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megimoo
10-18-2009, 06:32 AM
Aided and abetted by imposters posing as authentic American citizens the United States of America has been taken over by an authentic dictator. How could so many millions of U. S. citizens just gently cede their heritage and birthright so easily; without more than a whimper?

Assisted by genuine anti-American leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, actually elected by unknowing and uninformed lemmings, Barack Hussein Obama has surely seized the ultimate power of dictatorship and is making decisions not within the established authority of the office of President, which are opposed only by vocal chants from a gaggle of conservatives that are powerless to intercede.

His campaign trail and even post election posturing as a savior of our country has all been a grandiose off-key trumpeting of his greatness. Years ago, H. L. Mencken, a famed American journalist and world watcher was quoted as saying about people like Obama, “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.”

This usurping foreigner of Islamic roots with a mixture of rebel-white blood from the distaff side of his parentage has ridden a wave of unintelligent popularity bordering on baseless divine worship mostly from those who are easily led.

Even the Judicial Branch and the Supreme Justices of our government seem to be under the spell of his mystique by avoiding to rule by our own national Constitution requirements for presidential eligibility.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15900

Goldwater
10-18-2009, 07:00 AM
Sometimes not posting is better than posting.

megimoo
10-18-2009, 07:19 AM
Sometimes not posting is better than posting.Sometimes not posting the truth is a sign of cowardice .

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."Thomas Jefferson

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson

PoliCon
10-18-2009, 07:55 AM
Sometimes not posting is better than posting.

Did you honestly think he would listen?

NJCardFan
10-18-2009, 11:25 AM
You cannot classify someone bound by term limits a dictator.

megimoo
10-18-2009, 12:12 PM
You cannot classify someone bound by term limits a dictator.What makes you think that he feels bound ,haven't you been paying Attention ?

hampshirebrit
10-18-2009, 12:14 PM
You cannot classify someone bound by term limits a dictator.

Technically you could, since the Roman title of Dictator (there was such a formal position) was term limited in advance of it being awarded by the Roman Senate.

However, in the modern sense, you are right. Obama would have to overturn several key parts of the USC to qualify as a dictator, and while I do not like him, he is nowhere near doing that.

It could, at a great stretch I suppose, happen, but it is hardly likely. Instead, I see this as early onset ODS writ large, and strikingly similar to claims made on DU that Bush would cancel the 2008 presidential election, and I agree with the other posters, that it does not merit being posted as a serious item here on CU and in fact, were it to go unchallenged, would make us look as unhinged as DU.

I am glad to see it being challenged here.

Your mileage may vary. Mine does not.

Goldwater
10-18-2009, 01:12 PM
Sometimes not posting the truth is a sign of cowardice .

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."Thomas Jefferson

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson


Wow, you quoted Jefferson, guess I lose.

Seriously some threads you make are great, then theres ones like these...

megimoo
10-18-2009, 03:54 PM
Wow, you quoted Jefferson, guess I lose.

Seriously some threads you make are great, then theres ones like these...
Perhaps so, perhaps not ?To post a piece or not is always of serious consideration with me.

Why do you mock that great man ?My intent was to illustrate the parallels between his times and ours.

Would you agree that what he has done so far in his presidency makes little sense without some greater cause so far undiscovered ?Has he shown any regard for the Constitution or Patriotism ?Do you think that he actually plans to be re elected with these poll numbers and the near riots we've had at most of the tea party's ?

His party's stimulus plan now looks more like a very large liberal pork barrel and a complete and very expensive failure to stimulate anything except the union retirement funds and ACORN !

He has meddled in the economic and industrial sector with devastating consequences.His chief economic advisers have proven to be fools and tax dodging amateurs .

Further, will this Congress survive the next election without serious loss of Liberal membership? Looking for an explanation to the General acts of political 'suicidal' most of those Liberals in Congress are exercising leads me to believe something else is afoot !

