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megimoo
07-22-2008, 05:42 PM
Maoists in America


The William Ayers plan to turn America's schoolchildren into Maoists and how Barack Obama helped him .

West Coast "Authoritarian" Leftist:A Communists working toward the day when the last capitalist will be strangled to death with the guts of the last lily-livered socialist.

Characterizing the Weatherman as "an American Red Army," Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents." (1)

"[In 2006] He continued to rail against his exclusion from the conference in an interview with the house organ of the Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party, an interview printed right alongside some of the memorable sayings of the party’s Chairman for Life, Bob Avakian. Ayers complained to the RCP interviewer that the conference organizers were “taking the teeth out of the [progressive education] critique” and trying instead to “present progressive education as something nice and familiar.”

In April 2008 Sol Stern, one of those tiresome ex-Leftists who do penance by ratting out former fellow travelers, dropped a bombshell on New York City's intellectual establishment:

[William] Ayers’s politics have hardly changed since his Weatherman days. He still boasts about working full-time to bring down American capitalism and imperialism.

This time, however, he does it from his tenured perch as Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

Instead of planting bombs in public buildings, Ayers now works to indoctrinate America’s future teachers in the revolutionary cause, urging them to pass on the lessons to their public school students.

It gets even more interesting but here I pause to recount the intellectual establishment's immediate reaction, which to quote Mark Steyn in a somewhat different context was sprayed coffee, steaming pants and scalded crotches.

Yes, all over Manhattan's Upper West Side cheerful Starbucks assistants ran around mopping latte sprays from laptop screens and handing out wads of paper napkins to customers howling in pain.

It's not as if the intelligentsia didn't already know that William Ayers was bent on
transforming American schoolchildren into Manchurian Candidates.

That was old news because in 2006 Sol Stern had publicized Ayers's education work. The stunner was that Stern was not going to keep his mouth shut about Ayers during Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign.

Now we'll return to Sol hurling thunderbolts:
Indeed, the education department at the University of Illinois is a hotbed for the radical education professoriate. As Ayers puts it in one of his course descriptions, prospective K–12 teachers need to “be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and . . . be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, a teacher teaching for social justice and liberation.”

Here I pause to clarify a smoggy term. Just what is "social justice?"
For the tourists, social justice means finding ways to make society more just for all. For William Ayers and other American pedagogical versions of the Weather Underground, social justice 'education' means using every subject taught in public school, including math and science, as a means to teach children that capitalism is evil and that anyone who supports the American way of life is going straight to hell.

Yet as Steve Diamond points out, Ayers and his fellow "authoritarian" Leftists in the teaching profession hide behind the generally understood concept of social justice. "... a meaningless [term] because the minute you challenge advocates of this approach they sound like Mom and Apple Pie liberals."(5)

What exactly is an "authoritarian" Leftist? I plan to write Professor Diamond to ask him that very question.

But as near as I can figure, it seems to be his polite term for communists working toward the day when the last capitalist will be strangled to death with the guts of the last lily-livered socialist.

http://pundita.blogspot.com/2008/05/william-ayers-plan-to-turn-americas_20.html

Zeus
07-22-2008, 08:03 PM
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Elspeth
07-22-2008, 08:29 PM
Megimoo,

This kind of indoctrination exists throughout schools of Education. In order to teach anywhere (K-12) you have to get credentialed, which means taking these kinds of courses. As my friend who is getting her credential now puts it, the classes are all about "hating whitey" and "hating capitalism." She's old enough to ignore most of it; she studies for the tests and then ignores it, but most of the education students drink this crap in without a second thought.

This is why home schooling is so important and why there are so many challenges to it. Just recently, there was a decision in CA that said parents did not have the right to home school. This means that the state may put restrictions on who can home school their children, and having these brainwashing education courses may end up being part of the deal.

megimoo
07-22-2008, 08:43 PM
Megimoo,

This kind of indoctrination exists throughout schools of Education. In order to teach anywhere (K-12) you have to get credentialed, which means taking these kinds of courses. As my friend who is getting her credential now puts it, the classes are all about "hating whitey" and "hating capitalism." She's old enough to ignore most of it; she studies for the tests and then ignores it, but most of the education students drink this crap in without a second thought.

