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megimoo
09-27-2009, 10:10 AM
"Now that Israel Has a Clear Path to Iran and Back and Tacit Arab Approval Why Wait ?"

Intelligence chief Sir John Scarlett has been told that Saudi Arabia is ready to allow Israel to bomb Iran's new nuclear site. The head of MI6 discussed the issue in London with Mossad chief Meir Dagan and Saudi officials after British intelligence officers helped to uncover the plant, in the side of a mountain near the ancient city of Qom. The site is seen as a major threat by Tel Aviv and Riyadh. Details of the talks emerged after John Bolton, America's former UN ambassador, told a meeting of intelligence analysts that "Riyadh certainly approves" of Israel's use of Saudi...

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/130251/Saudis-will-let-Israel-bomb-Iran-nuclear-site

AHeneen
09-30-2009, 02:21 AM
Most of you are probably thinking that this is good news. The BIG downside is the large conservative population in the KSA. I mean, this country is more conservative than Iran! Restaurants are segregated (single men and the 'families' sections), women must be escorted by their fathers or spouse when in public, women can't even drive (!), and apostates (people who leave the Muslim faith) are publically beheaded (heck...many criminals are publically executed every month). The King has a loyal following, but there are plenty of ayatollahs/immams/whatever-the-hell-they're-called who have been criticizing the government for being too soft. Can you imagine how the Muslim world would react if the country which contains Mecca & Medina were to support Israel in such a way!? I don't know about you, but such a precarious situation is eerily reminiscent of 1970s Iran. Just sayin'...

djones520
09-30-2009, 06:23 AM
Most of you are probably thinking that this is good news. The BIG downside is the large conservative population in the KSA. I mean, this country is more conservative than Iran! Restaurants are segregated (single men and the 'families' sections), women must be escorted by their fathers or spouse when in public, women can't even drive (!), and apostates (people who leave the Muslim faith) are publically beheaded (heck...many criminals are publically executed every month). The King has a loyal following, but there are plenty of ayatollahs/immams/whatever-the-hell-they're-called who have been criticizing the government for being too soft. Can you imagine how the Muslim world would react if the country which contains Mecca & Medina were to support Israel in such a way!? I don't know about you, but such a precarious situation is eerily reminiscent of 1970s Iran. Just sayin'...

Your forgetting that they Saudi Arabia is no real friend of Iran. KSA backed Iraq in the Iraq-Iran war, and as payback, Iran tried to have the Royal Family overthrown.

Look at it from a practicality viewpoint. There is little doubt that if Iran gets nukes, they'll hit Israel with them. Where do you think the fall out will go? It'll blow through Jordan, then all of northern Saudi Arabia. Then there is no gaurantee that they won't supply a bomb to some terrorists to set off in Riyadh or something like that. Politically, they don't want it happening either. Think of the tip of balance in that region. The only country in that region with nukes is Israel. All the Islamic nations military powers are based apon conventional weapons, so their all pretty much on equal footing. One of them gets nukes, then everyone else is suddenly a lot weaker.

It's in Saudi Arabia's best interest to make sure Iran does not get nukes.

megimoo
09-30-2009, 10:12 AM
Your forgetting that they Saudi Arabia is no real friend of Iran. KSA backed Iraq in the Iraq-Iran war, and as payback, Iran tried to have the Royal Family overthrown.

Look at it from a practicality viewpoint. There is little doubt that if Iran gets nukes, they'll hit Israel with them. Where do you think the fall out will go? It'll blow through Jordan, then all of northern Saudi Arabia. Then there is no gaurantee that they won't supply a bomb to some terrorists to set off in Riyadh or something like that. Politically, they don't want it happening either. Think of the tip of balance in that region. The only country in that region with nukes is Israel. All the Islamic nations military powers are based apon conventional weapons, so their all pretty much on equal footing. One of them gets nukes, then everyone else is suddenly a lot weaker.

It's in Saudi Arabia's best interest to make sure Iran does not get nukes.
For once we agree on something .

Have you ever considered the possibility that the Saudi's may already have nukes and are keeping very quiet about it .It would make sense in lite of the power play's going on in that part of the world.

The Saudi's also must consider Israel as being less of a danger to them than Iran !

Bin Laden is an Saudi-Wahhabi Islamist and the root cause of Islamist terrorism has been the Wahhabi ideology.

The other issue is Wahhabi Islam vs Shi'a Islam ,they are arch enemies and have been for a long time .The Islamic world is in a constant religious war between the two sects for dominance in the Middle East .

The Wahhabi Saudis consider Shi'a Islam as little better than the Christians and not true followers of Allah !

How Wahhabi Islam Differs from Sunni, Shia Islam
http://atheism.about.com/od/islamicsects/a/wahhabi.htm

Wahhabism, Wahhabi Islam
Founder: Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab

Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (d. 1792) was the first modern Islamic fundamentalist and extremists. Wahhab made the central point of his reform movement the principle that absolutely every idea added to Islam after the third century of the Mulsim era (about 950 CE) was false and should be eliminated. Muslims, in order to be true Muslims, must adhere solely and strictly to the original beliefs set forth by Muhammad.

The reason for this extremist stance, and the focus of Wahhab's reform efforts, was a number of popular practices which he believed represented a regression to pre-Islamic polytheism. These included praying to saints, making pilgrimages to tombs and special mosques, venerating trees, caves, and stones, and using votive and sacrificial offerings.
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There may not be quite as much diversity in Islam as in Christianity, but as with Christianity in the West there is a division between two significant players. In Western Christianity, the division is between Protestantism and Catholicism.

In Islam, the major division is between Sunni and Shia Muslims. Most critics recognize that it would make no sense to criticize Protestants by complaining about the pope, but not all realize that similar mistakes can be made with Islam as well.
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Sunni vs. Shia Islam
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_sunni.htm

Most statements about Islam apply to Sunni Islam, which represents the vast majority of Muslims. Although the differences between Sunni Islam and the various Shi'ite sects started out as political, the distinction between the two groups has gradually become more and more theological as well. Shia Muslims continue to hold the same fundamental beliefs of other Muslims, with the principle addition being that they also believe in an imamate, which is the distinctive institution of Shia Islam. The doctrine of the imamate was not fully developed until the 10th century and other dogmas developed still later.
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Sunni Muslims view the caliph as a temporal leader only and consider an imam to be a prayer leader, but for the Shia the historic caliphs were merely de facto rulers while the rightful and true leadership continued to be passed along through a sort of apostolic succession of Muhammad's descendants, the Imams (when capitalized, Imam refers to the Shia descendant of the House of Ali).
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