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satanica
07-21-2009, 07:45 PM
Yes

No

Maybe

Rockntractor
07-21-2009, 07:46 PM
Yes

No

Maybe

More whiney zone material!

satanica
07-21-2009, 07:54 PM
More whiney zone material!

It's a poll that allows you to vote on if Obama was handed a financial crisis. Thats all.

Certianly not the boogy man you make it out to be.

Just a simple poll.

lacarnut
07-21-2009, 07:55 PM
Yes

No

Maybe

Why do you ask? The Obummer has done a horrible job and the glitter is falling off his dumb ass.

patriot45
07-21-2009, 07:57 PM
Yes, but it was there for whoever won the election. Now the poll to ask is how is the 0 handling it!? Very badly.

satanica
07-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Why do you ask? The Obummer has done a horrible job and the glitter is falling off his dumb ass.

According to the GOP base.

If 22% of the American people call themselves Republicans, then half of that would be the base,

...11%

And who gives a fuck what 11% of the GOP say ?

samurai
07-21-2009, 07:59 PM
No. He was handed a minor slowdown, no worse than Bush got from Clinton, and through his errors, mistakes, and bumbling, has turned it into a giant financial crisis.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:05 PM
No. He was handed a minor slowdown, no worse than Bush got from Clinton, and through his errors, mistakes, and bumbling, has turned it into a giant financial crisis.

Then why did Bush say he needed 800 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse ?

Your post implies he was lying.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:11 PM
Then why did Bush say he needed 800 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse ?

Your post implies he was lying.

Bush was an idiot.
Not as big an idiot as Obumble, but an idiot still.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:13 PM
To the idiots voting no.

This would imply you thought Bush was lying to raid the treasury. He told us that the he needed 800 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse.

Your view is that there was no financial crisis and Bush just lied to raid the Treasury before he left.

Fucking idiots. Can't even form a rational thought

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:15 PM
To the idiots voting no.

This would imply you thought Bush was lying to raid the treasury. He told us that the he needed 800 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse.

Your view is that there was no financial crisis and Bush just lied to raid the Treasury before he left.

Fucking idiots. Can't even form a rational thought

400 some billion in debt with Bush.
1.4 TRILLION and RISING with Obumble. That's a CRISIS.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:15 PM
Bush was an idiot.
Not as big an idiot as Obumble, but an idiot still.

So you think he lied to raid the treasury ?

And why would you vote for a idiot twice ?

And how can a idiot fool you for 8 years ? ..

Oh wait, it takes one to know one.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:16 PM
400 some billion in debt with Bush.
1.4 TRILLION and RISING with Obumble. That's a CRISIS.

Whats 400 billion ?

The national debt was 5.5 when Bush took office, he left it at just at 11 trillion.

His last deficit was over 1 trillion dollars.

WTF is 400 billion ?

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:17 PM
So you think he lied to raid the treasury ?

And why would you vote for a idiot twice ?

And how can a idiot fool you for 8 years ? ..

Oh wait, it takes one to know one.

He didn't fool me.
He was simply better than the alternatives - commie al and commie john.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:22 PM
He didn't fool me.
He was simply better than the alternatives - commie al and commie john.

Whats 400 billion ? Fucking idiot.

MrsSmith
07-21-2009, 08:27 PM
Obama was definitely handed a financial crisis...as was GWB. Carter set it up, and Clinton tweaked it just enough. Then the Democratically controlled congress refused to allow Bush or McCain to fix it before the housing crash. Of course, like most Democrats, they're racist enough to enjoy watching their President fail the country.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:28 PM
Whats 400 billion ? Fucking idiot.

11 Trillion??

You ARE as stupid as you look.

lacarnut
07-21-2009, 08:29 PM
According to the GOP base.

If 22% of the American people call themselves Republicans, then half of that would be the base,

...11%

And who gives a fuck what 11% of the GOP say ?

Who gives a fuck what an unemployed loser like you says? Get off your lazy ass and go look for a job instead of posting all day on the Internet. We need more workers to pay for all that free shit your boy is going to give away.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Then the Democratically controlled congress refused to allow Bush or McCain to fix it before the housing crash. .

Ya, I remember when the Dems voted for Bushs 800 billion so he could fix the nation, somehow in your twisted mind you think they stood in the way

And I remember when all the republicans voted against Obamas 800 billion to fix the nation.

Oh wait. Who was it that refused to allow the other to fix the nation ?

Jeeesh, is this for real ?

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:33 PM
Really blarch, I don't know why you think we care about GWB, most of think he spent WAAAAY too much money.

Only thing I supported him on was killing muzzies, and he didn't do a very good job at that. Left too many in Chicago.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:33 PM
11 Trillion??

You ARE as stupid as you look.

The national debt is a little over 11 trillion.

What were you refering to when you said 400 billion ?

I fucking dare you to answer ...I OWN YOU, YOU WON'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION, TRUST ME.

MrsSmith
07-21-2009, 08:33 PM
Ya, I remember when the Dems voted for Bushs 800 billion so he could fix the nation, somehow in your twisted mind you think they stood in the way

And I remember when all the republicans voted against Obamas 800 billion to fix the nation.

Oh wait. Who was it that refused to allow the other to fix the nation ?

