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Gingersnap
09-09-2009, 01:13 PM
Forming the ‘Leave Me Alone’ Party

by Mike Baron

“Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.” –Michelle Obama

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There is a right not specifically spelled out in the Bill of Rights but implicit in every restriction on the federal government: the right to be left alone. Our nation was founded by individuals seeking relief from overbearing governments and religions. Rugged individualism isn’t merely a conceit of John Wayne movies. It has been and will continue to be a way of life for Americans who believe this nation was founded on the rights of the individual. Not the rights of government.

Yet today we are saddled with the most overbearing, intrusive government in American history, a gang of socialist ideologues who seek to exercise control over every facet of human existence including our food, the education of our children, and our exercise habits. People may argue where this urge to control the lives of others originates, but there can be no doubt that the present administration does not see individual liberties when they look at the constitution. They see the governments’ rights and the subjects’ obligations. They have turned the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights on its ear.

They see individuals only in terms of how much money they can squeeze from each citizen. This government reminds me of Zieffer Meird, the intergalactic slaver from my science fiction comic Nexus. Zieffer captured people, decapitated them, and found a way to keep the heads alive to use as batteries. Obama would like to be Zeiffer Meird. He seeks to silence the individual. Shut up and pay your taxes. The only voices to whom he will listen are groups: the trial lawyers, SEIU, UAW, ACORN, the usual suspects.

Never the individual. Always the group.

Bad news for Pharoah. Most Americans see themselves as individuals, save for those benighted creatures who traded their souls for lifelong government employment. (I except my hard-working sister who has been a devoted climatologist since 1973. We disagree about “climate change.”) Government is the only area with jobs growth and most of those jobs are to facilitate either the collection of taxes or the doling out of pork to special groups under the guise of “stimulus.”

What “progressives” fail to understand is that the reason the United States is the greatest nation on earth is because of individual effort in the private sector. All our wealth, our ability to field armies, deliver disaster relief, build schools and highways comes from money earned in the private sector. Yet these fools continue to grow the public sector like a giant cancer on the shoulders of every American left out of the government gravy train.

So I’m positing a very old party: the Leave Me Alone party. I’m happy to pay taxes if they are reasonable and they go toward legitimate government functions as spelled out in the Constitution and limited in the Bill of Rights. But I’ll be damned if I’m going to be forced to pony up to provide some government drone a luxurious retirement.

The Republicans could become the Leave Me Alone party, but that would require some deep soul-searching on their part. In the meantime, millions of Americans will vote like me, searching for a ray of light in the shit storm of government growth, bureaucracy and parasitism.

Sign me up. Let's also add a provision that when the 'Leave me alone" party is power, we will get rid of three useless laws for every one law we enact.

Big Hollywood (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mbaron/2009/09/09/forming-the-leave-me-alone-party/)

Rockntractor
09-09-2009, 01:22 PM
Sign me up. Let's also add a provision that when the 'Leave me alone" party is power, we will get rid of three useless laws for every one law we enact.

Big Hollywood (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mbaron/2009/09/09/forming-the-leave-me-alone-party/)
AMEN!

Milly
09-09-2009, 01:29 PM
I'm in. too.

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 01:40 PM
It sounds nice, but it's almost entirely fantasy.

There is no conceivable series of events that ends in the Republicans turning into the Leave Me Alone party. None. The idea is too absurd even to laugh at.

Do most Americans see themselves as individuals? Sure. Most of them are also lying to themselves and everyone else. They're as in love with government as any self described collective over the individual progressive. Maybe they don't want any free handouts for anyone, but they're more than happy to tax their fellow citizens to pay for the DEA or NASA or whatever their favorite government agency happens to be or to throw them in jail for doing things they don't like. For the good of society, you know.

Wanting to be left alone by the government is all well and good, but being willing to leave everyone else alone is the real key.

Rockntractor
09-09-2009, 01:43 PM
It sounds nice, but it's almost entirely fantasy.

There is no conceivable series of events that ends in the Republicans turning into the Leave Me Alone party. None. The idea is too absurd even to laugh at.

Do most Americans see themselves as individuals? Sure. Most of them are also lying to themselves and everyone else. They're as in love with government as any self described collective over the individual progressive. Maybe they don't want any free handouts for anyone, but they're more than happy to tax their fellow citizens to pay for the DEA or NASA or whatever their favorite government agency happens to be or to throw them in jail for doing things they don't like. For the good of society, you know.

