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Talismen
08-12-2009, 12:22 PM
"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

----The Declaration Of Independence


Here we are. We find ourselves in the middle of the summer of our discontent, and the frustrations of an irate citizenry are boiling over. This should not shock anyone.

Forced down our throats within months of each other last year, were the 'mother of all bailouts' known as "TARP", and the auto industry bailout. Both gigantic spending sprees ticked off Americans across the country, and a seething angst started to fester within, like a political tick about to pop.

But, born from those two examples of political idiocy, came the "Tea Party" movement, the "Going Galt" movement, and the 10th amendment state's rights movement. All three movements making up one giant collective "pressure valve" with a mandate for a tired and angry lot, made up of Republicans, Libertarians, Independents and Democrats. They began to mobilize and organize...Neighbors, families and friends, all very aware of what is happening to their country, their lives and their futures...Coming together to exercise their constitutional freedoms, and engage their elected officials in relentless sessions of civil discourse. Tired of being ignored, they began making their voices heard, in earnest, in February of this year, during the first round of "Tea Party" protests.

These events received a fair amount of mainstream news coverage, but were 'spun' into something more akin to a KKK rally. Although not shocking, these insinuations were an insult to all those who were doing exactly what the left did for 8 years during President George W Bush's administration. But alas,...Everyone seems to forget that the only supposedly acceptable dissent, is leftist dissent. All others need not apply. (*yawn)

Still, in the 8 months so far this year, we've seen even more examples of spending run amok, rumors of taxes going sky high, the loss of our freedom to buy any light bulb we wish, and the real fear that our Grandparents may one day be forced to do without the health-care they so desperately need, or they'll die. And so, that "pressure valve" has been letting off steam since the August recess began a few weeks ago. In that time, those who dare question obama, his policies, his "lap dogs" in congress, and his thuggish organizing for America/ACORN/union beat-down squads, have been maligned, demeaned, demonized, degraded and just generally insulted to the point of violence.

The president has suggested that those who are questioning him and his policies, should "get out of the way".

The speaker of the house, and senate majority leader have declared all who are against the president and his policies are "un-American". And endless numbers of pundits and loud-mouths have concluded that those same families, friends and neighbors who have come together on their own to protest their misgivings about the state of our federal government, are exhibiting an anger that is "manufactured". They do not believe that regular ol' citizens are capable of comprehending the so-called "reality" of the numerous spending bills, of which most recently is the health care bill. They believe "Jim" and "Jane" Citizen are too stupid to have genuine individual concern in their hearts for the country they dearly love. They simply dismiss the fact that a majority of the American people find themselves at the end of a very long, shredded and worn rope and they're tired of hanging on for dear life. A frustrated people are asking their elected officials to start abiding by their Constitutional duties, and make their votes according to what is in the best interest of their constituents. Not too much to ask really. Yet those pundits...Those loud-mouths....And even those elected officials....They keep on insulting, and keep on dismissing.

Do you hear that? That's the sound of that "pressure valve", building more steam.

Our elected officials can dismiss and insult all they want to...But they should consider themselves warned as of now...They do so, at their own political peril.

Let's get a few things clear...This anger and frustration didn't start with one man named barack obama. His policies have added to the "fire", yes. But this anger and frustration has been festering, for quite a long time throughout a few different Presidents, and multi-trillions of OUR dollars.

There is a sacred trust that is supposed to exist between a constituent and their elected official. That trust is given in the hopes that the politician will abide by their Constitutional responsibilities and represent their constituents and their state, accordingly. But we find ourselves in this mess because the chain of accountability has been broken. On one end of that chain, we have the voters...Folks who for too long have simply pulled the lever for someone who "sorta sounds good" and then disengage from the political process as quickly as they pull the curtain and leave the voting booth. And on the other end of that chain, we have the politician...Ok ok, who in their right mind would trust a politician, right? Well...At the core of the issue is this: We SHOULD be able to trust them. We SHOULD be able to get on with our busy lives, and trust that our elected officials will properly represent us each time they vote. And in the end, if those elected don't have our best interests at heart, it is our job to hold them accountable.