I almost feel 'sorry' for the poor clod being beaten by both the left and the right in San Francisco at the same time.

His lack of cohesiveness on both the National and International Stage are all signs of trouble brewing for any international monetary agreements or any re election attempt to succeed.Most of those independents who voted for an inexperienced 'black man' due to guilt or 'hope' have been 'brutalized' by economic reality.

His far left followers are pushing for him to defund the War efforts and are leading to the collapse of our troops support .He is hated all over America by both the right as a traitor and by the left as an weakling Maoist revolutionary .

What are his chances for succeeding in making America over into the Radical Maoist Liberal dream of what America should be ?

Goldwater
10-18-2009, 06:09 PM
Why do you mock that great man ?My intent was to illustrate the parallels between his times and ours.

Why would you think I was mocking Jefferson? Every group in America uses his quotes to push their agenda, from Code Pink to Gun Owners of America and then everyone in between. I just think the idea that Obama is actually a "dictator" is quite laughable. Dictators kill the opposition, close down the markets and rule without fair elections, Obama has done none of this and is a president that has so far been like most others: dissapointing.

lacarnut
10-18-2009, 09:10 PM
Sometimes not posting is better than posting.

If you do not like his post, don't read them. Who are you to decide what appropriate or not.

Obama talks like a dictator to me. He has stated what will be or not be in the health care bill in complete disregard for the actual legislation. He is hell bent on socializing every facet of American life. In other words, his actions parallel a dictator to this writer.

Rockntractor
10-18-2009, 11:21 PM
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/hope-obama-politics-hope-liberals-d.jpg?t=1255922435

linda22003
10-19-2009, 07:39 AM
What makes you think that he feels bound ,haven't you been paying Attention ?

I remember when this was "Bush is going to cancel the election!" on DU. I see it's moved over here. :rolleyes:

Constitutionally Speaking
10-19-2009, 08:52 AM
Quite frankly Obama IS moving us in that direction. We are not there yet, but he certainly have moved WAYYYY beyond the Constitutional limits he swore to uphold.

MUCH farther than ANY President has.

Goldwater
10-19-2009, 09:08 AM
Quite frankly Obama IS moving us in that direction. We are not there yet, but he certainly have moved WAYYYY beyond the Constitutional limits he swore to uphold.

MUCH farther than ANY President has.

How? He hasn't had anything passed yet, he has failed in all areas.

Not saying there isn't time for him to move in the direction of socialism in a concrete way like Clinton or Bush did with their forays into education and healthcare, but so far theres nothing I see that seperates him as particularly socialist from previous presidents.

ExLiberal
10-19-2009, 11:41 AM
How? He hasn't had anything passed yet, he has failed in all areas.

Not saying there isn't time for him to move in the direction of socialism in a concrete way like Clinton or Bush did with their forays into education and healthcare, but so far theres nothing I see that seperates him as particularly socialist from previous presidents.

It's his appointees that scare me. Has any president ever had such a radical administration? And I'm not just talking fiscally.

GrumpyOldLady
10-19-2009, 11:47 AM
Obama would have to overturn several key parts of the USC to qualify as a dictator, and while I do not like him, he is nowhere near doing that. .

...yet. He is nowhere near doing that YET.

He has no problem with acting in an unconstitutional manner.
It's only been 9 months. Give the llil' bugger time.

noonwitch
10-19-2009, 11:50 AM
If Obama was already a dictator:

1. Guns and ammo would be impossible to get hold of, not because the stores' inventories have been depleted by paranoid gun owners, but because guns and ammo are now illegal. (I'm still kicking myself for not seeing that trend coming and buying stock accordingly)
2. FOX news would have been taken over, not just avoided, by the administration. Glenn Beck would be the first to be taken to "the camps". Free speech seems to be thriving there, instead-even unchecked, crazy, free speech.
3. The people who brought guns to their congressional representatives' speeches would have been arrested on the spot and dragged to prison. But only to the democratic's speeches. A dictator would stand by and let people shoot at the opposition.


