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MoshMasterD
08-26-2009, 08:56 AM
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Dying Eagle (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-26-09 08:11 AM
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A warning to all right wingers i know.........
The very first time I hear any of these knuckle dragger's disrespect The great Ted Kennedy in any way I WILL RESORT TO VIOLENCE! I will punch any one of these assholes if they give me the slightest reasoning. This man is an american hero who has spent his whole life being disrespected by the nazi right wing. He will get the respect in death that he should of had in life!!!

God Speed Teddy, you are in heaven with your beloved brothers now!!



:D

Lars1701a
08-26-2009, 08:57 AM
Man what hypocrisy. :mad::mad:

Sonnabend
08-26-2009, 09:07 AM
if they give me the slightest reasoning. This man is an american hero who has spent his whole life being disrespected by the nazi right wing. He will get the respect in death that he should of had in life!!!

Respect is earned, not bestowed.

Your "hero" was a drunk driver who drove off a bridge, left a woman to die alone and terrified, swam home and did not come forward the next day without a bevy of lawyers behind him.

He did not ever show any contrition, or remorse, for the life he took, nor had he ever admiotted what he had done,and he never apologised to the family of the woman he murdered.

Had he done so, i would have felt more kindly towards him...as it is, he is no less than scum for what he did.

I have no sympathy, no forgiveness, and no compassion whatsoever for any drunk driver...least of all one who literally got away with murder.

Claret1995
08-26-2009, 09:09 AM
Well it would appear that the aids infested eagle is lookin for a fight. Uh virtual only though

Unless he is requesting live volunteers,I will enlist. A dummy punching anyone out would be world news.

OTOH if God is feeling especially mericful ,maybe teddy will get to beg MaryJo for forgiveness IN PERSON

Probably won't happen though cause teddy is swimming in the river styx now

Sonnabend
08-26-2009, 09:11 AM
http://www.nndb.com/people/182/000088915/kopechne-enl.jpg

stsinner
08-26-2009, 09:12 AM
Imagine the scrawny little arms and balled up wittle fists of that sissy threatening to punch anyone who badmouths fat Teddy... I'm sure a firm backhand would send that clown into the fetal position..

Oh, and as far as the in Heaven with your brothers bit... I'm doubting that..

Gingersnap
08-26-2009, 10:21 AM
What a tool.

Yes, let's settle our various political disagreements with fists. Maybe later we can move on to baseball bats or my own personal favorite: firearms. Which side does he think would finalize that particular argument? :rolleyes:

Lars1701a
08-26-2009, 10:22 AM
ROFL its been flushed down the memory hole. :D

Claret1995
08-26-2009, 10:45 AM
ROFL its been flushed down the memory hole. :D


Probably cause many conservative sites were lining up to be PUNCHED.

So I will make my case anyway

teddy was a murdering PUNK,a waste of human flesh and a lying pig.

ANYONE WANT TO ADD TO THIS...........WON'T BE HARD

OK DYING EAGLE ,I WILL GIVE YOU THE FIRST TWO SWINGS

FDK
08-26-2009, 11:14 AM
I WILL RESORT TO VIOLENCE! I will punch any one of these assholes if they give me the slightest reasoning.

Oh, man. Am I skeered. I'm gonna have to turn off my 'puter and go hide.

movie buff
08-26-2009, 07:46 PM
Plus, even without counting what happened at Chappaquiddick, I wonder if Dying Eagle is aware of the fact that this "American hero" a few years ago torpedoed a proposition to build offshore wind- power mills, on the grounds that they would be built in a section of the ocean where he (Teddy) liked to go out yachting!

Rockntractor
08-26-2009, 08:43 PM
Right now he is likely in a place where global warming is real. Perhaps he will sell the devil on national hell care!

BSR
08-26-2009, 09:51 PM
Fuck Ted, he got away with murder. I'm glad he's gone. The world is a better place with that murdering bastard gone.

daddy2three
08-26-2009, 10:15 PM
I pray for the family during their time of grief and for mercy on this man's soul, mercy that I hope for when I stand before the judgement seat of God.