Jeeesh, is this for real ?

Nation? :confused::confused: No, McCain and Bush tried to fix Fannie and Freddy BEFORE the Democratically inspired housing crash that started this mess.

You are old enough to remember the housing crash, right? :confused:

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:36 PM
The national debt is a little over 11 trillion.

What were you refering to when you said 400 billion ?

I fucking dare you to answer ...I OWN YOU, YOU WON'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION, TRUST ME.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/09/news/economy/cbo_budget_update/index.htm

Note the date of the article.
As we've seen, you own nothing. You never will.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:41 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/09/news/economy/cbo_budget_update/index.htm

Note the date of the article.
As we've seen, you own nothing. You never will.

LOL. The deficit was 400 billion in September, but the very next month Bush signed a 700 billion dollar check, perhaps you remember Bush's stimulus ... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95336601

That makes a fiscal deficit of over 1 trillion dollars.

To brag that Bushs deficit was only 400 billion the month before he tripled it is laughable.

My dog is laughing his ass off.

Idiot. The deficit was 400 billion in September, and 1.1 trillion the very next month. Fucking idiot.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:46 PM
The "formal cash based deficit" for 2008 was $454.8 billion dollars.

Obumble is already up to $1.4 TRILLION this year alone.

Bush was no great financial manager, he spent like a drunken sailor.

Obumble spends like a drunken sailor spending the Navy's money.

I think 99% of politicians should be in the unemployment lines, their party doesn't matter.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:47 PM
LOL. The deficit was 400 billion in September, but the very next month Bush signed a 700 billion dollar check, perhaps you remember Bush's stimulus ... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95336601

That makes a fiscal deficit of over 1 trillion dollars.

To brag that Bushs deficit was only 400 billion the month before he tripled it is laughable.

My dog is laughing his ass off.

Idiot. The deficit was 400 billion in September, and 1.1 trillion the very next month. Fucking idiot.

http://www.shadowstats.com/article/gaap-based-federal-deficit

Your dog thinks you're an idiot too.

satanica
07-21-2009, 08:48 PM
The "formal cash based deficit" for 2008 was $454.8 billion dollars.

.

Liar.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 08:55 PM
Liar.

You want more pictures?

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures

Constitutionally Speaking
07-21-2009, 09:02 PM
I voted no. There was a crisis but it was not nearly so large as people made it out to be. Worse yet the "solutions" of both Bush and Obama were simply MORE of what is causing the issue in the first place.


Bush was wrong and Obama took Bush's wrong policies and tripled them.

lacarnut
07-21-2009, 09:13 PM
Liar.

You are so stupid that you do not know that the site that Bad Cat entered was from GAAP. That stands for General Accepted Accounting Principals which is the bible that every Corporation and LLC must comply with in reporting their Federal Income Tax Returns. Auditors use these principals to ascertain that a company is or is not in compliance.

How does it feel to be a bumbling moron. If you are going to discuss finances, you should at least know the basics Junior.

Jfor
07-21-2009, 09:53 PM
Bullshit kiki... Had they of done nothing, we would be in MUCH better shape than we are in now. The dems are remaking this economy, or at least trying to remake this economy into an even bigger government owned and controlled economy. So go fuck yourself.

MrsSmith
07-21-2009, 10:13 PM
I starting to think Satin isn't old enough to remember the housing crash. :rolleyes:

BadCat
07-21-2009, 10:29 PM
You are so stupid that you do not know that the site that Bad Cat entered was from GAAP. That stands for General Accepted Accounting Principals which is the bible that every Corporation and LLC must comply with in reporting their Federal Income Tax Returns. Auditors use these principals to ascertain that a company is or is not in compliance.

How does it feel to be a bumbling moron. If you are going to discuss finances, you should at least know the basics Junior.

They're funny when they try to play with numbers.

satanica
07-21-2009, 10:45 PM
The "formal cash based deficit" for 2008 was $454.8 billion dollars.

Obumble is already up to $1.4 TRILLION this year alone.

Bush was no great financial manager, he spent like a drunken sailor.

Obumble spends like a drunken sailor spending the Navy's money.

I think 99% of politicians should be in the unemployment lines, their party doesn't matter.

Listen up fuck stick.

You can show me the cooked books all you want. But the real numbers are at the US Treasury, and in the year leading up to Obama taking office, Bush added 1.4 trillion to the national debt.

My source is the US TREASURY ...whats your source ?

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway

Now go ahead and tell me the US Treasury doesn't know what they are talking about.

satanica
07-21-2009, 10:51 PM
So, the people who voted NO.. hold the opinion that Bush lied when he said he needed 700 billion or the country would collapse in a matter of days, and just said that to loot the Treasury before he left office.

And somehow you are OK with that ?

How noble.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 10:56 PM
Listen up fuck stick.

You can show me the cooked books all you want. But the real numbers are at the US Treasury, and in the year leading up to Obama taking office, Bush added 1.4 trillion to the national debt.

My source is the US TREASURY ...whats your source ?

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway

Now go ahead and tell me the US Treasury doesn't know what they are talking about.

Sure, the GAAP numbers are "cooked".
How long you been taking LSD? You should stop.

