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megimoo
09-18-2009, 01:13 AM
"Homosexuality is one of the most disgusting sins and greatest crimes.... It is a vile perversion that goes against sound nature, and is one of the most corrupting and hideous sins....

The punishment for homosexuality is death. Both the active and passive participants are to be killed whether or not they have previously had sexual intercourse in the context of a legal marriage.... Some of the companions of the Prophet stated that [the perpetrator] is to be burned with fire. It has also been said that he should be stoned, or thrown from a high place." Saudi Textbook Jurisprudence (Fiqh)

When Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke at Columbia University two years ago, declared that there were no Homosexuals in Iran. Many people (including me) thought it a joke.

The real reason the Iranian mass-murderer said that there were no Homosexuals in Iran is that being gay in Iran is a capital offense punishable by death.

But its not just Iran and Saudi Arabia, Homosexuality is a crime in most of the fundamental Islamic world

According to a pamphlet produced by Al-Fatiha, there is a consensus among Islamic scholars that all humans are naturally heterosexual. Homosexuality is seen by scholars to be a sinful and perverted deviation from the norm.

All Islamic schools of thought and jurisprudence consider gay acts to be unlawful. The Companions of Prophet Muhammad held various views concerning punishment. The fatwa cited by IslamOnline.net states:

"....this led to different views maintained by Muslim Jurists. For example:


* In the Hanafi school of thought, the homosexual is punished through harsh beating, and if he/she repeats the act, death penalty is to be applied.

* As for the Shafi`i school of thought, the homosexual receives the same punishment of adultery (if he/she is married) or fornication (if not married). This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times.

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/09/homophobia-in-islamic-world-religion-of.html

Rockntractor
09-18-2009, 01:21 AM
I thought we were the intolerant ones.

megimoo
09-18-2009, 01:27 AM
I thought we were the intolerant ones.

"We ought to deed San Francisco to the Muslim Horde for a few weeks !"

Rockntractor
09-18-2009, 01:28 AM
"We ought to deed San Francisco to the Muslim Horde for a few weeks !"

Wilbur and night owl wouldn't like that!

megimoo
09-18-2009, 01:51 AM
Wilbur and night owl wouldn't like that!
I think that Wilbur is really Sir Elton Hercules John and the Owl is its consort !

CueSi
09-18-2009, 03:54 AM
I can't tell if anyone here hates them because they would kill us, or like them because they would and DO kill them.

~QC

linda22003
09-18-2009, 08:04 AM
"We ought to deed San Francisco to the Muslim Horde for a few weeks !"

Do you really think death is the appropriate punishment for homosexuality? This is a serious question.

noonwitch
09-18-2009, 08:58 AM
I thought we were the intolerant ones.


I support gay people's rights and all, but I know that people who don't aren't going to change their minds about it any time soon. What I don't get about the radical gays, the kind who protest in front of churches and such, is what do they think getting in the face of those who disagree with them is going to accomplish? And if the protesters do anything that one could call assault, doesn't that make them guilty of the same thing they are accusing their opponents of doing?

Gingersnap
09-18-2009, 09:51 AM
I support gay people's rights and all, but I know that people who don't aren't going to change their minds about it any time soon. What I don't get about the radical gays, the kind who protest in front of churches and such, is what do they think getting in the face of those who disagree with them is going to accomplish? And if the protesters do anything that one could call assault, doesn't that make them guilty of the same thing they are accusing their opponents of doing?

I don't actually know of any Christians who invade gay bars or clubs, shout down the DJ, and then do a little strategic property damage. I'm willing to believe it's possible that this has happened in the last 20 years but I just haven't heard about it.

I have no idea what they believe they can accomplish when they act like over-sexed toddlers in drag.

noonwitch
09-18-2009, 12:05 PM
I don't actually know of any Christians who invade gay bars or clubs, shout down the DJ, and then do a little strategic property damage. I'm willing to believe it's possible that this has happened in the last 20 years but I just haven't heard about it.

I have no idea what they believe they can accomplish when they act like over-sexed toddlers in drag.


I don't know too many gay people from work or church who do behave that way-that's why the ones who do piss me off.

pssvr
09-18-2009, 12:20 PM
I think we can summarize this train of thought as, "I don't know anyone in real life that acts like or shares the views of the people I see on TV."

I've met plenty of gays and plenty of anti-gay Christians, and never met a single one who walked around with a banner in the streets about it.