NJCardFan
08-27-2009, 12:53 AM
Somebody ask Dying Eagle if he felt the same way when Tony Snow died. Perhaps if I showed them some of the comments from DailyKos or even DU. And Snow never caused the death of anyone.

movie buff
08-27-2009, 01:13 PM
I pray for the family during their time of grief and for mercy on this man's soul, mercy that I hope for when I stand before the judgement seat of God.

That's what I did, too, when I first heard of his death.
Regardless of what he did in life (And, as you can guess, I'm not fond of most of what he did), he was a human being with a family.

ralph wiggum
08-27-2009, 01:21 PM
Somebody ask Dying Eagle if he felt the same way when Tony Snow died. Perhaps if I showed them some of the comments from DailyKos or even DU. And Snow never caused the death of anyone.

You don't understand, Tony Snow was an evil lying Neocon who covered for the ChimpyMcCokespoonBushHitler administration for years. He is complicit in all the deaths of the American soldiers during the past 8 years, as well as the millions of Iraqi's who have died. (DU Mode)

BadCat
08-27-2009, 01:25 PM
Now come on you guys, brain cancer is a terrible way to go.

Imagine spending your entire life attempting to turn the US into a communist satellite and then in your last days, getting the nickname "Spongebrain Messypants".

Lanie
08-27-2009, 01:53 PM
Respect is earned, not bestowed.

Your "hero" was a drunk driver who drove off a bridge, left a woman to die alone and terrified, swam home and did not come forward the next day without a bevy of lawyers behind him.

He did not ever show any contrition, or remorse, for the life he took, nor had he ever admiotted what he had done,and he never apologised to the family of the woman he murdered.

Had he done so, i would have felt more kindly towards him...as it is, he is no less than scum for what he did.

I have no sympathy, no forgiveness, and no compassion whatsoever for any drunk driver...least of all one who literally got away with murder.

I don't think we can say he never was remorseful.

While I agree that a man who does that shouldn't be Senator, he did do some good things. Helping out with children's healthcare was one of them.

Hypocrisy indeed. As soon as a righty dies, and they piss on their graves, people here will complain about it. And vice versa. Like sands through the hour glass, so are the Days of Our Lives. Anytime somebody dies, the other side pisses on their grave. Then, that side gets self-righteous as if their side doesn't do it. All bunch of dumbass hypocrites.

Speedy
08-27-2009, 02:34 PM
Fistfights are for pussies. Knifefights on the other hand, I would never pass up.

Lars1701a
08-27-2009, 02:35 PM
Now come on you guys, brain cancer is a terrible way to go.

Imagine spending your entire life attempting to turn the US into a communist satellite and then in your last days, getting the nickname "Spongebrain Messypants".

Nice :)

Lanie
08-27-2009, 02:37 PM
Fistfights are for pussies. Knifefights on the other hand, I would never pass up.

Knifefights are for pussies. :p

Speedy
08-27-2009, 02:45 PM
Now come on you guys, brain cancer is a terrible way to go.

Imagine spending your entire life attempting to turn the US into a communist satellite and then in your last days, getting the nickname "Spongebrain Messypants".

My dad died in April of 2007. He had lung cancer and one day when I was visiting him in the hospital, he said something completely off the wall. I left it at that but the next day, it was worse. I told the doctor and the doctor had a CAT scan scheduled the next day. His cancer had spread to his brain. He was placed into hospice care within a week his mind was completely gone a week later he died.

Yes, brain cancer is a terrible way to go, but the Democrats can kiss my ass if they think that any legislation should now be passed "in honor" of Asshat Teddy! Fuck that! Legislation should pass on it's own merits or not pass at all.

You know that everyone who is brought on to speak at these "tributes" to Kennedy won't be alble to say it without mentioning Healthcare Reform.

BadCat
08-27-2009, 03:16 PM
My dad died in April of 2007. He had lung cancer and one day when I was visiting him in the hospital, he said something completely off the wall. I left it at that but the next day, it was worse. I told the doctor and the doctor had a CAT scan scheduled the next day. His cancer had spread to his brain. He was placed into hospice care within a week his mind was completely gone a week later he died.