Rockntractor
07-21-2009, 10:56 PM
What did you do to Jappy? Is he dead?

stsinner
07-21-2009, 10:57 PM
I don't think that President Bush was an idiot at all!! I think that he was a cowboy! He did what he felt was prudent, ignored the polls of the ignorant and did what had to be done.. He brought the fight to our enemies, and he protected us for 8 years... Maybe he wasn't a good multi-tasker or the super-genius computer of the age, but he was honest, and he kept us out of trouble.. These jackasses who talk about prosecuting him and VP Cheney will come up empty handed, because President Bush did what was right and what was just.. Clinton, on the other hand, spent the greater part of his presidency defending his immoral actions... I'll take the just and righteous President any day...

To me, ignoring polls, knowing that most polls are conducted of the ignorant and ill-informed, I condone President Bush's strategy of ignoring the ignorant..

satanica
07-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Sure, the GAAP numbers are "cooked".
How long you been taking LSD? You should stop.

Those numbers don't include everything.

Are you now claiming the treasury numbers are wrong ?

Rockntractor
07-21-2009, 10:59 PM
Those numbers don't include everything.

Are you now claiming the treasury numbers are wrong ?

Is your wife with jappy gerbil?

Zathras
07-21-2009, 10:59 PM
What did you do to Jappy? Is he dead?

Actually Jappy is his pet gerbil that he trained to parrot him on CU. He now has him safely stored "where the sun doesn't shine" if you catch my meaning.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 11:01 PM
Those numbers don't include everything.

Are you now claiming the treasury numbers are wrong ?

Wow! A 25 watt bulb just went off in your little head.

The "formal cash based deficit" is the number reported to be the "deficit" every year. The "formal cash based deficit" for your black boy is already over 1.4 trillion, and it's ONLY the end of July.

You add in the actual govt. obligations, such as Medicare and Socialist Security and Bush had a HUGE deficit, Obumble is set on making it worse.

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:01 PM
and he protected us for 8 years...


Ummm, the 9-11 attacks happened duringr Bush's 8 years. If you call that being protected then you are a idiot.


but he was honest,


Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so

Ya, whatever.

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:03 PM
Wow! A 25 watt bulb just went off in your little head.

The "formal cash based deficit" is the number reported to be the "deficit" every year. The "formal cash based deficit" for your black boy is already over 1.4 trillion, and it's ONLY the end of July.

You add in the actual govt. obligations, such as Medicare and Socialist Security and Bush had a HUGE deficit, Obumble is set on making it worse.

The Treasury shows Bush added 1.4 trillion to the national debt in his last year, do we agree about that ?

BadCat
07-21-2009, 11:03 PM
Actually Jappy is his pet gerbil that he trained to parrot him on CU. He now has him safely stored "where the sun doesn't shine" if you catch my meaning.

Yeah Blarch, when you see Marko again, ask him how Jen is doing.

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:04 PM
Yeah Blarch, when you see Marko again, ask him how Jen is doing.

The Treasury shows Bush added 1.4 trillion to the national debt in his last year, do we agree about that ?

Zafod
07-21-2009, 11:05 PM
why do you still go by the name satanica you cock eyed douchebag?

Rockntractor
07-21-2009, 11:06 PM
Actually Jappy is his pet gerbil that he trained to parrot him on CU. He now has him safely stored "where the sun doesn't shine" if you catch my meaning.

Somebody needs to switch him with an armadillo!

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:06 PM
why do you still go by the name satanica you cock eyed douchebag?

Cause your mom likes it.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Cause your mom likes it.

Do you even HAVE a mom?
Or at least one that claims you?

Zafod
07-21-2009, 11:10 PM
Cause your mom likes it.

oh a mom joke. Man you are a fucking tool....and a cock eyed douchebag.

Zafod
07-21-2009, 11:10 PM
Do you even HAVE a mom?
Or at least one that claims you?

hahahahahahaha

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:10 PM
So if there was no crisis, why did Bush need 700 billion in a matter of days ?

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:11 PM
hahahahahahaha

Zafod, your mom wears army boots.

Zafod
07-21-2009, 11:12 PM
Zafod, your mom wears army boots.

That she does...because she is even less of a pussy than you.

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:12 PM
That she does...because she is even less of a pussy than you.

Why did Bush need 700 billion ?

It's a valid question.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 11:13 PM
The Treasury shows Bush added 1.4 trillion to the national debt in his last year, do we agree about that ?

No, he added about 292 billion to the "formal cash based deficit".
The GAAP numbers are based on US Treasury numbers BTW.

There are lots of different deficits, and they get HUGE when you factor in govt. "obligations".

Zathras
07-21-2009, 11:14 PM
Somebody needs to switch him with an armadillo!

Or a porcupine.

satanica
07-21-2009, 11:14 PM
No, he added about 292 billion to the "formal cash based deficit".
The GAAP numbers are based on US Treasury numbers BTW.

There are lots of different deficits, and they get HUGE when you factor in govt. "obligations".

So, you just claimed that the US Treasury numbers are wrong.

I win ....again.

BadCat
07-21-2009, 11:15 PM
Why did Bush need 700 billion ?

It's a valid question.

Why did Obumble vote TO GIVE IT TO HIM?

BadCat
07-21-2009, 11:17 PM
So, you just claimed that the US Treasury numbers are wrong.

