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Claret1995
07-13-2008, 08:24 AM
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oktoberain (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-12-08 06:56 PM
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Serious post. If you have any extra money at all, please read.
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Right now, food prices are going up and food bank donations are down. As a member of the "poor class" (with some education, thank goodness) please let me humble myself to ask.

If you have any extra money, PLEASE donate to your local food bank. Poor Americans are in a dire situation. You know the annoyingly high electricity and gas bill you're paying? Poorer Americans are dealing with the same thing, with less resources. I personally know of a woman just a couple of mobile homes down who's eating canned cat food and rice. There's an elderly woman down the street who's living on canned green beans and white rice.

People are desperate. Please god, if you have anything you can spare...help. If you need help finding a resource, I will PERSONALLY assist you. Consider this a request on my knees. I will GLADLY volunteer my time, but I'm just as poor as they are. I have no money to give. This request to those who are better off than me is the best I can do.

Please, please. Even if it's just cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie mix from your cupboard. Anything helps.

On my knees for the hungry of America,
Brandy



Gawd braindead in Oktober try getting rid of that $100.00 per month cable / internet bill may help alot.



some posters are also in agreement and claim as much poverty as the OP but yet their loyalty to du MAKES THEM PAY FOR AN ISP EVERY MONTH

Constitutionally Speaking
07-13-2008, 09:40 AM
What is really stupid is that canned cat food is EXPENSIVE!!! There are FAR cheaper food sources available than that!!

SarasotaRepub
07-13-2008, 09:48 AM
What is really stupid is that canned cat food is EXPENSIVE!!! There are FAR cheaper food sources available than that!!

Yep, that post is full of BS. This food comes to mind...

http://www2.bc.edu/~dvoskina/noodle.jpg

:rolleyes:

LibraryLady
07-13-2008, 09:49 AM
What is really stupid is that canned cat food is EXPENSIVE!!! There are FAR cheaper food sources available than that!!

Absolutely! I have finicky cats (aren't they all) and I pay about 59 cents a can. Some generic tunas are cheaper.

Dried beans are an excellent source of nutrients and are very cheap. Eggs, carrots, oatmeal, potatoes, peanut butter......

SarasotaRepub
07-13-2008, 09:56 AM
And didn't the post mention...RICE!!! :eek:

I guess the poster forgot how just a little while ago DU was in an uproar
over the skyrocketing price of that staple!!!

LibraryLady
07-13-2008, 10:04 AM
Food Banks are hurting. I liked this idea:


dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #14
51. The grocery store I shop at makes it so easy

Near the front check outs they have bags of food already set up. You just haved to pick the bag up and put it in your cart when you check out the carry out takes it over and puts it in the barrel. The bag costs $5.00 and I try and grab one when I do my weekly shopping.

A few years ago I got permission to erase library fines with a donation of canned goods for a food bank. It was so successful that the next year we did it with pet food for the animal shelter. We got books back that no one ever expected to see again!

Voice of Reason
07-13-2008, 12:20 PM
Excuse me, but I think this post deserves to be applauded rather than ridiculed.

oktoberain didn't say, "food banks are hurting, so the government needs to step in and spend more money on welfare." She didn't say, "the poor are having trouble making ends meet, because of evil Republicans." She didn't even say, "food prices are going up, and it's all Bu$$$shitler's fault!!!1!"

She's asking for voluntary donations to help those who are having trouble. She's asking people who are comfortable to aid those who are not. That's a downright conservative attitude to take. That's the sort of thing we should be encouraging.

Brandy, I don't know if you're reading this, but thanks to your post, I just made a contribution of $500 to Northwest Harvest (http://www.northwestharvest.org). I've been having a very good year, and I thank you for reminding me to share my good fortune.

Elspeth
07-13-2008, 01:49 PM
Food Banks are hurting. I liked this idea:



A few years ago I got permission to erase library fines with a donation of canned goods for a food bank. It was so successful that the next year we did it with pet food for the animal shelter. We got books back that no one ever expected to see again!