Yes, brain cancer is a terrible way to go, but the Democrats can kiss my ass if they think that any legislation should now be passed "in honor" of Asshat Teddy! Fuck that! Legislation should pass on it's own merits or not pass at all.

You know that everyone who is brought on to speak at these "tributes" to Kennedy won't be alble to say it without mentioning Healthcare Reform.

Yeah, my post probably sounds meaner than I meant it. It's a bad, bad way to go, even for Ted.

Of course, Ted had the best health care his fortune could buy, what he wanted for the rest of America is "take a pill and die".

PoliCon
08-27-2009, 04:27 PM
I pray for the family during their time of grief and for mercy on this man's soul, mercy that I hope for when I stand before the judgement seat of God.

He's catholic so you can rest assured that he will be spending a VERY long time in purgatory. :D

Speedy
08-27-2009, 05:00 PM
Knifefights are for pussies. :p

On two different occassions, the person I stabbed had a gun.

BadCat
08-27-2009, 05:04 PM
On two different occassions, the person I stabbed had a gun.

Most people don't know about the "7 yard rule".

AmPat
08-27-2009, 07:52 PM
Bring it Lying Beagle! Oh, is this you toughguy?http://www.tothepointnews.com/images/stories/homoterr.jpg

SarasotaRepub
08-27-2009, 08:48 PM
I find that pic most disturbing!!! :eek::D

megimoo
08-27-2009, 09:01 PM
I find that pic most disturbing!!! :eek::DWhy, I'll bet it thinks it's beautiful !

Jumpy
08-27-2009, 10:01 PM
I don't think we can say he never was remorseful.

While I agree that a man who does that shouldn't be Senator, he did do some good things. Helping out with children's healthcare was one of them.

Hypocrisy indeed. As soon as a righty dies, and they piss on their graves, people here will complain about it. And vice versa. Like sands through the hour glass, so are the Days of Our Lives. Anytime somebody dies, the other side pisses on their grave. Then, that side gets self-righteous as if their side doesn't do it. All bunch of dumbass hypocrites.
bullshit. Kennedy, the swimmer, the cheater in college, and our reactions do not equal Ronald Reagan dying and the lefty response.

Kennedy never showed remorse, he was the weakling in his family... the man had no character.

Lanie
08-27-2009, 11:19 PM
bullshit. Kennedy, the swimmer, the cheater in college, and our reactions do not equal Ronald Reagan dying and the lefty response.

Kennedy never showed remorse, he was the weakling in his family... the man had no character.

What's bullshit is you all's hypocrisy on the subject. It's not okay to piss on the graves of those on your side, but it's okay to piss on the graves of those on my side. Do you think everybody thought Reagan had character? No. Don't even get me started on Jesse Helms.

I am consistent. I tend to think that as long as it's not somebody we personally knew, then others shouldn't take it so personally. I didn't know Ted Kennedy, so I don't take it personally. I'm just annoyed at the hypocrisy (not just here, but DU as well). Grave dancing is either okay or it's not. It's okay for your side and wrong for the other side. You all need to like grow up some.

On another note, I think there's a difference between grave dancing and criticizing the dead. I'm not happy partiular people are dead, but I don't think their death should give them a pass to not be criticized.

Lanie
08-27-2009, 11:21 PM
On two different occassions, the person I stabbed had a gun.

Were you legally in the right?

Shannon
08-27-2009, 11:58 PM
What's bullshit is you all's hypocrisy on the subject. It's not okay to piss on the graves of those on your side, but it's okay to piss on the graves of those on my side. Do you think everybody thought Reagan had character? No. Don't even get me started on Jesse Helms.

I am consistent. I tend to think that as long as it's not somebody we personally knew, then others shouldn't take it so personally. I didn't know Ted Kennedy, so I don't take it personally. I'm just annoyed at the hypocrisy (not just here, but DU as well). Grave dancing is either okay or it's not. It's okay for your side and wrong for the other side. You all need to like grow up some.

On another note, I think there's a difference between grave dancing and criticizing the dead. I'm not happy partiular people are dead, but I don't think their death should give them a pass to not be criticized.