This is why home schooling is so important and why there are so many challenges to it. Just recently, there was a decision in CA that said parents did not have the right to home school. This means that the state may put restrictions on who can home school their children, and having these brainwashing education courses may end up being part of the deal.

That's exactly the reason for the post.Those teaching the teachers are treasonous critters bent on corrupting America's children from within.

The teachers unions have been up for sale for a long time to the highest bidders.The NEA is an organ of the American left ever since Carter founded it .

The Homosexual lobby has endowed the NEA and teachers unions to indoctrinate children in schools as part of their acceptance push.We ,America is under attack from these people on all sides and the only choice is home schooling while Government attempts to stop home schooling especially in extreme liberal states like California and Massachusetts !

Lanie
07-22-2008, 09:27 PM
Okay, who actually is believing this stuff, and why?

Constitutionally Speaking
07-23-2008, 12:31 AM
Okay, who actually is believing this stuff, and why?


Do some research on it Lanie. It is just as they are saying.


It was a stated goal of the soviet union - they infiltrated the media entertainment and education establishments and there is a TON of evidence that they are succeeding. William Ayers, is just one example. Look at the anti- business message in most of the movies out there. look at the anti-religion message in them.

I can go down a list of movies and I can point out some anti-religious or anti-capitalist message in nearly every one.

The bad guy is always either a businessman, a religious person or a Republican - take for example

The father of American Education, John Dewey was also a communist member and one of the writers of the Humanist Manifesto - which has been taught in our school systems for a long time now. This is the reason religion is not allowed in the schools. It is the reason for the "separation of Church and State" bullshit that has infected our country.

The list is endless.

THere is a concerted effort to undermine our country through our education, media and entertainment.

I can spell out the specifics if you wish.

xavierob82
07-23-2008, 09:49 AM
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Yes, all over Manhattan's Upper West Side cheerful Starbucks assistants ran around mopping latte sprays from laptop screens and handing out wads of paper napkins to customers howling in pain.





Wait, I thought liberals were socialist and anti-capitalist? Then why do they all live in Manhattan (the most capitalist area in the world) and frequent Starbucks? Why is Wall Street funding Barck Obama's campaign? Why do all the people I know who work in private industry liberals? :D

lacarnut
07-23-2008, 11:03 AM
Wait, I thought liberals were socialist and anti-capitalist? Then why do they all live in Manhattan (the most capitalist area in the world) and frequent Starbucks? Why is Wall Street funding Barck Obama's campaign? Why do all the people I know who work in private industry liberals? :D

It was a joke, dumb ass. Plus, you do not know all the people on Wall Street. There have been numerous articles about Obama's plan to increase the Capital Gain Taxes which would sink the Dow a 1,000 points overnight if enacted. Many on Wall Street are scared shitless about Obama's plan to raise taxes, and his Robin Hood approach to fund the many new or expanded social programs.

megimoo
07-23-2008, 12:08 PM
Wait, I thought liberals were socialist and anti-capitalist? Then why do they all live in Manhattan (the most capitalist area in the world) and frequent Starbucks? Why is Wall Street funding Barck Obama's campaign? Why do all the people I know who work in private industry liberals? :D

You tell me ?The Friends of the Earth,Earth Liberation Front (ELF) ,Sierra Club,Peta ,etc,etc are all funded by big Capitalistic trusts like the Ford Foundation,Carnegie Foundation,Rockefeller Foundation and on and on it goes !

Friends of the Earth :85.5 percent of our income is subsidies received from government agencies and foundations.

Peta giving to ELF activists:
Among the payments PETA has admitted giving to radical ELF activists:
$5,000 to Josh Harper, convicted of assaulting police and firing on a fishing vessel;
$2,000 to Dave Wilson, convicted of firebombing a fur cooperative;
$7,500 to Fran Trutt, convicted of attempted murder of a medical executive;
$20,000 to Rodney Coronado, convicted of burning a research laboratory in Michigan.

Politics is job #1; by providing major funding to radical groups, the Ford Foundation is attacking American democracy.

Billionaire George Soros funds Code Pink through his Open Society Institute !

