Sonnabend
07-13-2008, 02:51 AM
And yet others around the world slaughter their own every day of the week and we ignore it. Why, silly weak fool?

Someone broke the news that they were related to you?

jeskibuff
07-13-2008, 07:46 AM
Why are we cast as 'The World's Policeman'? What business is it of ours?Quite simply, "evil trimumphs when good men do nothing". Ever ask yourself how people like Hitler, Hussein, Jong Il, Mugabe and the Taliban got into position to wreak the havoc they did on entire nations/continents?? Somewhere during their rise to power, good men in those nations had the power to stop each of them, but because they did nothing (or not enough), evil triumphed. Now that Ackedonmydinnerjacket is bragging on his missile capability and threatening countries that never did a thing to his country, it's obviously time for good men who still have the power to stop him. Since you liberals have such a hard time identifying who's good and who's bad, let me help you out: Israel and the U.S. are the good guys. If no one stops him soon and he starts firing LIVE missiles and if he DOES have nuclear capability, not only will the world suffer from the fallout, but from all the instability that will result. The key is stopping crazy men before they ever get to lead entire nations. Iran failed and because they failed, it now looks inevitable that "world policemen" must step up to the plate.


How important would Iran be if it were a thousand miles from that straight and without oil.Just as important as any other nation that has a nuclear program, has fanatical, irrational leadership and makes threats to their innocent neighbors. Ask yourself the same question about oil-rich countries like Venezuela and Nigeria. They're got the same kind of cuckoos ruling, but they're no threat to us. By your dumb logic, we would be treating them the same as Iran. Put 2 and 2 together. Despite the left's inability to think otherwise, IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT OIL!


The leader of Iran's government is like a two year old and simply cries for attention.Except that this 2-year old is in control of a nation that has a nuclear program and missile capability that could deliver a nuclear punch.


Why don't you silly people debate the issue and save the name-calling for another forum.We DO debate the issue, but all you libs do is just go around in circles. You don't like the answers you get (or don't understand them), so you ask the same questions over and over again. Talk about 2-year olds!


And yet others around the world slaughter their own every day of the week and we ignore it.Simply because we don't have the resources to fix every problem across the globe and because nations like Sudan CURRENTLY pose no threat to us.

LogansPapa
07-13-2008, 12:20 PM
We DO debate the issue, but all you libs do is just go around in circles. You don't like the answers you get (or don't understand them), so you ask the same questions over and over again. Talk about 2-year olds!


Originally Posted by PapaLugie
Why don't you silly people debate the issue and save the name-calling for another forum.

You really expect me to debate you with [COLOR="Blue"]shit like this[COLOR]?:rolleyes:

Nubs
07-13-2008, 01:16 PM
This missile test was in response to the 100 plan exercise. The Iranians are flat footed and they know it as exhibited by the Itreali strike in Syria. The Isteaslis were able to fly 1.5 times the distance of Syria, through top of the line Russian AA defences, without being detected. Iran's only response will be a mass one shot salvo of hot water heaters.

Russia's response will be nothiong. Since the takeover of Yukos, it is in their economic interest to do nothing. In fact, it is in Russia's best interest to stymy any peaceful resolution to this issue. They want a conflict to reap the benefits of the resultant price spike in oil.

LP, I find it perplexing that you of all people want to debate an issue when you are the preeminant poo flinging monkey.

LogansPapa
07-13-2008, 06:03 PM
LP, I find it perplexing that you of all people want to debate an issue when you are the preeminant poo flinging monkey.


HEY! :mad: That's not .........um.....nevermind.:D

jeskibuff
07-14-2008, 11:31 PM
Originally Posted by PapaLugie
Why don't you silly people debate the issue and save the name-calling for another forum.

You really expect me to debate you with [color="Blue"]shit like this[COLOR]?:rolleyes:Oh, Loogie-Woogie, are you upset with my little affectionate pet name for you? Now, don't be. And no, I don't expect you to debate because quite frankly, you don't have the capability. If you COULD, you might have explained the little discrepancy with your "war for oil" meme, telling me why we treat Venezuela in a different manner than we do Iran. But no, you can't, can you?

So, knowing that you libs are totally inept when it comes to answering the tough questions, we conservatives have come to expect the lame excuses when you can't step up to the plate. In this case, it's "waaahhh....jeskibuff called me a big lugie. How can I respond to that when my feelwings are so hurt??"

Don't feel bad. You're not the only one who suffers such inadequacies. At least I'm not yet keeping track of your unanswered questions. On another site, I've got a list of about 11 questions that another liberal is incapable of answering. You can see them in post #11 in this thread: http://forums.dealofday.com/religion-politics/193663-wmds-psychology-fanaticism-part-2-a.html

My liberal chew toy over there calls himself "Fundamental". I just refer to him by the second syllable in his name, as it's much more appropos: "DUH". So see?? You're not the only one with a pet name!


LP, I find it perplexing that you of all people want to debate an issue when you are the preeminant poo flinging monkey.Nubs, I do believe your Liberal-To-English translator is on the fritz. You see, when you enter the text "You really expect me to debate you" it SHOULD come back with "I really don't have any answers that make logical sense, so rather than make a fool out of myself, I'll come up with some lame excuse and hope you won't notice!" If your translator is indicating that a liberal REALLY means what he says, then I'd look for a "Union Made" sticker on the back of it and quickly toss it in the trash!