Wanting to be left alone by the government is all well and good, but being willing to leave everyone else alone is the real key.
You are the eternal optimist!

BSR
09-09-2009, 03:37 PM
You are the eternal optimist!

A ray of sunshine, he is... :cool:

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 03:52 PM
Do most Americans see themselves as individuals? Sure. Most of them are also lying to themselves and everyone else. They're as in love with government as any self described collective over the individual progressive. Maybe they don't want any free handouts for anyone, but they're more than happy to tax their fellow citizens to pay for the DEA or NASA or whatever their favorite government agency happens to be or to throw them in jail for doing things they don't like. For the good of society, you know.

Exactly what is wrong with that?

BadCat
09-09-2009, 04:19 PM
Exactly what is wrong with that?

Damn boy, you are one Grade A Prime Idiot.

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 04:40 PM
You are the eternal optimist! A ray of sunshine, he is... :cool:

I prefer to think of myself as a realist.

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 04:41 PM
Exactly what is wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with it if you hold society to be more important than the individual. I do not.

AmPat
09-09-2009, 04:54 PM
Exactly what is wrong with that?

On the Van Jones resignation: Only in liberal minds can you believe that a conspiracy forced you to resign using your own words against you.:cool:;)

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 07:39 PM
There's nothing wrong with it if you hold society to be more important than the individual. I do not.

It'd be one thing if you thought what was best for the individual was best for the whole, but you're just a narcissistic troglodyte. Wake up on the wrong side of the cave this morning?

SaintLouieWoman
09-09-2009, 07:51 PM
Just let me alone is my constant comment at work. I'll do my job, just leave me alone. The same thing goes with the government.

A friend keeps saying she thinks it's OK for the feds to say what temp you can set your AC and furnace in your own home----for the good of the environment, of course. She also thinks it's OK for the gov't to say citizens can't buy SUV's---to cut down on gasoline usage. I asked her what she doesn't understand about individual liberties. She never does have an answer for that one.

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 08:04 PM
It'd be one thing if you thought what was best for the individual was best for the whole, but you're just a narcissistic troglodyte. Wake up on the wrong side of the cave this morning?

If I thought what was best for the individual was best for the whole then I wouldn't be putting the individual first, now would I? It would just be a convenient side effect of the same old society first argument your ilk makes. Then I could parade around pretending to care about individual rights while actively working against the same. In other words, I'd be a Republican.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Where do you expect to draw the line when it comes to individual rights?

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 08:13 PM
Where do you expect to draw the line when it comes to individual rights?

What line?

BadCat
09-09-2009, 08:22 PM
What line?

Good one.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 09:05 PM
What line?

Like when the guy in the apartment above me decides he wants to make a methlab in his living room. And one day that meth lab explodes and ruins the lives of nearly every one else in the building.

I'm talking about the capacity of unlimited freedom to destroy this country.

BadCat
09-09-2009, 09:15 PM
Like when the guy in the apartment above me decides he wants to make a methlab in his living room. And one day that meth lab explodes and ruins the lives of nearly every one else in the building.

I'm talking about the capacity of unlimited freedom to destroy this country.

Give me his address and I'll send him some brake fluid.
If he takes you out, it's a good thing.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 09:16 PM
Give me his address and I'll send him some brake fluid.
If he takes you out, it's a good thing.

Vigilante justice doesn't work.

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Like when the guy in the apartment above me decides he wants to make a methlab in his living room. And one day that meth lab explodes and ruins the lives of nearly every one else in the building.

I'm talking about the capacity of unlimited freedom to destroy this country.

What's stopping him now?

BadCat
09-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Vigilante justice doesn't work.

Works fine for me.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 09:42 PM
What's stopping him now?

Laws and stuff. Police. Government.

Things you hate.

FeebMaster
09-09-2009, 09:58 PM
Laws and stuff. Police. Government.

Things you hate.

Got some bad news for you, dude...

Crystal Wizard
09-09-2009, 10:07 PM
All of a sudden conservatives are for smaller government. Does this include getting the government out of the bedroom, out of the liquor closet, out of the drug enforcement business (remember St. Ronnie's "War on Drugs")? I drove down to NJ yesterday and listened to some right wing whacky-whacky who was lamenting that one representative in congress represents 750,000 people (or some such number). This, the whacky-whacky said, is totally against the founding principles. I wonder if he was screaming so mightedly in 2004 when the ratio was probably about 1 rep to 725,000 people, but the R's controlled things. F**king hypocrites.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 10:13 PM
Got some bad news for you, dude...
Lucky for me I value your insane viewpoints in pretty low regard.

