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patriot45
10-16-2009, 03:30 PM
Well before my time! :D But this is cool, wish they had video of it, it would drive peta insane!
Diving horses! (http://www.petticoated.com/pdqwinter04/otherdocs/divinghorsesW04.html)



‘The High Diving Horses were always my favorite. I must have seen at least six of them over the years. They each had their own style of diving. One would wait a good five minutes before jumping - he would hold his head up and watch the seagulls fly by. Some dove with their front legs straight out, while others tucked up their legs as if they were going over a jump. One horse would twist in the air and land on his side, making it dangerous for his rider.

‘The riders (all women) would suffer one or two broken bones a year. Most of the injuries came from getting out of the pool of paddling hooves. They made it look easy, but it wasn’t. Years ago a rider by the name of Sonora Carver (in the late 1920’s) went blind from a bad impact with the water. The jump was sixty feet at that time, but was then lowered to forty.


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i230/patriot45270/divinghorse1W04.jpg

aerojarod
10-16-2009, 04:34 PM
The horse is high-diving. Your argument is irrelevent.

I have no idea what you're talking about so here's a picture of a horse high-diving.

...or something like that.

Weird what they did for entertainment before the days of basic cable, high speed internet, and streaming pr0n

SarasotaRepub
10-16-2009, 06:49 PM
Gotta love Jersey!!! :D

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:11 PM
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/divinghorse.jpg?t=1255734640

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:16 PM
http://gordons-corner.com/ARTICLE060402.html


High Diving Horses
2 April 2006 (updated 17/8/2006)

The early 20th century show featured a couple of white pure-blood horses that nose-dove from a high platform into the water at the Hanlan ferry terminal. The famed show was brought by J.W. Gorman (from Boston) to the amusement park of the Hanlan family estate on the Centre Island (Toronto, Ontario). The partners of the show, John Whalen and George Holloway, also owned the horses - one called King and the other Queen. See the other picture in the Gallery.

The show had likely travelled to New York and other places in New England. The pictures are dated between 1905 and 1908.

Riders were also introduced to other inspiring high-diving acts. In February, 1907, a dentist-turned-performer called Doc Carver, organized a diving-horse show at Electric Park, San Antonio, Texas. In 1924, Sonora Webster (later married to Dr. Carver) became the firstwoman to fall 40 feet on horseback into a tank of water at Steel Pier in Atlantic City. Sonora and her sister Arnette continued to ride in the show from the hard times of the Depression into the Second World War. The show and Sonora inspired the 1991 Disney movie, "Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken."

The high-diving act attraction was discontinued in 1978 after animal-rights activists complained. In Sonora's autobiography, "A Girl and Five Brave Horses," she insisted the animals loved the dives and were not forced to jump.

At present, the amusement park Magic Forest still offers diving horse shows in the summer at Lake George, New York, although the horse is riderless. The 13-year-old gelding freely walks to the diving platform and dives on his own 9 feet into a 14-feet-deep pool.


Postcard: Gorman's Diving Horses

Notes:
Horses are exploited, but some horses might be willing to participate in stunt acts, shows, racing, or even military services.
The 40-to-60 ft stunts were breathtaking and accidents did happen.
Incidentally, an unrelated young girl, Magaret Gorman 1906-1995), won the first Miss America pageant in 1921.
In the Walt Disney's movie, Doc Carver died and Sonora married his son. The high dive was exhilarating. In generall,
the movie was beautifully filmed and quality produced for both children and adults.

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:17 PM
Too cool!
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/2853573395_48374c319c.jpg?t=1255734969

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:20 PM
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/02cadff890765720_landing.jpg?t=1255735187

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:24 PM
http://www.steel-pier.com/dedicated_to_the_diving_horses.htm
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/Diving_Horse_2_small.jpg?t=1255735458

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq0_KKH2yfE

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E6ljDp0dh4

patriot45
10-16-2009, 10:06 PM
So you are ok with this! I am, I just wish I could've seen it live.

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 10:16 PM
So you are ok with this! I am, I just wish I could've seen it live.

If your talking to me hell yeah I'm okay with it. It would appear there were less injuries than horse racing. It is remarkable to me that you would get a horse to do that. Not all of them would, I've done a lot of reading about it tonight. In this sterile pussy world we are now entering you will see nothing close to this anymore!

patriot45
10-16-2009, 10:35 PM
If your talking to me hell yeah I'm okay with it. It would appear there were less injuries than horse racing. It is remarkable to me that you would get a horse to do that. Not all of them would, I've done a lot of reading about it tonight. In this sterile pussy world we are now entering you will see nothing close to this anymore!

According to the article the horses actually liked it!! So F- peta! And you are right we will never see this again unless the horses revolt! :D

Gingersnap
10-16-2009, 11:28 PM
Horses aren't exactly mental giants. I can see how it would be possible to train a horse to do this. You'll notice the lack of 'Diving Mules' in this piece of history. Mules are about 18 times smarter than the smartest horse and I say this as a horse owner.

While I don't have a problem with this being done in the past, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to resurrect today. The riders were badly damaged and the horses couldn't have faired much better over time at those heights. Horses have a more fragile rib cage than you might imagine.

Teaching a horse to follow hand signals when "solving" arithmetic problems seems more amusing to me. That and making them wear party hats. :D

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 11:30 PM
Horses aren't exactly mental giants. I can see how it would be possible to train a horse to do this. You'll notice the lack of 'Diving Mules' in this piece of history. Mules are about 18 times smarter than the smartest horse and I say this as a horse owner.

While I don't have a problem with this being done in the past, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to resurrect today. The riders were badly damaged and the horses couldn't have faired much better over time at those heights. Horses have a more fragile rib cage than you might imagine.

Teaching a horse to follow hand signals when "solving" arithmetic problems seems more amusing to me. That and making them wear party hats. :D

I don't know. I had a donkey that tried to mate with motorcycles!

Gingersnap
10-16-2009, 11:45 PM
I don't know. I had a donkey that tried to mate with motorcycles!

Who hasn't, really? But would he jump off a platform 40 feet above a wading pool? Doubtful.

Rockntractor
10-16-2009, 11:48 PM
Who hasn't, really? But would he jump off a platform 40 feet above a wading pool? Doubtful.

He wouldn't walk across a bridge. You had to ride him around the bridges and through the mud and water and sometimes he would jump over the creeks and then stop dead. You didn't.

patriot45
10-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Horses aren't exactly mental giants. I can see how it would be possible to train a horse to do this. You'll notice the lack of 'Diving Mules' in this piece of history. Mules are about 18 times smarter than the smartest horse and I say this as a horse owner.

While I don't have a problem with this being done in the past, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to resurrect today. The riders were badly damaged and the horses couldn't have faired much better over time at those heights. Horses have a more fragile rib cage than you might imagine.

Teaching a horse to follow hand signals when "solving" arithmetic problems seems more amusing to me. That and making them wear party hats. :D

C'mon, this was in the 20s.! And The horses said they liked it!

Rockntractor
10-17-2009, 12:42 AM
C'mon, this was in the 20s.! And The horses said they liked it!

They went right to the source and asked the horse!

patriot45
10-17-2009, 12:43 AM
They went right to the source and asked the horse!

Yes Exactly! :D

Rockntractor
10-17-2009, 12:50 AM
Yes Exactly! :D

You were supposed to say of course.

NJCardFan
10-17-2009, 01:58 AM
No video of Thornton Mellon doing the Triple Lindy? He did, after all, open for the Diving Horse. My parents used to be on the Ed Hurst Show on the Steel Pier(sort of an American Bandstand type dance show).

Jumpy
10-17-2009, 02:58 PM
I spent some weekends at AC, as a kid (1960-70s) when Atlantic City was still family friendly and safe, and I remember seeing pics of these stunts on the boardwalk.

If something like this happened today, I would be in line to protest. I find it disgusting.