Our system of government was designed for a people that remain involved in the goings-on of government...At every level. Accountability is a citizen's most powerful political weapon. Remember that "pressure valve" I mentioned a while back? THAT is what happens when that disengaged populous finally "wakes up", and starts to fulfill their end of the Constitutional agreement between individual and government.

The time for accountability is now...Before it's too late.

And much to the chagrin of pundits, loud-mouths and elected officials alike,....If that accountability takes the form of loud voices and well-informed rants, it is the job of our elected officials to listen and then make their votes according to what they are hearing. They work for us...Not the other way around.

One more time: Our anger isn't "manufactured". It hasn't been "organized" by anyone other than individuals who've come together, of their own accord. We're tired of the spending by both parties. We're tired of being ignored by our elected officials. We're tired of being dismissed with a generic email or boilerplate letter. We're tired of our money being thought of as "their" money. We're tired of being forced to pay for the willfully irresponsible. We're tired of being told that we'll be ok, and that those in Washington "know better". We're tired of being more informed that our politicians who look us in the face and either lie, or reveal that they are incredibly stupid.

Got that? WE....ARE....TIRED.

We are angry.
We have had it.

And we vote.
And if our votes get us no where....Well....Our forefathers weren't stupid either.
Reread the top portion of this piece again, and do the math.

PoliCon
08-12-2009, 04:20 PM
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we do not have the quality of people such as existed in the founding era. I will NOT be a party to causing something here akin to what happened in France at the time of their revolution.

djones520
08-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we do not have the quality of people such as existed in the founding era. I will NOT be a party to causing something here akin to what happened in France at the time of their revolution.

That's actually the first time I've seen someone make a reference like that... and I think you're right. A "revolution" now would be a lot more like the mokery that was the French Revolution, and nothing like that which led to our great nation.

AlmostThere
08-12-2009, 04:47 PM
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we do not have the quality of people such as existed in the founding era. I will NOT be a party to causing something here akin to what happened in France at the time of their revolution.

When an army fails, it is not the army's fault. The fault rests with the generals who led them. I don't think there is a shortage of Americans who love their country and want it back. And within the ranks of the 10's of millions who do, there MUST be men and women who are capable of leading.

Here is a clip of a town hall meeting with Shelia Jackson Lee. Tell me what you see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L3FnWNkIzU&feature=player_embedded

Talismen
08-12-2009, 07:07 PM
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we do not have the quality of people such as existed in the founding era. I will NOT be a party to causing something here akin to what happened in France at the time of their revolution.

I've got to disagree with you Poli.

If the logical process that leads to secession continues, (due to obama and his thugocracy continuing their attack against our country from within),....That is when citizens and states have a duty to "throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for (our) future security".

If not now...When?
How long is too long?

If the founding fathers had waited for the "right moment", it might never have come.

PoliCon
08-12-2009, 09:57 PM
I've got to disagree with you Poli.

If the logical process that leads to secession continues, (due to obama and his thugocracy continuing their attack against our country from within),....That is when citizens and states have a duty to "throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for (our) future security".

If not now...When?
How long is too long?

If the founding fathers had waited for the "right moment", it might never have come.



I understand your reasoning - and I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with your premise or your goals - I'm just saying that any attempt at change through violence will result in a series of events akin to what happened in France when they turned to violence to change their government. I want nothing to do with that.

AlmostThere
08-13-2009, 12:27 AM
I understand your reasoning - and I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with your premise or your goals - I'm just saying that any attempt at change through violence will result in a series of events akin to what happened in France when they turned to violence to change their government. I want nothing to do with that.
Only someone insane would want to have to resort to violence. But when people say they want their freedom and their oppressors just shrug their shoulders and say so what, what are the options?

PoliCon
08-13-2009, 12:33 AM
Only someone insane would want to have to resort to violence. But when people say they want their freedom and their oppressors just shrug their shoulders and say so what, what are the options?

Under better circumstances - I would support taking up arms. But with the quality of people we now have, any result to arms will result in tyranny. I am for liberty even limited liberty over tyranny.

