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ralph wiggum
07-16-2008, 12:42 AM
tmfun (1000+ posts)
Wed Jul-16-08 12:12 AM
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Your employer didn't pay shit for your benefits (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3626284)

I just got my benefit statement from the United States department of Social Security. In the taxpayer paid for missive was a number of paragraphs telling me that "My employer" had made substantial contributions, etc. etc. blah, blah, blah. They try to sell the same chamber of commerce, pseudo capitalist bullshit about unemployment insurance and I can't believe how the masses drink the cool-aid.

Lets get this straight. Your employer DOES NOT PAY FOR SHIT! YOU, the worker, provide a service to your employer that your employer finds valuable enough
that he can sell it at a profit. Your employer sells your labor at a high enough profit that all of your benefits, along with your employer's overhead, which often includes season tickets to the game, lunches, dinners and assorted "business related" junkets, his cell phone bill, his gas card, etc., along with a profit, are included.

The capitalist, government entities would have you believe that your employer, out of the goodness of his black, capitalist heart, grants you extra money to help you pay for S.S.I., S.DI., unemployment insurance and all of the rest of the things they take out of your check every week. This is bullshit.

It is all your money. You earned it. It was not gifted to you by your employer! Think I'm wrong? Ask yourself this. When has your employer EVER, magnanimously, continued to pay into these funds AFTER you have been laid off, fired or quit your job? Bottom line. If you don't earn the money for your employer, your employer won't give you squat!

It's not his money, it's yours. You are the one who gave up days of your life to earn it.

And the next time, at the unemployment office, when some minimum wage cube rat tries to tell you how gracious your employer was to have paid into this fund for you, don't let them make you feel guilty and grateful. Let them know that you know that it was YOU, not your employer, who paid for these benefits!.

The lack of economic knowledge of the DUmmies again astounds me. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ranger Rick
07-16-2008, 01:00 AM
The lack of economic knowledge of the DUmmies again astounds me. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It is not a lack of economic knowledge, it is a lack of history and maybe a little tax knowledge missing.

During WWII pay was frozen, company's were allowed to give benefits to hire/reward people. The benefits are not taxed. People have come to expected the benefits as part of the job compensation.

Constitutionally Speaking
07-16-2008, 05:37 AM
It is not a lack of economic knowledge, it is a lack of history and maybe a little tax knowledge missing.

During WWII pay was frozen, company's were allowed to give benefits to hire/reward people. The benefits are not taxed. People have come to expected the benefits as part of the job compensation.

Yep, and the unintended consequences of this is that we have a health care system that has removed the consumer from the role of comparative shopper.

We would have been far better off if wages were not frozen and people shopped for the health care that suited them. Instead we semi-socialized it and removed the best cost control and quality enhancing mechanism we had.

Thanks once again to the big government solutions of FDR. :mad:

gator
07-16-2008, 06:28 AM
When you read that post above you get a great example of the stupidity of a Liberal. They don’t have a clue.

I look at the amount my employer pays as part of my compensation because if he didn't pay it I would have to. If you don't believe me just ask anyone that is self employed.

Recently I looked at my SS statement and saw that my contribution (including employer) since 1966 totaled to well over $200K. It doesn't take much of a math wizard to understand that I will be lucky to recover my principal. The interest on the account this has been spent by a socialist government. I'll never see it and I have been cheated out of it as far as I am concerned. Had that money been allowed to be invested at conservative rates my account would be over a million dollars.

movie buff
07-16-2008, 07:52 AM
It is not a lack of economic knowledge, it is a lack of history and maybe a little tax knowledge missing.

During WWII pay was frozen, company's were allowed to give benefits to hire/reward people. The benefits are not taxed. People have come to expected the benefits as part of the job compensation.

Well, he also clearly DOES have a lack of economic knowledge, to bash capitalism as evil incarnate the way he does.

Shannon
07-16-2008, 08:26 AM
And the next time, at the unemployment office, when some minimum wage cube rat

That line just struck me as funny. What a dipshit.:rolleyes: