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BadCat
09-28-2009, 11:34 AM
This is the stuff that Zazi was trying to make....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide

It makes nitroglycerin look like milk in the "danger" department.

Usually used in detonators, a bomb made completely of acetone peroxide would cause some major nasty damage.

On the plus side, he stood a really good chance of immolating himself trying to make it.

Congrats to all the law enforcement agencies involved in taking this cretin out of circulation.

It's downright scary to google the term, there are videos on how to make it.

Should these types of videos and web pages be allowed?

Gingersnap
09-28-2009, 11:43 AM
Should these types of videos and web pages be allowed?

Yes. You can't conceal knowledge of chemistry or physics from the highly motivated people who have the necessary base skills to pull off the crime. The motivated people who don't have the skills will conveniently kill themselves.

Now, most sites would be doing themselves a big favor if they voluntarily banned this kind of material. This would cause would-be terrorists to be bottle-necked at a relatively few sites where they could be more easily tracked by law enforcement.

megimoo
09-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Yes. You can't conceal knowledge of chemistry or physics from the highly motivated people who have the necessary base skills to pull off the crime. The motivated people who don't have the skills will conveniently kill themselves.

Now, most sites would be doing themselves a big favor if they voluntarily banned this kind of material. This would cause would-be terrorists to be bottle-necked at a relatively few sites where they could be more easily tracked by law enforcement.

You can find detailed instructions for making black powder,Nitro Glycerin ,or TATP on the net .Any college chemistry major can make it as some bright high school kids have.

"A 13-year-old student in Hong Kong was injured on March 28, 2009 when he tried to light some TATP powder, which was provided by another 14-year-old boy and Police found six bottles of TATP from his apartment.

Police believe those bottles of TATP were homemade by the 14-year-old boy for curiosity's sake. Including the injured boy, 3 teenagers were later arrested on explosives possession charges."

basic chemistry and curiosity is all that you need .TATP is extremely unstable and risky to use .

"A member of the French anti-speed camera group, Front national anti-radars (FNAR), was hospitalised after losing both hands to an accidental explosion of his bomb based on TATP."

AlmostThere
09-28-2009, 03:00 PM
You can find detailed instructions for making black powder,Nitro Glycerin ,or TATP on the net .Any college chemistry major can make it as some bright high school kids have.

God Bless America!

Speedy
09-28-2009, 03:45 PM
Yes. You can't conceal knowledge of chemistry or physics from the highly motivated people who have the necessary base skills to pull off the crime. The motivated people who don't have the skills will conveniently kill themselves.

I was in prison with a guy who would take great offense if you called him a "meth cook." He was a chemist. He was making meth out of stuff that not even the DEA had any idea you could make meth out of. He even helped the DEA write some of it's handbooks in exchange for a lighter sentence.