AlmostThere
08-13-2009, 01:52 AM
Under better circumstances - I would support taking up arms. But with the quality of people we now have, any result to arms will result in tyranny. I am for liberty even limited liberty over tyranny.

I realize you view the circumstances we find ourselves in differently than I do. You obviously have given this a lot of thought and probably are very pained by the situation. I'm fairly certain that neither will change the other's views. But let me pose a couple questions for your consideration. There is no need for a reply to these. Just something to ponder. How limited will you tolerate your liberty? Do you believe the powers that be will be satisfied when they have reached your comfort level? As liberties become more limited, do you think your power to restore lost liberties will increase or will the situation become more dire as more liberties are lost?

Here's the tough one. What do we tell our kids when they ask why we let it happen?

Rockntractor
08-13-2009, 03:02 AM
I realize you view the circumstances we find ourselves in differently than I do. You obviously have given this a lot of thought and probably are very pained by the situation. I'm fairly certain that neither will change the other's views. But let me pose a couple questions for your consideration. There is no need for a reply to these. Just something to ponder. How limited will you tolerate your liberty? Do you believe the powers that be will be satisfied when they have reached your comfort level? As liberties become more limited, do you think your power to restore lost liberties will increase or will the situation become more dire as more liberties are lost?

Here's the tough one. What do we tell our kids when they ask why we let it happen?

These people will not only take away our liberties but life itself! It is no secret that the hardcore liberals want to cut back world population to somehow save the planet from the ravages of the human race. If we give them control of our healthcare and than allow them complete control over carbon fuels we will sign our death warrants. I would rather live in a state of anarchy and rebuild from there than give in to these suicidal socialists!

AlmostThere
08-13-2009, 03:54 AM
Me too.
I'm having a discussion over on Neutral Underground with a person who stated:


Prognosis has to take disability into account. Give a paraplegic a new kidney they are still paraplegic.I asked them to clarify this because, to be honest, I couldn't believe my eyes. This person replied:

It means the kidney would go to the otherwise "healthy" person. Since they have a better prognosis of not being disabled after surgery.No, of course there won't be rationing.

I have to give it to the person, they have some balls. On my public profile on NU it clearly states under occupation that I'm a disabled, stay at home dad.

Speedy
08-13-2009, 07:51 AM
Under better circumstances - I would support taking up arms. But with the quality of people we now have, any result to arms will result in tyranny. I am for liberty even limited liberty over tyranny.

Any revolution would include people like me and that would not be good. The thing is, no revolution succeeds without people like me and that leaves a bad taste in the mouth. The real problem would lie in what would you do with us once we won the revolution for you?

Talismen
08-13-2009, 10:19 AM
I realize you view the circumstances we find ourselves in differently than I do. You obviously have given this a lot of thought and probably are very pained by the situation. I'm fairly certain that neither will change the other's views. But let me pose a couple questions for your consideration. There is no need for a reply to these. Just something to ponder. How limited will you tolerate your liberty? Do you believe the powers that be will be satisfied when they have reached your comfort level? As liberties become more limited, do you think your power to restore lost liberties will increase or will the situation become more dire as more liberties are lost?

Here's the tough one. What do we tell our kids when they ask why we let it happen?
Brilliant questions, AlmostThere ;)

Talismen
08-13-2009, 10:20 AM
I would rather live in a state of anarchy and rebuild from there than give in to these suicidal socialists!

BRAVO! :cool:

PoliCon
08-13-2009, 03:05 PM
I realize you view the circumstances we find ourselves in differently than I do. You obviously have given this a lot of thought and probably are very pained by the situation. I'm fairly certain that neither will change the other's views. But let me pose a couple questions for your consideration. There is no need for a reply to these. Just something to ponder. How limited will you tolerate your liberty? Do you believe the powers that be will be satisfied when they have reached your comfort level? As liberties become more limited, do you think your power to restore lost liberties will increase or will the situation become more dire as more liberties are lost?

Here's the tough one. What do we tell our kids when they ask why we let it happen?

Look at the process that the colonies when through in order to peaceably establish our republic. Oh yes - they took up arms as part of the war for independence, but lets not forget that there was a long process that was undertaken before that stage was reached. It was not something that was undertaken on the spur of the moment - nor was the process a single generational process either. Events must happen in the right time with the right people leading for them to be effective - and if we do not chose the right time, it will be nothing more than cyclical bloodshed across generations as was the case in France. You show me a modern George Washington and I'll follow him into battle. Until then, we can only hope for chaos to be a result.

Talismen
08-13-2009, 04:31 PM
Look at the process that the colonies when through in order to peaceably establish our republic. Oh yes - they took up arms as part of the war for independence, but lets not forget that there was a long process that was undertaken before that stage was reached. It was not something that was undertaken on the spur of the moment - nor was the process a single generational process either. Events must happen in the right time with the right people leading for them to be effective - and if we do not chose the right time, it will be nothing more than cyclical bloodshed across generations as was the case in France. You show me a modern George Washington and I'll follow him into battle. Until then, we can only hope for chaos to be a result.

How long do you think the American people have gone through the same MODERN DAY logical steps in order to get things to change? In my mind, it has to equal at least 30 to 40 years.

We've emailed, we've written letters, we've signed petitions, we've called....And they continue to treat us as Fat King George did the colonies.

CorwinK
08-13-2009, 08:30 PM
Under better circumstances - I would support taking up arms. But with the quality of people we now have, any result to arms will result in tyranny. I am for liberty even limited liberty over tyranny.

Define please the quality of people we now have? Don't think of the quality of the people we know wouldn't take up arms, Or supporters of socialism, just the ones that would take up for "our side".


Look at the process that the colonies when through in order to peaceably establish our republic. Oh yes - they took up arms as part of the war for independence, but lets not forget that there was a long process that was undertaken before that stage was reached. It was not something that was undertaken on the spur of the moment - nor was the process a single generational process either. Events must happen in the right time with the right people leading for them to be effective - and if we do not chose the right time, it will be nothing more than cyclical bloodshed across generations as was the case in France. You show me a modern George Washington and I'll follow him into battle. Until then, we can only hope for chaos to be a result.

There was a long and drawn process by which the colonies repeatedly petitioned the king or a redress of rights, self government, taxation, the whole bit. Look at this however...the Boston Massacre occurred in 1770, 6 years later we signed a declaration that lead to a 7 year war (active combat...the treaty of Paris wasn't signed until 1783) in which we fought for freedom. You already have government supporters roughing up protesters (Kenneth Gladney), how long until they bring weapons and kill someone?
The second american revolution however more closely parallels what is happening today. The southern states, furious over the national governments tariffs (profiting the north at the expense of the south) and assault on states rights over slavery, rebelled after the election of Lincoln.
Our situation is along the same lines however with different causes, and not linked to any one area of the country.
The people, furious over the spiraling national deficit and government spending which will bankrupt them, and the assault on states rights over healthcare and other issues are launching massive grassroots movements promoting the 10th amendment, demanding federal adherence to the constitution (article one, section eight specifically), and demanding accountability to members of the government at large.

You say "Show me a modern George Washington" and you will go to war, I ask, who is going to be the modern day South Carolina and start the cascade? It could be any one of us, or someone who isn't even on the radar. Any sort of rebellion in the near future wont be under calculated steps like our revolutions of the past. It will start with small, seemingly isolated incidents, not in any sort of order...just examples mind you.
National guard units refusing orders from the president (entire units...not just individuals).
Private citizens seizing federal buildings and supply depots.
Private citizens storming the homes of less than popular politicians and forcing them to step down...calling for elections.
Towns declaring themselves not bound to federal authority (and state authority if the state sides with the feds).
Gun battles erupting between private citizens and union/acorn thugs at rallies.

They will be denounced by the left as terrorist attacks by the great right wing conspiracy. As word of mouth spreads around the real causes, it will begin to gain more momentum...and with the way information flows today it will escalate very, very quickly. More incidents will occur until there is no denying that full scale rebellion is at hand. And don't any of you think for one second that there is no way in hell any of these could happen, people are growing more and more desperate because of the unwillingness of our elected representatives to listen to their constituents. I see public mention of civil unrest to start popping up in the next 2 years, outright rebellion in 10 years. I could be wrong...but i guarantee i'm not the only one who is thinking what I have been...I simply have no fear in saying it.