Bridget, dear...are you completely insane? Ted Kennedy was a vile piece of shit. He was responsible for the death of a young woman. Do you disagree?

Speedy
08-28-2009, 12:28 AM
Were you legally in the right?

I was legally in the right both times. Morally I was not in the right one of those times because I set the guy up and he really had no chance.

The first one was a car jacker who dragged me from my vehicle at gunpoint. As I got out, I unclipped my knife from my belt, opened it, and when I turned toward him, I stabbed him in the midsection. I got back in my truck and took off. In my rearview I could see the cars going around him as they saw what happened. They knew the guy had it coming.

The second guy came after me outside a bar because of a woman. I saw him pull his gun and hide it behind his back as he approached. I had already sized him up as a poser who would use his gun to threaten me but would not have the balls to shoot. I let him approach, when he brought the gun out I locked his arm and we were chest to chest. I stabbed him about 14 times. The last few times I held him up and kept him from falling because I was not done with him yet. My brother in law and I hauled ass to the motel, I changed out of my bloody clothes and we skeedaddled back across the border from Mexico to Texas.

Lanie
08-28-2009, 06:18 AM
Bridget, dear...are you completely insane? Ted Kennedy was a vile piece of shit. He was responsible for the death of a young woman. Do you disagree?

No. There is no evidence that he didn't regret that death. I think a person should be remembered for the good and not just the bad.

And I'm sorry, but do you realize that the reason why some people picked on Reagan was because they viewed him as responsible for unncessary deaths as well? Seriously, some of the stuff he did in the name of stopping Communism was really wrong. I personally still can't find it in me to like Reagan.

You all seem to think everybody views these politicians from your point of view and are just rebelling. You're wrong.

FlaGator
08-28-2009, 06:28 AM
bullshit. Kennedy, the swimmer, the cheater in college, and our reactions do not equal Ronald Reagan dying and the lefty response.

Kennedy never showed remorse, he was the weakling in his family... the man had no character.

The response is sub human no matter who dies. Both sides generally cross the line when it comes to someone they don't like dying and each side feels justified in doing so.

FlaGator
08-28-2009, 06:30 AM
Bridget, dear...are you completely insane? Ted Kennedy was a vile piece of shit. He was responsible for the death of a young woman. Do you disagree?

I do not know that he didn't ask God to forgive him because that is between Ted and God. If he did and meant it sincerely then God forgave him.

Sonnabend
08-28-2009, 07:10 AM
I do not know that he didn't ask God to forgive him because that is between Ted and God. If he did and meant it sincerely then God forgave him

He never had the guts to admit what he did. He lied when he went to court, he lied in his statements, and he never admitted that he had in fact left a woman to drown.

I have no sympathy for drunk drivers.

I have no sympathy for those who drink, drive and kill. Personally, I would like to see any drunk driver given a life ban and a ten year jail sentence.

Minimum.

I am only sorry the snivelliing coward never had the balls, even in his last days, to approach the Kopechne family and atone for his callous deeds.He died as he had lived, a coward and a liar.

I do not celebrate his death....but I will never forgive him.

PoliCon
08-28-2009, 06:09 PM
bullshit. Kennedy, the swimmer, the cheater in college, and our reactions do not equal Ronald Reagan dying and the lefty response.

Kennedy never showed remorse, he was the weakling in his family... the man had no character.

The man was contemptible.

PoliCon
08-28-2009, 06:09 PM
No. There is no evidence that he didn't regret that death. I think a person should be remembered for the good and not just the bad. okay - what good?

geogo3r
08-28-2009, 06:25 PM
I'm assuming nobody archived the thread on DU?

Lanie
08-28-2009, 07:42 PM
First of all, he did admit he was wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy


"I regard as indefensible the fact that I did not report the accident to the police immediately", but denied driving under the influence of alcohol and denied any immoral conduct between him and Kopechne.[46] Kennedy asked the Massachusetts electorate whether he should stay in office and, after getting a favorable response, he did so.[46]


It is possible to believe you're not drunk. He did apologize for not reporting the incident at first. He also asked if he should stay in his position. I personally would have said no, but the point is he asked.