Lots of presidents go into office with big dreams, that sound scary to those who voted against them. Most of them get very few of their ideas made into law and policy.

Goldwater
10-19-2009, 12:02 PM
...yet. He is nowhere near doing that YET.

He has no problem with acting in an unconstitutional manner.
It's only been 9 months. Give the llil' bugger time.

By that description every president since Theodore Roosevelt has been a dictator.

GrumpyOldLady
10-19-2009, 12:04 PM
By that description every president since Theodore Roosevelt has been a dictator.
Yes. that is somewhat true. But Barry is taking it to new dangerous heights. And it's only been 9 months.

linda22003
10-19-2009, 12:05 PM
The pendulum swings, and it always swings back. The 2010 elections could well halt whatever "progress" he has been able to make, and he knows it. That's why he's in such a hurry now.

Goldwater
10-19-2009, 12:16 PM
Yes. that is somewhat true. But Barry is taking it to new dangerous heights. And it's only been 9 months.

They all defied the constitution, but the word "dictator" does not fit. Hitler, Mao, Mussolini - these are dictators, the Jimmy Carters, George Bushs and Barack Obamas seem out of place. How has Obama done anything more unconstitutional than Bush?

linda22003
10-19-2009, 12:28 PM
How has Obama done anything more unconstitutional than Bush?

By doing things we don't like as much. ;)

lacarnut
10-19-2009, 02:21 PM
They all defied the constitution, but the word "dictator" does not fit. Hitler, Mao, Mussolini - these are dictators, the Jimmy Carters, George Bushs and Barack Obamas seem out of place. How has Obama done anything more unconstitutional than Bush?

Give him time. Fools like you will be enlightened when it is too late.

GrumpyOldLady
10-19-2009, 02:34 PM
How has Obama done anything more unconstitutional than Bush?
From Mr. Hope and Change ...
http://www.htrnews.com/article/20091015/MAN06/910150599

Start here ...

lacarnut
10-19-2009, 03:05 PM
Obama and the IRS are going to use strong arm tactics to collect more tax revenues at home and abroad. In fact, Democratic members of Congress have stated that if you have assets overseas, you must be a tax cheat. Even if you have paid your taxes, this Administration is hell bent on keeping your money in this country. The IRS has set up several offices in Beijing, Panama, etc. The UBS bank forked over 5 thousand names of suspected tax cheats. However, the IRS wants to go on a fishing expedition for the other 45 thousand. This has sent a chilling effect on banks throughout the world and many banks will not open new American accounts. They do not want the hassle.

The United States is the only country in the world that has an exit tax. Anything over 600k requires that you pay an exit tax even though you have paid taxes. This administration is hell bent on keeping your money here and renouncing your citizenship is a long drawn out process. So, even if you move to a foreign country, you still have to pay taxes on income earned in the US. After all, the dictator-in-chief cares about how much it can take from you. You know, that hope and change is expensive.

AmPat
10-19-2009, 03:22 PM
By doing things we don't like as much. ;)

Patially true without the tongue-in-cheek attitude. OBlah Blah and minions are doing things the MAJORITY of the population does not want nor asked for. He uses events to further his agenda of increasing government and DIMocRAT control. He is a thug that is only made worse (and more dangerous) by his naive ideology.

Goldwater
10-19-2009, 03:22 PM
Give him time. Fools like you will be enlightened when it is too late.

Thats the argument for the dictator tag? Sorry, not enough, if it's partisan then admit it's partisan. Besides, I've read enough of your prophecies to know I'm okay. :D

lacarnut
10-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Besides, I've read enough of your prophecies to know I'm okay. :D

You mean like there is little difference between the election/policies of McCain and Obama. I will stick to facts rather than prophecies.

megimoo
10-19-2009, 06:49 PM
You mean like there is little difference between the election/policies of McCain and Obama. I will stick to facts rather than prophecies.
It's become clear,to me at least.that he's just another diehard liberal agitator not worthy of honest debate.
There's not much point in any palaver with a critter like that !