AlmostThere
08-13-2009, 08:46 PM
Look at the process that the colonies when through in order to peaceably establish our republic. Oh yes - they took up arms as part of the war for independence, but lets not forget that there was a long process that was undertaken before that stage was reached. It was not something that was undertaken on the spur of the moment - nor was the process a single generational process either. Events must happen in the right time with the right people leading for them to be effective - and if we do not chose the right time, it will be nothing more than cyclical bloodshed across generations as was the case in France. You show me a modern George Washington and I'll follow him into battle. Until then, we can only hope for chaos to be a result.
There was a decade between the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the ratification of the Constitution. Those were some extremely chaotic years but we survived. And at the time those men probably didn't appreciate the magnitude of their task, building a new country with a new form of government that could survive intact for generations to come. And to do this with 13 independent colonies that were incredibly diverse. All this using 18th century technology on a shoestring budget. Simply incredible!

I'm not trying to teach a history lesson here. I just wanted to point out some of the major points. Because if the men and women of the Revolutionary Era could manage to accomplish what they did with the resources they had, I personally can't image giving away everything they and subsequent generations have fought to protect because I don't have faith in leadership. If we don't have the leaders we need, we find them. They are there.

Talismen
08-13-2009, 09:06 PM
Define please the quality of people we now have? Don't think of the quality of the people we know wouldn't take up arms, Or supporters of socialism, just the ones that would take up for "our side".



There was a long and drawn process by which the colonies repeatedly petitioned the king or a redress of rights, self government, taxation, the whole bit. Look at this however...the Boston Massacre occurred in 1770, 6 years later we signed a declaration that lead to a 7 year war (active combat...the treaty of Paris wasn't signed until 1783) in which we fought for freedom. You already have government supporters roughing up protesters (Kenneth Gladney), how long until they bring weapons and kill someone?
The second american revolution however more closely parallels what is happening today. The southern states, furious over the national governments tariffs (profiting the north at the expense of the south) and assault on states rights over slavery, rebelled after the election of Lincoln.
Our situation is along the same lines however with different causes, and not linked to any one area of the country.
The people, furious over the spiraling national deficit and government spending which will bankrupt them, and the assault on states rights over healthcare and other issues are launching massive grassroots movements promoting the 10th amendment, demanding federal adherence to the constitution (article one, section eight specifically), and demanding accountability to members of the government at large.

You say "Show me a modern George Washington" and you will go to war, I ask, who is going to be the modern day South Carolina and start the cascade? It could be any one of us, or someone who isn't even on the radar. Any sort of rebellion in the near future wont be under calculated steps like our revolutions of the past. It will start with small, seemingly isolated incidents, not in any sort of order...just examples mind you.
National guard units refusing orders from the president (entire units...not just individuals).
Private citizens seizing federal buildings and supply depots.
Private citizens storming the homes of less than popular politicians and forcing them to step down...calling for elections.
Towns declaring themselves not bound to federal authority (and state authority if the state sides with the feds).
Gun battles erupting between private citizens and union/acorn thugs at rallies.

They will be denounced by the left as terrorist attacks by the great right wing conspiracy. As word of mouth spreads around the real causes, it will begin to gain more momentum...and with the way information flows today it will escalate very, very quickly. More incidents will occur until there is no denying that full scale rebellion is at hand. And don't any of you think for one second that there is no way in hell any of these could happen, people are growing more and more desperate because of the unwillingness of our elected representatives to listen to their constituents. I see public mention of civil unrest to start popping up in the next 2 years, outright rebellion in 10 years. I could be wrong...but i guarantee i'm not the only one who is thinking what I have been...I simply have no fear in saying it.

BRAVO!!!! :cool:

Talismen
08-13-2009, 09:08 PM
There was a decade between the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the ratification of the Constitution. Those were some extremely chaotic years but we survived. And at the time those men probably didn't appreciate the magnitude of their task, building a new country with a new form of government that could survive intact for generations to come. And to do this with 13 independent colonies that were incredibly diverse. All this using 18th century technology on a shoestring budget. Simply incredible!