I win ....again.

If you call that winning, you're the biggest loser I've ever seen on the internet.

Again, dimwit, the GAAP numbers are based on the Treasury numbers.
As has been said, the GAAP numbers are the "gold standard" of government spending numbers.

Rockntractor
07-21-2009, 11:17 PM
So, you just claimed that the US Treasury numbers are wrong.

I win ....again.

Yah kiki your a winner! If there were a special olympics for debate! Loosen your helmet a bit!

Zathras
07-21-2009, 11:17 PM
I win ....again.

Hmmm, to "win again" means you would have had to win before.....no evidence to support that claim, sorry.

Zafod
07-21-2009, 11:36 PM
Why did Bush need 700 billion ?

It's a valid question.

tool.

lacarnut
07-21-2009, 11:49 PM
Those numbers don't include everything.

Are you now claiming the treasury numbers are wrong ?

Now you are backtracking like the idiot that you are.

GAAP is the official & correct numbers. Other numbers you dig up are wrong, wrong, wrong. Plus, I had to explain the function of GAAP to your dumb ass.

You lose. How does it feel getting your ass kicked so many times?

When are you gonna get a job, loser?

Zafod
07-21-2009, 11:50 PM
Now you are backtracking like the idiot that you are.

GAAP is the official & correct numbers. Other numbers you dig up are wrong, wrong, wrong. Plus, I had to explain the function of GAAP to your dumb ass.

http://www.forumspile.com/Misc-OhSnap.jpg

Teetop
07-21-2009, 11:50 PM
To the idiots voting no.

This would imply you thought Bush was lying to raid the treasury. He told us that the he needed 800 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse.

Your view is that there was no financial crisis and Bush just lied to raid the Treasury before he left.

Fucking idiots. Can't even form a rational thought

At least I can hold a steady job and perform at my job. How 'bout you, jizz? :confused:

Teetop
07-21-2009, 11:53 PM
The national debt is a little over 11 trillion.

What were you refering to when you said 400 billion ?

I fucking dare you to answer ...I OWN YOU, YOU WON'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION, TRUST ME.

You own my anal cavity, suck the fart out of it. That's your main job. :rolleyes:

Teetop
07-22-2009, 12:00 AM
Speaking of liberals...


How's your wife's cooter?

Is she liberal with that as well?

I bet so, since you have so much time on CU. :eek:

:D

Sonnabend
07-22-2009, 04:16 AM
No one would dare hand Captain JugEars a crisis. He'd go to pieces so fast people'd be killed by the shrapnel.

The military cant stand him, and the people are realising he is an empty suit and a liar. The gutless wonder never served a day in his life.

His reason? "There wasnt a war"

Coward.

linda22003
07-22-2009, 05:51 AM
Speaking of liberals...


How's your wife's cooter?

Is she liberal with that as well?

I bet so, since you have so much time on CU. :eek:

:D


Well, here's evidence that CU should close at 10 pm every night so everyone can get a good night's sleep. :rolleyes:

marinejcksn
07-22-2009, 07:14 AM
Yes. Just like Bush was in 2000. But I don't remember hearing W whine and complain about how Clinton left him with a Recession.

marv
07-22-2009, 07:47 AM
I voted "NO" 'cause the operative word is GIANT. It wasn't giant until president hussein got his "...never let a good crisis go to waste..." hands on it!

Molon Labe
07-22-2009, 08:29 AM
Yes he was handed and economic crisis. As much as Bush was handed the same economic practices that led to the crisis. As much as the Clinton administration, H.W. Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford and Nixon admins continued practicing Keynsian economics and moving us further from the free market. As much as Congress for half a century has continued regulating the banking industry, promoting spending over savings and bailing out failed private business.

You are so naive.

Question:
What does being handed something mean to you?

I don't feel sorry or sympathy for Obama at all and what he's got on his shoulders. He wanted the job, he put in his application. He was selected. He said he could fix it (whiich is a lie).

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 08:41 AM
Yes he was handed and economic crisis. As much as Bush was handed the same economic practices that led to the crisis. As much as the Clinton administration, H.W. Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford and Nixon admins continued practicing Keynsian economics and moving us further from the free market. As much as Congress for half a century has continued regulating the banking industry, promoting spending over savings and bailing out failed private business.

You are so naive.

Question:
What does being handed something mean to you?

I don't feel sorry or sympathy for Obama at all and what he's got on his shoulders. He wanted the job, he put in his application. He was selected. He said he could fix it (whiich is a lie).

This.

And seriously, does anyone think Obama would prefer to have everything running smoothly? You can get a lot more done when everyone is clamoring "zomg crisis!" than you can when everything is peachy.

Gingersnap
07-22-2009, 10:05 AM
Well, here's evidence that CU should close at 10 pm every night so everyone can get a good night's sleep. :rolleyes:

LOL! I'm reading this thread thinking that Satin maybe....just maybe.....came up with an interesting and vaguely coherent topic and then it went straight into the toilet.

He seems totally fixated on Bush. Most conservatives were very unhappy with the Bush administration spending policies but they shrewdly understood that a Kerry administration would have tanked us sooner. At least Bush tried to rein in the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac psychosis a little. You could make a case that the Republican congress didn't do enough on that front when they had the chance.