A dictator is as a dictator does and his tirade over Fox news coverage Just proves my point.
He,Obama,with his staff,is the only president in American history to assign a key staffer,his Communications Director, to aggressively attack a major news organization and advocate it's demise .

Constitutionally Speaking
10-19-2009, 06:55 PM
How? He hasn't had anything passed yet, he has failed in all areas.

Not saying there isn't time for him to move in the direction of socialism in a concrete way like Clinton or Bush did with their forays into education and healthcare, but so far theres nothing I see that seperates him as particularly socialist from previous presidents.

Ownership of GM, Chrysler etc. Those HAVE passed. The Czars - others have done this also - it does not make it right, and Obama has taken them to whole new levels.

He is appointing VERY dangerous people to very powerful positions - not unconstitutional, but perhaps the greatest threat.

lacarnut
10-19-2009, 06:55 PM
It's become clear,to me at least.that he's just another diehard liberal agitator not worthy of honest debate.
There's not much point in any palaver with a critter like that !

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Yep, Shep and Anderson Cooper are his boys.

Constitutionally Speaking
10-19-2009, 06:57 PM
They all defied the constitution, but the word "dictator" does not fit. Hitler, Mao, Mussolini - these are dictators, the Jimmy Carters, George Bushs and Barack Obamas seem out of place. How has Obama done anything more unconstitutional than Bush?


If you look, he is duplicating the path that dictators take when they first get power in a democracy. Does that mean it is his intent??? I don't know, but it sure seems that way.

Especially since the people he has surrounded himself with hold people like Castro, Chavez, and Mao as their heroes.

He is consolidating power in the federal government. His takeover of the two auto companies, his attacks on anyone who dares criticize him, his using government funds to pay for pro-Obama art via the NEA. You add what he HAS done to what he is still TRYING to do, and the picture is far worse than just ugly.

For example, in the HEALTH CARE discussions are now methods that they will use to make firearms prohibitively expensive - after all, guns are the cause of many injuries therefore they are justifying a tax on ownership - a very expensive one. It is just one way they are trying to circumvent the Constitution.

AlmostThere
10-19-2009, 11:52 PM
You cannot classify someone bound by term limits a dictator.

Does Chavez mean anything to you? Give us some kind of national crisis and I can see some arguing for the suspension of term limits for the "sake" of the country.

PoliCon
10-19-2009, 11:54 PM
Does Chavez mean anything to you? Give us some kind of national crisis and I can see some arguing for the suspension of term limits for the "sake" of the country.

Oh fun - we're picking up the BDS mantra's now?

Rockntractor
10-20-2009, 12:05 AM
Yeah poli everything will be all right Obama is just your run of the mill democrat. Nothing to worry about!

AmPat
10-20-2009, 12:23 AM
OBlah Blah is much more than a standard DummycRAT. He is more dangerous because he is an ideologue who actually believes his flawed world view and he cares more about his power and DIMocRAT power than the future of this country. Oh, did I mention that he is the biggest narcissist I've ever seen?

PoliCon
10-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Yeah poli everything will be all right Obama is just your run of the mill democrat. Nothing to worry about!

He's your run of the mill socialist - but that does not mean we should start parroting the DU and translating BDS mantras into ODS mantras.

Rockntractor
10-20-2009, 12:35 AM
I think every one of us including myself has underestimated him and we will come to regret it some day!

AlmostThere
10-20-2009, 05:45 AM
Oh fun - we're picking up the BDS mantra's now?

Hey, you are the one who stated "You cannot classify someone bound by term limits a dictator." That was the case with Chavez until he decided that he did not have to abide by the limits. Now he is a dictator who was originally bound by term limits. Ain't no BDS to it, it's just a fact.

