View Full Version : In honor of next week's DU fundraiser, I bring you a golden oldie

ralph wiggum
08-07-2009, 04:52 PM
Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts)
Fri May-20-05 09:28 AM
Original message
Please don't give out stars (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3692787)

Turns out there's an organized scam by the site that shall not be named.

Lots of bickering and veiled references to the site that shall not be named, and then $kimmer jumps into the fray with this classic post:

Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts)
Fri May-20-05 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
42. Obviously, it is self-serving for me to comment here.

After all, I'm the person who gets the money when you donate, so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt. But I think this thread is unfortunate. It adds to the level of paranoia here on DU, and it creates even greater suspicion against new people.

I have always been impressed by how selfless and generous DU members are. If there is a member in need, I think it's great when others help out. There is no harm in giving someone a star. It's a good deed that can be done easily and inexpensively, from the comfort of your own home.

Do some trolls take advantage of the generosity of DU members? Of course they do. But there are many more DUers who are perfectly legitimate members who have fallen on hard times. They should not have a cloud of suspicion over their heads just because someone at Conservative Underground wants a star too. Those people at Conservative Underground will figure out a way to get a star even if you all stop handing them out. It's not like it's a particularly difficult thing to do. A one dollar bill in an anonymous white envelope will get you a star here.

The moderators never take people's donation status into account when they discuss whether someone might be a troll. Every day they ban people with gold stars. Administrators will occasionally consider a member's history of donation, because we actually know who has donated and who has not. But the moderators can't tell, and they don't even consider it.

Allow me to offer another possible interpretation of what you are reading at Conservative Underground: They know you are reading their crap, and they know that they can easily scare you all into doing what they want you to do. Sure, they want you to give them stars. But if you all get paranoid and decide to stop giving out stars, then what happens? Two things, both of which play right into their hands: 1. More paranoia about trolls and newbies, and 2. Less money for DU. It's a win-win for the disruptors at Conservative Underground.

If only you all would stop reading their lies, they wouldn't be able to disrupt this place. But apparently that website is like crack cocaine for DUers, and nobody has much interest in trying to kick the habit. We know that you all care about DU and you are just trying to help -- and I appreciate that -- but you've got to understand that when you bring their lies back to DU, you are doing more harm to Democratic Underground than the people at CU could ever do on their own.

Let's not give the CUers what they want. I think we would all prefer to be part of a community that is kind and generous, rather than suspicious and paranoid.

08-07-2009, 04:54 PM
I'm going to need a star next week.
Betcha I get more than one.

Adam Wood
08-07-2009, 06:46 PM

08-07-2009, 07:55 PM
Skimmer is giving free advertising for the site that shall not be named. Priceless! :D

08-07-2009, 09:17 PM
I wonder how much of a donation it would take for skinner to let me post anything I want as long as I threaten no one? And that includes not having any post I make deleted by any moderator.:D

08-07-2009, 09:48 PM
Does the advertising alone support CU?

08-07-2009, 11:06 PM
Bumping for what supports CU.

08-07-2009, 11:17 PM
If only you all would stop reading their lies, they wouldn't be able to disrupt this place.

Ah, my dear Skinner...all we do is expose who and what your members are for the world to see. we only speak the truth.

Just ask the Secret Service....:D

08-07-2009, 11:31 PM

08-08-2009, 05:45 AM
Does the advertising alone support CU?

We used to have a paypal button on the front page for donations, ask SR when he's back becuase I presume the account still exists.