THIS is a fantastic idea. Does the public library get to count the fines as donations?

Elspeth
07-13-2008, 01:51 PM
Excuse me, but I think this post deserves to be applauded rather than ridiculed.

oktoberain didn't say, "food banks are hurting, so the government needs to step in and spend more money on welfare." She didn't say, "the poor are having trouble making ends meet, because of evil Republicans." She didn't even say, "food prices are going up, and it's all Bu$$$shitler's fault!!!1!"

She's asking for voluntary donations to help those who are having trouble. She's asking people who are comfortable to aid those who are not. That's a downright conservative attitude to take. That's the sort of thing we should be encouraging.

Brandy, I don't know if you're reading this, but thanks to your post, I just made a contribution of $500 to Northwest Harvest (http://www.northwestharvest.org). I've been having a very good year, and I thank you for reminding me to share my good fortune.

I agree with you here. Brandy's post is asking people to act and voluntarily donate food to shelters. It is a win-win all around. And she's right: the working poor are getting hit hard, especially if they have family obligations.

LibraryLady
07-13-2008, 01:54 PM
THIS is a fantastic idea. Does the public library get to count the fines as donations?


I was at a University library and just got permission from our Comptroller. I had the authourity to waive fines anyway, I just thought it would be fun to get some good out of it.

Now I hear they have an amnesty week. :(

Elspeth
07-13-2008, 01:56 PM
I was at a University library and just got permission from our Comptroller. I had the authourity to waive fines anyway, I just thought it would be fun to get some good out of it.

Now I hear they have an amnesty week. :(

Should I ask what that is?

I like your idea very much. It's got me thinking about something I might be able to do here. We have a lot of families who have been hit badly by the mortgage mess.

LibraryLady
07-13-2008, 02:01 PM
They just forgive the fines if people will return books. On a college campus that is a big problem. We had 100s of books missing.

Our biggest problem was the faculty! They had books checked out for 10-15 YEARS. I had a program where they could keep the books indefinitely but we had to see the book every July. I would send student workers to their offices to help track them down. They would have to use dollies to transport the books.
I heard some of the most incredible excuses imaginable.:D

CLibertarian
07-13-2008, 02:06 PM
They just forgive the fines if people will return books. On a college campus that is a big problem. We had 100s of books missing.

Our biggest problem was the faculty! They had books checked out for 10-15 YEARS. I had a program where they could keep the books indefinitely but we had to see the book every July. I would send student workers to their offices to help track them down. They would have to use dollies to transport the books.
I heard some of the most incredible excuses imaginable.:D

Professors to seem to be the least realistic people on the planet with a huge belief that they are entitled because, they are just too special to have rules apply to them.

Elspeth
07-13-2008, 02:16 PM
They just forgive the fines if people will return books. On a college campus that is a big problem. We had 100s of books missing.

Our biggest problem was the faculty! They had books checked out for 10-15 YEARS. I had a program where they could keep the books indefinitely but we had to see the book every July. I would send student workers to their offices to help track them down. They would have to use dollies to transport the books.
I heard some of the most incredible excuses imaginable.:D

Boy did that ring a bell. There is one prof in my department who took out 100 books this year, which is the limit at the school where I am. They were mostly sitting around waiting to be read. :) Meanwhile, grad students couldn't get them for their research and I had to explain to them why not.

Elspeth
07-13-2008, 02:21 PM
Professors to seem to be the least realistic people on the planet with a huge belief that they are entitled because, they are just too special to have rules apply to them.

To be fair--and profs drive me crazy too--their job requires reading in a way that other jobs do not. Professors need books the way that the admins need their computers and that the construction folks need hard hats. I would not expect to have to bring my own computer to work and professors should not be expected to bring their own books, journals, etc.

BTW, you would not believe how much academic books and journals cost.:eek: There was one book I saw--100 pages only. Hardback. The book was over $100! It was an obscure subject that only a prof would care about, so I guess it was expensive because not many copies were made and the writer had to get some kind of return on it.

