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linda22003
09-16-2009, 11:21 AM
What's in: extend health insurance to tens of millions of Americans not now covered; creation of a network of nonprofit health insurance cooperatives; limits on nasty insurance company practices.

What's out: the public option

What's changed: employers with more than 50 full-time workers would pay a $400 fee for each employee if they don't offer health insurance. The fee would be triggered if any employees apply for federal tax credits to buy coverage. This is a significant reduction from the House bill that would penalize companies up to 8% of payroll if they didn't offer insurance.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/16/business/econwatch/entry5314891.shtml

Gingersnap
09-16-2009, 11:28 AM
What's also in: huge tax increases for the middle class.

What's also out: Olympia Snowe.

:p

linda22003
09-16-2009, 11:29 AM
I'll post better synopses as I see them.

lacarnut
09-16-2009, 11:33 AM
What's in: extend health insurance to tens of millions of Americans not now covered; creation of a network of nonprofit health insurance cooperatives; limits on nasty insurance company practices.

What's out: the public option

What's changed: employers with more than 50 full-time workers would pay a $400 fee for each employee if they don't offer health insurance. The fee would be triggered if any employees apply for federal tax credits to buy coverage. This is a significant reduction from the House bill that would penalize companies up to 8% of payroll if they didn't offer insurance.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/16/business/econwatch/entry5314891.shtml

Anyone that believes that co-ops or any other back door government plan is not the first step to installing a public option is a fool. Republicans would be wise to support a few reforms such as malpractice, competition across state lines, etc.

BadCat
09-16-2009, 11:43 AM
Anyone that believes that co-ops or any other back door government plan is not the first step to installing a public option is a fool. Republicans would be wise to support a few reforms such as malpractice, competition across state lines, etc.

To their credit, they have tried.
The Dims shoot it down in the committees.

linda22003
09-16-2009, 11:44 AM
Here's the full text of the Baucus bill. Good news - it's down from 1018 pages to just 223!

http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf

lacarnut
09-16-2009, 11:56 AM
Here's the full text of the Baucus bill. Good news - it's down from 1018 pages to just 223!

http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf

The bill is still a stinking turd that none (ZERO) of the 3 Republican members out of the gang of 6 will support/vote for. Note, there is no good news in this Obamanation.

marv
09-16-2009, 12:54 PM
lacarnut is correct. Co-op is just another way to spell "public option".

"Non-profit" is a heads-up!

Just like other government sponsored co-ops (e.g., agricultural co-ops by the USDA), they'll be chartered or otherwise licensed to practice by the Federal government who will set the parameters of operation.

The only real improvement of the Baucus plan is saving trees and printer's ink!

lacarnut
09-16-2009, 03:10 PM
Even the Unions are against the Baucus Health Care bill because it taxes the so called Cadillac plans. In other words, the tax is placed on the insurance company that provide these extravagant plans to top Exec. and unions. Anyone that believes that the insurance company will not pass this cost of doing business to the consumer is living in la la land. This is a back door plan to hide the fact that the cost will not be borne by the taxpayer. Liar, liar. Dummiecrats.

AmPat
09-16-2009, 06:44 PM
DOA

DIMS are poised to run from this Obamination. At least the smart ones. They support this, they can begin job hunting.

stsinner
09-16-2009, 06:52 PM
On page 25 abortion is still in.

Rockntractor
09-16-2009, 07:58 PM
On page 25 abortion is still in.
I'm honestly surprised that sex change operations aren't included! Or are they?

stsinner
09-17-2009, 10:45 AM
Here's the full text of the Baucus bill. Good news - it's down from 1018 pages to just 223!


Does it bother anyone else that Obama's bill was 1018 pages, Baucus's bill is 223 pages and the Constitution is about 15 pages long?

lacarnut
09-17-2009, 10:55 AM
Here's the full text of the Baucus bill. Good news - it's down from 1018 pages to just 223!

http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf

Bullshit: The Baucus bill is a 223 page Summary. Like the House bill, it will total close to a 1,000 pages.

BadCat
09-17-2009, 11:26 AM
I am genuinely surprised that the good people of Montana elected that idiot.