But to think that the Democrats who wrote the script for the disaster would have changed the ending if they'd been in power is ludicrous.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 10:09 AM
The assumption of the OP is that Obama had nothing to do with the cause - and I disagree. Not only did help cause it through his constant claims for over a year that the economy was bad - but his election itself caused things to plummet. And that's not mentioning the hand his puppet masters had in causing the financial difficulties.

lacarnut
07-22-2009, 11:54 AM
The assumption of the OP is that Obama had nothing to do with the cause - and I disagree. Not only did help cause it through his constant claims for over a year that the economy was bad - but his election itself caused things to plummet. And that's not mentioning the hand his puppet masters had in causing the financial difficulties.

Obama trashed Bush and the economy. He made it worse and I think his plan is to make it even worse than it is now so that he can pass his whole litany of socialistic programs. Obama is a left wing ideologue that wants to impose high taxes on the upper middle income to the rich so that there will be re-distribution of wealth to the lower class.

satanica
07-22-2009, 12:09 PM
Obama trashed Bush and the economy. He made it worse and I think his plan is to make it even worse than it is now so that he can pass his whole litany of socialistic programs. Obama is a left wing ideologue that wants to impose high taxes on the upper middle income to the rich so that there will be re-distribution of wealth to the lower class.

So, if there was no crisis, then why did Bush say he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse ?

A simple question, that nobody will answer.

satanica
07-22-2009, 12:13 PM
Now you are backtracking like the idiot that you are.

GAAP is the official & correct numbers. Other numbers you dig up are wrong, wrong, wrong. Plus, I had to explain the function of GAAP to your dumb ass.

You lose. How does it feel getting your ass kicked so many times?

When are you gonna get a job, loser?

LOL, Do you understand that the gaap numbers don't reflect the entire deficit ?

A deficit is the number you fall short and have to borrow, this number is DIRECTLY REFLECTED in the National debt.

When Bush released the fiscal deficit numbers he didn't include the 700 billion, and the billions he borrowed from SS.

If you are claiming the US Treasury is wrong, then I really can't help you.

Imagine that, your argument has been reduced to claiming the US Treasury has the wrong numbers, and yours are right.

Rebel Yell
07-22-2009, 12:20 PM
So, if there was no crisis, then why did Bush say he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse ?

A simple question, that nobody will answer.

I'll answer it. Because, fiscally, Bush was Obama - Lite. He was never a fiscal conservative, the guys running against him were just even worse. As I've said before, THEY"RE ALL POLITICIANS. They all have the same agenda, the Dems are just more blatant with it.

satanica
07-22-2009, 12:23 PM
I'll answer it. Because, fiscally, Bush was Obama - Lite. He was never a fiscal conservative, the guys running against him were just even worse. As I've said before, THEY"RE ALL POLITICIANS. They all have the same agenda, the Dems are just more blatant with it.

So it is your view that Bush asked for 700 billion because .....????

Because "Bush is Obama"

WTF ?

Try again.

Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Example: "Obama asked for 700 billion because he wanted to use it to stimulate the crashing economy"

Now you try .."Bush asked for 700 billion because _______________________"

Rebel Yell
07-22-2009, 12:31 PM
So it is your view that Bush asked for 700 billion because .....????

Because "Bush is Obama"

WTF ?

Try again.

Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Example: "Obama asked for 700 billion because he wanted to use it to stimulate the crashing economy"

Now you try .."Bush asked for 700 billion because He wanted it to stimulate the economy

It didn't work. Obama tried it again, it didn't work. Now, Obama wants to do it a third time. What is that the definition of?

BadCat
07-22-2009, 12:35 PM
So it is your view that Bush asked for 700 billion because .....????

Because "Bush is Obama"

WTF ?

Try again.

Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Example: "Obama asked for 700 billion because he wanted to use it to stimulate the crashing economy"

Now you try .."Bush asked for 700 billion because _______________________"


And you haven't answered the question...

"Why did Obumble VOTE TO LET BUSH HAVE THE 700 BILLION?"

Bush didn't get to write the check. The Dim controlled Congress voted to give it to him (with some unfortunate support from some Repubs).

Molon Labe
07-22-2009, 12:37 PM
So, if there was no crisis, then why did Bush say he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collapse ?

A simple question, that nobody will answer.

Who said there was no crisis? How can I help it that Bush is as retarded at economic theory as Obama. Economic ignorance is nothing new. You're describing the majority of our federal statesmen for nearly 40 years.


And you haven't answered the question...

"Why did Obumble VOTE TO LET BUSH HAVE THE 700 BILLION?"

Bush didn't get to write the check. The Dim controlled Congress voted to give it to him (with some unfortunate support from some Repubs).

Very good quetion.

Because they're no different? :eek:

satanica
07-22-2009, 12:38 PM
And you haven't answered the question...

"Why did Obumble VOTE TO LET BUSH HAVE THE 700 BILLION?"

Bush didn't get to write the check. The Dim controlled Congress voted to give it to him (with some unfortunate support from some Repubs).


Obama voted FOR it because there IS a financial crisis.