Group That Funds Terrorism Gives Obama Money ,Judicial Watch Blog
The head of a radical group that funds and supports Islamic terrorists as well as an America-bashing South American socialist leader has bundled more than $50,000 for Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.

Jodie Evans, co-founder of the anti-war group Code Pink, is a huge Obama supporter who has personally given his campaign the federal limit ($2,300) and continues to collect big bucks—$50,000 and counting—from friends and associates in an effort to help the Illinois senator, a favorite among Latin American socialist leaders, move into the White House.

Code Pink bills itself as a grassroots, women’s peace and social justice movement working to end the war in Iraq. Members say they reject the Bush Administration’s fear-based politics that justify violence, instead calling for policies based on compassion and kindness.

That evidently includes compassion and kindness towards Islamic terrorists who murder Americans. The group actually gave $600,000 to help Iraqi terrorist in Fallujah fight U.S. military forces and its “counter-recruitment” campaign has harassed, vandalized and impeded U.S. military recruiters across the nation.

Code Pink leaders also support and hang out with Latin American dictators such as Cuba’s Fidel Castro and Venezuela’s America-bashing socialist leader, Hugo Chavez. Obama is already highly popular among that group and has received official endorsements from the ailing Castro and another renowned communist, Nicaragua’s Daniel Ortega, who assures Obama is the spokesman for millions of Central American and Mexican citizens who migrate to the U.S.

Media Maters:
"The left-wing group Media Matters denies that Soros gives them any funding !

So what are they afraid of? Maybe it's the money man behind MoveOn. Billionaire George Soros considers himself a philanthropist, and his Open Society Institute gives money to causes around the world. But some of his vast fortune is also used to finance radical groups like MoveOn.org and others.

Lanie
07-23-2008, 06:45 PM
Do some research on it Lanie. It is just as they are saying.


It was a stated goal of the soviet union - they infiltrated the media entertainment and education establishments and there is a TON of evidence that they are succeeding. William Ayers, is just one example. Look at the anti- business message in most of the movies out there. look at the anti-religion message in them.

I can go down a list of movies and I can point out some anti-religious or anti-capitalist message in nearly every one.

The bad guy is always either a businessman, a religious person or a Republican - take for example

The father of American Education, John Dewey was also a communist member and one of the writers of the Humanist Manifesto - which has been taught in our school systems for a long time now. This is the reason religion is not allowed in the schools. It is the reason for the "separation of Church and State" bullshit that has infected our country.

The list is endless.

THere is a concerted effort to undermine our country through our education, media and entertainment.

I can spell out the specifics if you wish.

And yet if you try to promote Humanism or an economical system other than capitalism in schools, you'll be insulted for it.

If you want to buy this stuff, go ahead.

xavierob82
07-23-2008, 07:17 PM
It was a joke, dumb ass. Plus, you do not know all the people on Wall Street. There have been numerous articles about Obama's plan to increase the Capital Gain Taxes which would sink the Dow a 1,000 points overnight if enacted. Many on Wall Street are scared shitless about Obama's plan to raise taxes, and his Robin Hood approach to fund the many new or expanded social programs.



Nope. Wall Street has donated nearly twice as much $$$ to Obama than McCain this election cycle, raking in cash from employees of JPMorgan, Citigroup, UBS AG, etc...

Yeah, Obama is a real anti-capitalist socialist in the tradition of Mao Zedong alright. :rolleyes:


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/06/30/2008-06-30_barack_obama_has_collected_nearly_twice_-2.html

megimoo
07-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Nope. Wall Street has donated nearly twice as much $$$ to Obama than McCain this election cycle, raking in cash from employees of JPMorgan, Citigroup, UBS AG, etc...

Yeah, Obama is a real anti-capitalist socialist in the tradition of Mao Zedong alright. :rolleyes:


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/06/30/2008-06-30_barack_obama_has_collected_nearly_twice_-2.html

Just hedging their bets .I am sure that a bright and well rounded critter like you already knows that .Their donation cycles are well known and each year the formula changes slightly.It's all written off and hidden in their accounting procedures.The IRS has an agent assigned to all of the big company's to try and keep track of their actual money flow with a hand held calculator and a spread sheet .A friend of mine was such an agent and he told me it was laughable the way they moved funds around from one branch in Europe and another in Asia .Not a chance of ever getting an accurate picture of what funds were where !