In October 1971, Kennedy made his first speech about The Troubles in Northern Ireland: he said that "Ulster is becoming Britain's Vietnam", demanded that British troops leave the northern counties, called for a united Ireland,[54] and declared that Protestants who could not accept this "should be given a decent opportunity to go back to Britain" (a position he backed away from within a couple of years).[55] Kennedy was harshly criticized by the British, and formed a long political relationship with Irish Social Democratic and Labour Party founder John Hume.[54] In scores of anti-war speeches, Kennedy opposed President Richard Nixon's policy of Vietnamization, calling it "a policy of violence [that] means more and more war."[50] In December 1971, Kennedy strongly criticized the Nixon administration's support for Pakistan and its ignoring of "the brutal and systematic repression of East Bengal by the Pakistani army".[56] He traveled to India and wrote a report on the plight of the 10 million Bengali refugees.[57] In February 1972, Kennedy flew to Bangladesh and delivered a speech at Dhaka University, where a killing rampage had begun a year earlier.[57]



Some may not view this as good, some would.

and again.


Meanwhile, Kennedy renewed his efforts for national health insurance. While proposing a single-payer solution favored by organized labor, he also negotiated with the Nixon administration on their preferred employer-based, HMO-oriented solution.[63] The two sides could not come to agreement, and Kennedy would later regret not seizing upon the Nixon plan.[64] In the wake of the Watergate scandal, Kennedy pushed campaign finance reform; he was a leading force behind passage of the Federal Election Campaign Act Amendments of 1974, which set contribution limits and established public financing for presidential elections.[65][66] In April 1974, Kennedy travelled to the Soviet Union, where he met with leader Leonid Brezhnev and advocated a full nuclear test ban as well as relaxed emigration, gave a speech at Moscow State University, met with Soviet dissidents, and secured an exit visa for famed cellist Mstislav Rostropovich.[67] Kennedy's Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees continued to focus on Vietnam, especially after the Fall of Saigon in 1975.[50]



And I mentioned children's healthcare earlier. Just because some of you all didn't see some of it as good doesn't mean others feel the same.

Rockntractor
08-28-2009, 07:57 PM
I also heard he petted a puppy once back in 73 but I don't have a link!

Rockntractor
08-28-2009, 08:07 PM
First of all, he did admit he was wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy



It is possible to believe you're not drunk. He did apologize for not reporting the incident at first. He also asked if he should stay in his position. I personally would have said no, but the point is he asked.



Some may not view this as good, some would.

and again.



And I mentioned children's healthcare earlier. Just because some of you all didn't see some of it as good doesn't mean others feel the same.

He is not an easy one to defend but you gave it a shot. Just one question to see how sure you are that he was a good man. When you die do you want to go where he is now?

Bubba Dawg
08-28-2009, 08:29 PM
I find that pic most disturbing!!! :eek::D

http://www.tothepointnews.com/images/stories/homoterr.jpg

Me too. The bag so doesn't go with the shoes.

Rockntractor
08-28-2009, 08:32 PM
http://www.tothepointnews.com/images/stories/homoterr.jpg

Me too. The bag so doesn't go with the shoes.

You probably shave your legs too!

PoliCon
08-28-2009, 08:37 PM
First of all, he did admit he was wrong. He admitted he was sorry that he couldn't sweep it under the carpet better. That's not the same as admitting he was wrong.



And I mentioned children's healthcare earlier. Just because some of you all didn't see some of it as good doesn't mean others feel the same. I seem to remember that it was a republican president who made that possible.

Kennedy was always self serving. He had a long habit of taking credit for other peoples work going all the way back to his school days. He was an elitist of the worst kind - the kind that had no redeeming qualities.

Sonnabend
08-28-2009, 09:35 PM
He did apologize for not reporting the incident at first. He also asked if he should stay in his position

He never admitted he drove drunk and left a woman to die."reported the accident"...he walked past a dfire station and a police station, both of whom could have saved her. All he was concerned with was his sorry ass and his career.

Show me where he went to the Kopechne family and admitted to them what he had done, show me where he showed ANY remorse for her death whatsoever.

The man was scum.