If there was no crisis under Bush, then why did he ask for the 700 billion ?

satanica
07-22-2009, 12:40 PM
Who said there was no crisis? :

Ummm, you are posting in a thread that has a poll of how many CUers think there was a crisis under Bush.

What kind of idiot would ask such a stupid question when the threads OP has the answer ?

Molon Labe
07-22-2009, 12:40 PM
So it is your view that Bush asked for 700 billion because .....????

Because "Bush is Obama"

WTF ?

Try again.

Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Example: "Obama asked for 700 billion because he wanted to use it to stimulate the crashing economy"

Now you try .."Bush asked for 700 billion because ____To stimulate the economy___________________"

Answered.

What does "stimulate the economy" mean? What long term effects does this type of stimulus have on things like inflation?

lacarnut
07-22-2009, 12:43 PM
Obama voted FOR it because there IS a financial crisis.

If there was no crisis under Bush, then why did he ask for the 700 billion ?

Go get a job dumb ass even if it is flipping burgers. You are a leech on society.

megimoo
07-22-2009, 12:43 PM
I voted "NO" 'cause the operative word is GIANT. It wasn't giant until president hussein got his "...never let a good crisis go to waste..." hands on it!
Rahm (Lofty) Emanuel fingerprints are all over this !
....................................
"GLENN: I want to frame I think everything that we do for the next few weeks and the next few months under the Rahm Emanuel comment that happened on Wednesday. He was speaking to the Wall Street Journal and he made this comment about the economy. He said quote: You never want a serious crisis to go to waste, and what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you didn't think you could do before."
..................................

Rebel Yell
07-22-2009, 12:45 PM
It didn't work. Obama tried it again, it didn't work. Now, Obama wants to do it a third time. What is that the definition of?

I answered it, pussy. Where did you go?

satanica
07-22-2009, 12:50 PM
I answered it, pussy. Where did you go?

What didn't work ?

If you are saying the first 700 billion didn't fix the crisis, and Obama needed to ask for another 700 billion, then YOU ARE ADMITTING there was a crisis under Bush.

Was Obama handed a financial crisis by Bush ?

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:38 PM
you guys are wasting your time with this cockeyed douche...

satanica
07-22-2009, 01:39 PM
you guys are wasting your time with this cockeyed douche...

Why did Bush ask fo 700 billion ?

Such a simple question, but the retards can't answer it.

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:41 PM
Why did Bush ask fo 700 billion ?

Such a simple question, but the retards can't answer it.

you are a fucking tool.

satanica
07-22-2009, 01:42 PM
you are a fucking tool.

Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Fucking pussy.

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:43 PM
Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Fucking pussy.

tool.

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:43 PM
insults from a cockeyed bastard mean nothing to me.

satanica
07-22-2009, 01:44 PM
tool.

LOL.

You take the time to post 3 times to call me a "tool"

But won't take the time to answer such a witty bitty question.

Fucking pussy ass chump.

satanica
07-22-2009, 01:45 PM
insults from a cockeyed bastard mean nothing to me.

Why not answer the question ?

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:47 PM
because its more fun to fuck with a cockeyed bastard then dabate them....

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:48 PM
oh and you need to learn how to insult better because you suck at it...

satanica
07-22-2009, 01:48 PM
because its more fun to fuck with a cockeyed bastard then dabate them....

Thats what happens when a republican gets cornered by logic.

Same old story

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:49 PM
LOL.

You take the time to post 3 times to call me a "tool"

But won't take the time to answer such a witty bitty question.

Fucking pussy ass chump.

and 23 posts per day? you are a tool....

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:50 PM
Thats what happens when a republican gets cornered by logic.

Same old story

ok cockeyed castro. you keep thinking that.

satanica
07-22-2009, 01:50 PM
oh and you need to learn how to insult better because you suck at it...

I want to debate, not trade insults.

As a mod you should set a example and at the very least answer my simmple question.

A mod calling someone a TOOL 10 times in a row while totally ignoring the threads topic it pretty much trolling.

Fucking troll

Why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

Zafod
07-22-2009, 01:52 PM
*yawn*

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 02:29 PM
asked and answered - REPEATEDLY. But the magic queef is too stupid to see that. :rolleyes:

satanica
07-22-2009, 02:34 PM
asked and answered - REPEATEDLY. But the magic queef is too stupid to see that. :rolleyes:

As if.

I don't suppose you can link it or point it out ?

The only answer given was "Obama is Bush"

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 02:38 PM
As if.

I don't suppose you can link it or point it out ?

The only answer given was "Obama is Bush"

Technically that answer was Bush was Obama-lite, which isn't too far off the mark.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 02:39 PM
As if.

I don't suppose you can link it or point it out ?

The only answer given was "Obama is Bush"

I answered your question as did several others. Go back and read. This thread isn't that long. Stop being such a Cleveland steamer.

satanica
07-22-2009, 02:45 PM
I answered your question as did several others. Go back and read. This thread isn't that long. Stop being such a Cleveland steamer.

Gotcha.

I just re-read it.

"Bush is Obama lite"

Is the ONLY ANSWER.

I find it laughable that you think that is a answer.

"Why did Bush need 700 billion ? ...Because he is Obama lite.

Never mind that Bush came before Obama, this would make it "Obama is Bush lite"

But you idiots wouldn't know that.

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 02:47 PM
Gotcha.