Zeus
07-23-2008, 11:29 PM
The Sweet Illusion Of Socialism (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301616451833130&kw=2nd,quarter,2008)

By TERRY SATER | Posted Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:30 PM PT


The underlying issue of the 2008 election makes this a watershed moment in American history, too important to shrink from full and frank debate or allow emotional appeal to cloak party platform DNA.

In April, when Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., was asked if presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama was a Marxist, he replied:

"I must say, that's a good question . . . I will tell you that during this campaign, I've learned some things about him, about the kind of environment from which he came ideologically. And I wouldn't . . . I'd hesitate to say he's a Marxist, but he's got some positions that are far to the left of me and I think mainstream America."

It was a good question, but there is a broader one: Will America hold to the principles of capitalism and free enterprise or will it embrace elements of socialism, Marxism and communism? Those are our choices.

lacarnut
07-24-2008, 12:20 AM
Nope. Wall Street has donated nearly twice as much $$$ to Obama than McCain this election cycle, raking in cash from employees of JPMorgan, Citigroup, UBS AG, etc...

Yeah, Obama is a real anti-capitalist socialist in the tradition of Mao Zedong alright. :rolleyes:


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/06/30/2008-06-30_barack_obama_has_collected_nearly_twice_-2.html

They would never think of making a contribution to someone that is in favor of bailing them out so that they could keep their jobs and looking out for their best interests. Since Obama is the favorite, that never entered their mind also. If it looks like McCain will win, these fat cats will dump money in McCain's coffers fast and furious. You know what playing both sides of the street means?

Constitutionally Speaking
07-24-2008, 06:04 AM
And yet if you try to promote Humanism or an economical system other than capitalism in schools, you'll be insulted for it.

If you want to buy this stuff, go ahead.

Humanism IS promoted in the school system. It is the De-Facto state sponsored religion.

The Humanist Manifesto (written by the father of American Education John Dewey) IS what is being taught in our schools. Here it is:


FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.

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SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process.

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THIRD: Holding an organic view of life, humanists find that the traditional dualism of mind and body must be rejected.

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FOURTH: Humanism recognizes that man's religious culture and civilization, as clearly depicted by anthropology and history, are the product of a gradual development due to his interaction with his natural environment and with his social heritage. The individual born into a particular culture is largely molded by that culture.

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FIFTH: Humanism asserts that the nature of the universe depicted by modern science makes unacceptable any supernatural or cosmic guarantees of human values. Obviously humanism does not deny the possibility of realities as yet undiscovered, but it does insist that the way to determine the existence and value of any and all realities is by means of intelligent inquiry and by the assessment of their relations to human needs. Religion must formulate its hopes and plans in the light of the scientific spirit and method.

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SIXTH: We are convinced that the time has passed for theism, deism, modernism, and the several varieties of "new thought".

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SEVENTH: Religion consists of those actions, purposes, and experiences which are humanly significant. Nothing human is alien to the religious. It includes labor, art, science, philosophy, love, friendship, recreation — all that is in its degree expressive of intelligently satisfying human living. The distinction between the sacred and the secular can no longer be maintained.

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EIGHTH: Religious Humanism considers the complete realization of human personality to be the end of man's life and seeks its development and fulfillment in the here and now. This is the explanation of the humanist's social passion.

Check Live for the day - if it feels good do it!

NINTH: In the place of the old attitudes involved in worship and prayer the humanist finds his religious emotions expressed in a heightened sense of personal life and in a cooperative effort to promote social well-being.

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TENTH: It follows that there will be no uniquely religious emotions and attitudes of the kind hitherto associated with belief in the supernatural.

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ELEVENTH: Man will learn to face the crises of life in terms of his knowledge of their naturalness and probability. Reasonable and manly attitudes will be fostered by education and supported by custom. We assume that humanism will take the path of social and mental hygiene and discourage sentimental and unreal hopes and wishful thinking.

Check Must prepare the proletariat for their future miserable existence

TWELFTH: Believing that religion must work increasingly for joy in living, religious humanists aim to foster the creative in man and to encourage achievements that add to the satisfactions of life.