LibraryLady
07-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Boy did that ring a bell. There is one prof in my department who took out 100 books this year, which is the limit at the school where I am. They were mostly sitting around waiting to be read. :) Meanwhile, grad students couldn't get them for their research and I had to explain to them why not.

We had a program where if a student requested the book and a faculty member had it, we would call and ask if we could come get it. Nine times out of ten the professor was agreeable.

Elspeth
07-13-2008, 02:31 PM
We had a program where if a student requested the book and a faculty member had it, we would call and ask if we could come get it. Nine times out of ten the professor was agreeable.

Well that good at least. It sounds like your library should run that canned goods stint once a year. :) (And ours too!)

CLibertarian
07-13-2008, 10:39 PM
To be fair--and profs drive me crazy too--their job requires reading in a way that other jobs do not. Professors need books the way that the admins need their computers and that the construction folks need hard hats. I would not expect to have to bring my own computer to work and professors should not be expected to bring their own books, journals, etc.

BTW, you would not believe how much academic books and journals cost.:eek: There was one book I saw--100 pages only. Hardback. The book was over $100! It was an obscure subject that only a prof would care about, so I guess it was expensive because not many copies were made and the writer had to get some kind of return on it.

I have no sympathy for them. Most of my textbooks cost more than that 20 years ago. In any professional position, an employer can require that up to 10% of your income be spent on work related expenses. Again, they think that they are special.

Constitutionally Speaking
07-14-2008, 05:53 AM
Excuse me, but I think this post deserves to be applauded rather than ridiculed.

oktoberain didn't say, "food banks are hurting, so the government needs to step in and spend more money on welfare." She didn't say, "the poor are having trouble making ends meet, because of evil Republicans." She didn't even say, "food prices are going up, and it's all Bu$$$shitler's fault!!!1!"

She's asking for voluntary donations to help those who are having trouble. She's asking people who are comfortable to aid those who are not. That's a downright conservative attitude to take. That's the sort of thing we should be encouraging.

Brandy, I don't know if you're reading this, but thanks to your post, I just made a contribution of $500 to Northwest Harvest (http://www.northwestharvest.org). I've been having a very good year, and I thank you for reminding me to share my good fortune.



The sentiment is fine, I applaud that the OP wants to help. But if someone is surviving on cat food, they are making extremely stupid choices. There are far better and far cheaper ways to feed yourself.

Teatime
07-14-2008, 09:57 AM
I personally know of a woman just a couple of mobile homes down who's eating canned cat food and rice. There's an elderly woman down the street who's living on canned green beans and white rice.

As for the elderly woman, maybe she should check "Meals on Wheels" ??? She might be eligible.

Voice of Reason
07-14-2008, 01:48 PM
The sentiment is fine, I applaud that the OP wants to help. But if someone is surviving on cat food, they are making extremely stupid choices. There are far better and far cheaper ways to feed yourself.

The cat food thing is, I agree, over-the-top, and almost certainly false. (The DUmmie appears to be posting in good faith, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that the supposed cat food eater deceived her, and she is guilty of gullibility rather than lying.)

And the fact is that things are pretty damned good in this country. You wouldn't have to go very far back in time to find an era where the very notion that the biggest health problem facing the impoverished would be obesity would be considered ludicrous, unimaginable fantasy, and yet here we are. It's pretty hard to go hungry in the United States; one can feed oneself quite well here (on food made for humans) on very little income.

But there are still some who need help, and private charities do a much better job of helping them than government programs do. Furthermore, Americans as a people are unwilling to see citizens suffer from poverty, and Americans as a people regrettably have the legal authority to institute those inefficient (and, to the extent they rely on seized money, immoral) government programs. If we want to avoid having the government arrogate more and more authority to itself, it behooves those of us in a position to be charitable to be charitable.

Sneering at the hungry merely helps to perpetuate a stereotype of conservatives as cold-hearted.