I just re-read it.

"Bush is Obama lite"

Is the ONLY ANSWER.

I find it laughable that you think that is a answer.

"Why did Bush need 700 billion ? ...Because he is Obama lite.

Never mind that Bush came before Obama, this would make it "Obama is Bush lite"

But you idiots wouldn't know that.

Technically, it would make it "Obama is Bush on crack," which isn't too far off the mark.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 02:50 PM
You really need to learn how to read because as I said - **I** answered your question. But then, you're not here for conversation or to discuss issues - you're just here to heap abuse on to others so that your own pitiful life does not seem quite so empty and pointless.

satanica
07-22-2009, 02:50 PM
Technically, it would make it "Obama is Bush on crack," which isn't too far off the mark.

So, why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

satanica
07-22-2009, 02:51 PM
You really need to learn how to read because as I said - **I** answered your question. But then, you're not here for conversation or to discuss issues - you're just here to heap abuse on to others so that your own pitiful life does not seem quite so empty and pointless.

Liar.

Prove you answered it.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 02:53 PM
Liar.

Prove you answered it.

Prove I didn't.

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 02:54 PM
So, why did Bush ask for 700 billion ?

For the same reason Bush asked for every other dollar he spent: to feed leviathan.

satanica
07-22-2009, 02:57 PM
Prove I didn't.

Hey, thanks for voting blue in 2008, I really mean it, you guys pulled it together for Obama.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 02:59 PM
Hey, thanks for voting blue in 2008, I really mean it, you guys pulled it together for Obama.

I didn't vote for Obama. I know of no thinking person who voted for Obama. THINKING being the operative word here. You might want to try it once in a while - so now that I've dealt with your attempt to further derail the conversation - can you prove that I did not answer your question?

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:00 PM
I didn't vote for Obama. I know of no thinking person who voted for Obama. THINKING being the operative word here. You might want to try it once in a while - so now that I've dealt with your attempt to further derail the conversation - can you prove that I did not answer your question?

I want to thank the state you live in, really, it means alot.

Why not move to a red state ?

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 03:02 PM
I want to thank the state you live in, really, it means alot.

Why not move to a red state ?

Because I'm here to make a change and convert this state red and It's working. :)

So - care to prove that I did not answer the question? Everyone here can go back and read my answer you know . . . .

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:07 PM
Because I'm here to make a change and convert this state red and It's working. :)

Gore won PA with 48.5%

Kerry won PA with 51%

Obama won PA with 55%


And you think thats working ? ...Jeeesh are you stupid. The real reason you still live in a state that is getting bluer and bluer is because you can't convince mom to move.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 03:09 PM
Gore won PA with 48.5%

Kerry won PA with 51%

Obama won PA with 55%


And you think thats working ? ...Jeeesh are you stupid. The real reason you still live in a state that is getting bluer and bluer is because you can't convince mom to move.

You might want to check an actual map. There are two counties that are getting bluer - the rest of the state is getting reder and reder.

So - care to prove that I did not answer the question? Everyone here can go back and read my answer you know . . . .

BadCat
07-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Once again, blarch...


WHY DID OBUMBLE VOTE TO "ALLOW" BUSH TO "GET" $700 BILLION?

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:17 PM
Once again, blarch...


WHY DID OBUMBLE VOTE TO "ALLOW" BUSH TO "GET" $700 BILLION?

And once again I will answer.

Obama voted for the 700 billion because Obama believed what Bush said about the financial crisis.

And once again I will ask.

If there was no crisis, then why did Bush say there was and that he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collpase ?

Molon Labe
07-22-2009, 03:19 PM
And once again I will answer.

Obama voted for the 700 billion because Obama believed what Bush said about the financial crisis.

And once again I will ask.

If there was no crisis, then why did Bush say there was and that he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collpase ?

Oh...so Obama was as ignorant and stupid as Bush was. So someone who didn't do their homework and recklessly voted for that crap has been promoted?

That's government.

What a load of shat!:rolleyes:

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:19 PM
You might want to check an actual map. There are two counties that are getting bluer - the rest of the state is getting reder and reder.

So - care to prove that I did not answer the question? Everyone here can go back and read my answer you know . . . .

So, In every presidential election the democrat wins with a larger margin than the year before.

And you think it's getting redder ?

Of course you think it's getting redder, after all, math is your strong area.

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 03:20 PM
And once again I will answer.

Obama voted for the 700 billion because Obama believed what Bush said about the financial crisis.

And once again I will ask.

If there was no crisis, then why did Bush say there was and that he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collpase ?


How else was he going to get it? Hey folks! Everything is fine! I want to spend another 700 Billion. Everything is cool, though. Don't worry.

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:20 PM
Oh...so Obama was as ignorant and stupid as Bush was. So someone who didn't do their homework and recklessly voted for that crap has been promoted?

That's government.

What a load of shat!:rolleyes:

If there was no crisis, then why did Bush say there was and that he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collpase ?

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:21 PM
How else was he going to get it? Hey folks! Everything is fine! I want to spend another 700 Billion. Everything is cool, though. Don't worry.

So you admit Bush handed Obama a financial crisis ?

BadCat
07-22-2009, 03:21 PM
And once again I will answer.