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THIRTEENTH: Religious humanism maintains that all associations and institutions exist for the fulfillment of human life. The intelligent evaluation, transformation, control, and direction of such associations and institutions with a view to the enhancement of human life is the purpose and program of humanism. Certainly religious institutions, their ritualistic forms, ecclesiastical methods, and communal activities must be reconstituted as rapidly as experience allows, in order to function effectively in the modern world.

Check Institutional control, not FREEDOM??

FOURTEENTH: The humanists are firmly convinced that existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a radical change in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible. The goal of humanism is a free and universal society in which people voluntarily and intelligently cooperate for the common good. Humanists demand a shared life in a shared world.

Check No, they are not communists!!!!

FIFTEENTH AND LAST: We assert that humanism will: (a) affirm life rather than deny it; (b) seek to elicit the possibilities of life, not flee from them; and (c) endeavor to establish the conditions of a satisfactory life for all, not merely for the few. By this positive morale and intention humanism will be guided, and from this perspective and alignment the techniques and efforts of humanism will flow.

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So stand the theses of religious humanism. Though we consider the religious forms and ideas of our fathers no longer adequate, the quest for the good life is still the central task for mankind. Man is at last becoming aware that he alone is responsible for the realization of the world of his dreams, that he has within himself the power for its achievement. He must set intelligence and will to the task.Check



It should be noted that John Dewey was a Communist also - and a close associate of one of the main founders of the ACLU - Roger Baldwin, who specifically said:


"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."



He also said:


“Do steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise…We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a good lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country, and to show that we are really the folks that really stand for the spirit of our institutions.”


This is not ME talking it is the founders of the ACLU and the education system here in the US.

It is absolutely a planned undermining of our country.

megimoo
07-24-2008, 09:10 AM
Humanism IS promoted in the school system. It is the De-Facto state sponsored religion.

The Humanist Manifesto (written by the father of American Education John Dewey) IS what is being taught in our schools. Here it is:




It should be noted that John Dewey was a Communist also - and a close associate of one of the main founders of the ACLU - who specifically said:




He also said:




This is not ME talking it is the founders of the ACLU and the education system here in the US.

It is absolutely a planned undermining of our country.
That's too much data all at once for poor little Bridget/Lanie to absorb in one sitting !

Teetop
07-24-2008, 10:23 AM
Okay, who actually is believing this stuff, and why?


I believe it and so does Tatiana Menaker. (http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/news/104/Marxist120303.htm)

My Second Marxist Indoctrination · 03 December 2003
By Tatiana Menaker--FrontPageMagazine.com, 12/03/03

After arriving in the United States with a diploma from Leningrad University (a university with such alumni as Vladimir Lenin, Ayn Rand and President Vladimir Putin), I realized that I had the extremely unmarketable skills of a Marxist-Leninist philosophy professor. Moreover, English was not my strong suit. So I became a staff writer for a Russian newspaper in San Francisco and free-lanced for émigré publications in New York and Los Angeles. Eventually, I decided "To bring my English to the level of my Russian" (as the Russian-born American novelist Vladimir Nabokov quipped) and enrolled at San Francisco State University. I majored in creative writing.

I couldn't believe what I found.

Imagine the utter amazement of a refugee from a Communist country, where Marxism was forced on all students, now having to sink in a puddle of socialist propaganda again -- but this time in the middle of an American university!
....

Constitutionally Speaking
07-24-2008, 08:14 PM
The left has been very smart about their indoctrination. They know that they needed to go slow and indocrinate our citizenry step by step - slowly and covertly. As Roger Nash Balwin said: "Do steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise…We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a good lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country". The have done this so gradually and so clandestinely that most people just accept it and see it as no big deal. It has taken them decades, but look at the progress they have made. Hell, they have literally changed the meaning of entire amendments to our Constitution. The 1st, 2nd and 10th amendment - as understood by many people today are in direct opposition to what the founders intended.

We conservatives, on the other hand insist on absolute purity or we sit home on election day (or vote third party) and let the communists win. We haven't figured out that sometimes you have to take a step back or pause before you can move forward.