I'm not trying to teach a history lesson here. I just wanted to point out some of the major points. Because if the men and women of the Revolutionary Era could manage to accomplish what they did with the resources they had, I personally can't image giving away everything they and subsequent generations have fought to protect because I don't have faith in leadership. If we don't have the leaders we need, we find them. They are there.

Exactly....
Those folks had much less than we have today, and found themselves in the same position we're in today....Tired of going before their "government" and screaming at them to get them to listen to their concerns.

PoliCon
08-13-2009, 09:13 PM
There was a decade between the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the ratification of the Constitution. Those were some extremely chaotic years but we survived. And at the time those men probably didn't appreciate the magnitude of their task, building a new country with a new form of government that could survive intact for generations to come. And to do this with 13 independent colonies that were incredibly diverse. All this using 18th century technology on a shoestring budget. Simply incredible!

I'm not trying to teach a history lesson here. I just wanted to point out some of the major points. Because if the men and women of the Revolutionary Era could manage to accomplish what they did with the resources they had, I personally can't image giving away everything they and subsequent generations have fought to protect because I don't have faith in leadership. If we don't have the leaders we need, we find them. They are there.

lol I'm a history teacher. I know what happened between the war for independence and the ratification of the constitution. I also know that there was strong leadership and if not for the strong leadership of General George Washington - this country would have failed in conception and failed in it's infancy. We have no such strong leader today.

I also know that our bid for independence began long before the war even started. This country was populated by and large by like minded people who were interested in liberty and against tyranny. Even the loyalists were in favor of liberty by and large. We do not have such a situation today. Like I said - our political and social landscape has more in common with france at the time of their revolution.

PALEOCON
08-14-2009, 09:01 AM
......................You say "Show me a modern George Washington" and you will go to war, ...............................


The party you query is ever so typical of the Hannitised/Limbaughised neoconned sheeple who are the real cause of America's collapse. They imagine themselves conservative defenders of the Constitution in the image of the Founders...................yet they cheered 8 years of trashing of the Constitution when done by THEIR faction and in Truth these people would hate living under the original intent of the Constitution far more than they loathe the Statism of their obamaist cousins. These are the people who screamed tinfoil hatted idiot and moonbat when presented with a constitutionalist alternative during the repub primaries in 2007/2008.

The folks at the Tea Paties and Townhalls have a lot to learn and digest about the real state of America before they are ready to challenge the Unity Party.

Rockntractor
08-14-2009, 09:08 AM
The party you query is ever so typical of the Hannitised/Limbaughised neoconned sheeple who are the real cause of America's collapse. They imagine themselves conservative defenders of the Constitution in the image of the Founders...................yet they cheered 8 years of trashing of the Constitution when done by THEIR faction and in Truth these people would hate living under the original intent of the Constitution far more than they loathe the Statism of their obamaist cousins. These are the people who screamed tinfoil hatted idiot and moonbat when presented with a constitutionalist alternative during the repub primaries in 2007/2008.

The folks at the Tea Paties and Townhalls have a lot to learn and digest about the real state of America before they are ready to challenge the Unity Party.
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/Troll_spray.jpg?t=1250255245

Zathras
08-14-2009, 10:22 AM
The party you query is ever so typical of the Hannitised/Limbaughised neoconned sheeple who are the real cause of America's collapse. They imagine themselves conservative defenders of the Constitution in the image of the Founders...................yet they cheered 8 years of trashing of the Constitution when done by THEIR faction and in Truth these people would hate living under the original intent of the Constitution far more than they loathe the Statism of their obamaist cousins. These are the people who screamed tinfoil hatted idiot and moonbat when presented with a constitutionalist alternative during the repub primaries in 2007/2008.

The folks at the Tea Paties and Townhalls have a lot to learn and digest about the real state of America before they are ready to challenge the Unity Party.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Red_Shoulder/Demotivational/Demotivational-Retards.jpg