Obama voted for the 700 billion because Obama believed what Bush said about the financial crisis.

And once again I will ask.

If there was no crisis, then why did Bush say there was and that he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collpase ?

I believe it was Fed Chair that said that.
Why Bush believed him, I don't know, but apparently Obumble believed him too.

That is a pretty funny defense though, Obumble "believed" something "Bush" said?
Why would he? You all have been SCREAMING about Bush being a "liar" for nine years now.
Obumble must be the stupidest person in the world.

Maybe you can sell him a bridge by "Kominsky Park".

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:25 PM
I believe it was Fed Chair that said that.
Why Bush believed him, I don't know, but apparently Obumble believed him too.

That is a pretty funny defense though, Obumble "believed" something "Bush" said?
Why would he? You all have been SCREAMING about Bush being a "liar" for nine years now.
Obumble must be the stupidest person in the world.

Maybe you can sell him a bridge by "Kominsky Park".

So, you believe that there is no cisis at all ?

When you say ..."Why Bush believed him, I don't know"

It implies that Bush was fooled into thinking there was a crisis when none existed.

Is this your view ? ..that no crisis ever existed ?

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 03:28 PM
So you admit Bush handed Obama a financial crisis ?

He handed him the US economy. I'd call it a tragedy more than a crisis. Crisis makes it sound like it's a sudden and short term problem.

PoliCon
07-22-2009, 03:30 PM
SATANICA - Why are you dodging my question?

satanica
07-22-2009, 03:30 PM
He handed him the US economy. I'd call it a tragedy more than a crisis. Crisis makes it sound like it's a sudden and short term problem.

Call it what you want.

But it WAS and IS a financial problem that was handed to Obama by Bush.

asdf2231
07-22-2009, 03:32 PM
I just moved this to Blarch's Forum because it is obvious he didn't care about anyones opinion and just wanted an oportunity to call people fucking idiots.

Plus it pisses him off and it tickles me summat to do that. Added bonus.

BadCat
07-22-2009, 03:33 PM
Call it what you want.

But it WAS and IS a financial problem that was handed to Obama by Bush.

Who took it and has made it 5 times worse....so far this year.

Molon Labe
07-22-2009, 03:33 PM
If there was no crisis, then why did Bush say there was and that he needed 700 billion in a matter of days or the country would collpase ?

Someone's already answered that for you. But I'll pitch in on my theory.

Thesis = Economic problem
Anti-Thesis = Present as Crisis only government can solve
Synthesis = Bailout Money....Increase the power of the State.


You're a Marxist and you don't understand how this works?



Hey..when you gonna answer this?

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?p=159983#post159983

I was having so much fun showing how you're a statist pig who doesn't give a rat's ass about peoples freedom.

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 03:40 PM
Call it what you want.

But it WAS and IS a financial problem that was handed to Obama by Bush.

... and Clinton to Bush, and Bush to Clinton, and Reagan to Bush, and Carter to Reagan, and so on through the decades.

You make it sound like Obama was surprised by how things turned out or that he'd prefer not to have problems to deal with.

Gingersnap
07-22-2009, 04:00 PM
... and Clinton to Bush, and Bush to Clinton, and Reagan to Bush, and Carter to Reagan, and so on through the decades.

You make it sound like Obama was surprised by how things turned out or that he'd prefer not to have problems to deal with.

Actually, we can probably blame the sainted FDR for making the first kick.

FeebMaster
07-22-2009, 04:08 PM
Actually, we can probably blame the sainted FDR for making the first kick.

He was an MVP, sure, but I wouldn't call him the first. It's been going on since day one, more or less, the pace has just picked up over the years.

Zafod
07-22-2009, 05:09 PM
Man the cockeyed Castro makes for one big fucking tool... Hey douchebag, why not go grow another lice home on that face of yours and smoke another cheap Swisher... That will show us dumb neo-cons the error of our thinking...

MrsSmith
07-22-2009, 07:02 PM
So you admit Bush handed Obama a financial crisis ?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Speaking of not answering questions...


McCain and Bush tried to fix Fannie and Freddy BEFORE the Democratically inspired housing crash that started this mess.

You are old enough to remember the housing crash, right?

Do you recall the housing crash?

The Community Reinvestment Act that started it?

Bush held off the recession for nearly 8 years.

Obama, on the other hand, is milking it for all his "hope and change."

Yep...YOUR guy...blowing it daily. :D

Zafod
07-22-2009, 07:18 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Speaking of not answering questions...



Do you recall the housing crash?

The Community Reinvestment Act that started it?

Bush held off the recession for nearly 8 years.

Obama, on the other hand, is milking it for all his "hope and change."

Yep...YOUR guy...blowing it daily. :D

oh snap

Teetop
07-22-2009, 10:33 PM
Thank you, Mrs. Smith. The key word;


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Speaking of not answering questions...



Do you recall the housing crash?

The Community Reinvestment Act that started it?

Bush held off the recession for nearly 8 years.

Obama, on the other hand, is milking it for all his "hope and change."

Yep...YOUR guy...blowing it daily. :D

edit to add; I guess $#!#stain will ignore this thread topic now. Since he got pwned?

Zafod
07-22-2009, 11:20 PM
come on cockeyed Castro, where did you go pussy?