GrumpyOldLady
10-20-2009, 08:44 AM
Yep, Shep and Anderson Cooper are his boys.

Shepard Smith lost me when Katrina hit.
He went around spewing that all he saw were black faces in need and being ignored.
He didn't just imply racism ... he outright said it.
Of course he didn't mention that New Orleans has a high black population.
Of course he didn't mention that those people DECIDED TO STAY.
Of course he didn't mention that, statistically speaking, you were more likely to die in Katrinia if you were white, then black. That's right. A higher percentage of white people died in Katrina then the population statistics should have supported.

And some of the things he's been coming out with lately ... :rolleyes:

PoliCon
10-20-2009, 08:57 AM
Hey, you are the one who stated "You cannot classify someone bound by term limits a dictator." That was the case with Chavez until he decided that he did not have to abide by the limits. Now he is a dictator who was originally bound by term limits. Ain't no BDS to it, it's just a fact.

um - no that wasn't me who said it. :p

AlmostThere
10-20-2009, 03:57 PM
um - no that wasn't me who said it. :p
My bad. It was early. Actually it was late, I hadn't been to bed yet. :o

lacarnut
10-20-2009, 04:21 PM
If you look, he is duplicating the path that dictators take when they first get power in a democracy. Does that mean it is his intent??? I don't know, but it sure seems that way.

Especially since the people he has surrounded himself with hold people like Castro, Chavez, and Mao as their heroes.

He is consolidating power in the federal government. His takeover of the two auto companies, his attacks on anyone who dares criticize him, his using government funds to pay for pro-Obama art via the NEA. You add what he HAS done to what he is still TRYING to do, and the picture is far worse than just ugly.

For example, in the HEALTH CARE discussions are now methods that they will use to make firearms prohibitively expensive - after all, guns are the cause of many injuries therefore they are justifying a tax on ownership - a very expensive one. It is just one way they are trying to circumvent the Constitution.

Right. Goldwater has either a comprehension problem or a stupid problem.:eek:

Bubba Dawg
10-20-2009, 05:29 PM
Obama is not a dictator. His majority in Congress will face an election in 2010 and he and his party will face re-election in 2012.

Until then he will govern as the chief executive and work with his party in congress and the departments in the executive branch to achieve his goals.

He will certainly do everything that he is able to do through legislation, executive orders, and the administration and policy direction of the departments of the executive branch.

I will vote for the opposition in the upcoming elections who have the best chance of limiting his power. Those would be Republicans in most (if not all) cases.

Many conservatives, and even moderates, are angry at the present circumstance and are concerned with the direction of the country.

My belief is to be angry, but let that anger be a motivation to work for principled action and not extremism.

PoliCon
10-20-2009, 10:57 PM
My bad. It was early. Actually it was late, I hadn't been to bed yet. :o

we all make mistakes and it's a big man who can admit that - which is why women never admit it!;)

PoliCon
10-20-2009, 10:57 PM
My belief is to be angry, but let that anger be a motivation to work for principled action and not extremism. AMEN. I refuse to partake of ODS.

AmPat
10-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Obama is not a dictator. His majority in Congress will face an election in 2010 and he and his party will face re-election in 2012.

Until then he will govern as the chief executive and work with his party in congress and the departments in the executive branch to achieve his goals.

He will certainly do everything that he is able to do through legislation, executive orders, and the administration and policy direction of the departments of the executive branch.

I will vote for the opposition in the upcoming elections who have the best chance of limiting his power. Those would be Republicans in most (if not all) cases.

Many conservatives, and even moderates, are angry at the present circumstance and are concerned with the direction of the country.

My belief is to be angry, but let that anger be a motivation to work for principled action and not extremism.
OBlah Blah is also appointing his virus/diseased-ridden ideologues in every office imaginable. The effects of this anti-american POTUS will last generations.