Crystal Wizard
09-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Lucky for me I value your insane viewpoints in pretty low regard.

Actually, Feebs is one of the saner members of this board.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 10:16 PM
Actually, Feebs is one of the saner members of this board.

At face value, sure. But his ideology is about as whacked-out as they come.

megimoo
09-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Laws and stuff. Police. Government.

Things you hate.You are fearful of an American revolution you little pussy .I doubt that you even have your green card and have little knowledge of what it means to be an American with an all abiding zeal for freedom and the courage to protect it .

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 10:24 PM
You are fearful of an American revolution you little pussy.
Yup, I am scared of violence ruining everything this country has accomplished because some people are sore losers.

Crystal Wizard
09-09-2009, 10:31 PM
Yup, I am scared of violence ruining everything this country has accomplished because some people are sore losers.

You can't use the term "sore losers" because, you see, that "sore losers" were the Democrats in 2000 and 2004. Republicans can never be "sore losers" because their cause is just and right. After all, God gave them the directions.

Suit&Tie
09-09-2009, 10:33 PM
After all, God gave them the directions.
Ahhh I heard about one of those, you fly down to Argentina on state funds right?

megimoo
09-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Yup, I am scared of violence ruining everything this country has accomplished because some people are sore losers.
Obama = One Big Ass Mistake America !This guy is in way over his head.He hasn't a clue .Those who advise him are advocating pushing back twice as hard on Americans who are rightfully protesting their Failing Government .Those are all of the ingredients needed for a rebellion don't you think ?.

Phillygirl
09-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Lucky for me I value your insane viewpoints in pretty low regard.

I think you mean "hold your insane viewpoints in pretty low regard".

Crystal Wizard
09-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Ahhh I heard about one of those, you fly down to Argentina on state funds right?

Well, you know. Republicans take the heat when they screw up while Democrats just ride it out. That's of course because R's are righteous and with God. You know, like Craig and Sanford and Vitter and Ensign as compared to Spitzer and McGreevey. Oh, wait...

megimoo
09-09-2009, 11:51 PM
I think you mean "hold your insane viewpoints in pretty low regard".English is his second language !

megimoo
09-10-2009, 12:33 AM
Just let me alone is my constant comment at work. I'll do my job, just leave me alone. The same thing goes with the government.

A friend keeps saying she thinks it's OK for the feds to say what temp you can set your AC and furnace in your own home----for the good of the environment, of course. She also thinks it's OK for the gov't to say citizens can't buy SUV's---to cut down on gasoline usage. I asked her what she doesn't understand about individual liberties. She never does have an answer for that one.
But you can't 'opt out 'of the great debate that is America.Either you join it, express your opinion and vote on it or we all lose.

Freedom isn't free and needs to always be protected from those who would change our great country.
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The 'mindless ones' who allow the government to rule their lives have always been with us and as Sam Adams advised them to 'suck up' to their masters but to forget that they were ever our kinsmen and free Americans.
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Never forget that Governments were established by us to be our servants and as man corrupts all that he touches they now think that they are our masters.

As Thomas Jefferson said in a Letter to James Madison "A Little Rebellion Now and Then Is A Good Thing" and again .
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There will always be those who will see great opportunity in forcing a change in America for power,wealth or just for political ideology but always the power follows !
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Oh I know that The American dream can't last forever but it is well worth fighting for it and preserving it for as long as possible !

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Famous Quotes from a great American Thomas Jefferson !

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.

The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive.

If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...

And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance?

Let them take arms.The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them.

What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

It is its natural manure."

Gingersnap
09-10-2009, 09:55 AM
Laws and stuff. Police. Government.

Things you hate.

LOL! Good one! "Laws and stuff" are terrific for people who have some kind of regard for them. They are also useful in assigning penalties for some behaviors. The police are also helpful in assisting D.A.s although the police don't have any kind of mandate to protect you from your tweaker neighbor.

Maybe if your neighbor could just set up a normal lab in an industrial park and get deliveries of ordinary lab supplies to make his crystal, he's be less interested in experiments that would take out your apartment as collateral damage.