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dgtxpride
11-18-2009, 05:52 PM
Just tried reading this dense and convoluted post and I find myself lost midway through no matter how hard I try. Is there anyone here that can decipher it and the comments in "laymans" terms?

http://texasgopvote.com/blog/paleoconservative-delusion-and-upgrading-immigration-debate-11172 (http://texasgopvote.com/blog/paleoconservative-delusion-and-upgrading-immigration-debate-11172)

Sonnabend
11-18-2009, 06:00 PM
I have a couple of overriding points to make in closing. First, Europe is about to be overrun by a Muslim population and its values.

Seems pretty clear to me.

AlmostThere
11-18-2009, 06:24 PM
I got 2 points from this.

1) It started during a discussion of Lou Dobbs leaving CNN.
2) The OP needs his meds adjusted.

EricMartin
11-18-2009, 07:39 PM
He makes a good point:


With a great assist from abortion, European-American and African-American birthrates are dwindling while the Muslim birthrate is expanding. Only one other ethnic group has a healthy birthrate: Hispanics. And they are largely of a Catholic heritage and understand the value of what is no longer fresh to many Americans: freedom and equality under the law. Hispanics are probably America’s best hope of reviving the original American ideal, which our current government is abandoning. Conservatives should be organizing English instruction, job fairs, and American history classes. If conservatives can’t sell their values to Hispanics, they might as well give up and roll over and die.

Rockntractor
11-18-2009, 07:54 PM
He makes a good point:

I think most of them have already rolled over and died. I am getting ready to adjust to socialism. Barter system whenever possible. Alternate homemade fuels. Getting ready to fly under the radar!

MrsSmith
11-18-2009, 08:13 PM
Just tried reading this dense and convoluted post and I find myself lost midway through no matter how hard I try. Is there anyone here that can decipher it and the comments in "laymans" terms?

http://texasgopvote.com/blog/paleoconservative-delusion-and-upgrading-immigration-debate-11172 (http://texasgopvote.com/blog/paleoconservative-delusion-and-upgrading-immigration-debate-11172)

Hmmm...the blog post was quite straightforward and understandable, so are you the author, or a troll?

Rockntractor
11-18-2009, 08:16 PM
Hmmm...the blog post was quite straightforward and understandable, so are you the author, or a troll?

He just wanted us to read it. He has done that before but thats okay. He is nice and polite!

dgtxpride
11-19-2009, 12:24 AM
Sorry for not making myself clear. The differences between conservatives such as paleoconservative and neoconservative got me confused especially when the New Deal and neomercantilism was mentioned. The most confusing part for me was a comment to the post as follows

"Paleoconservatism differs from Neoconservatism on much more than just immigration! I think implicitly paleoconservatism is being lampooned as reactionary, sentimental, inconsistent, and out-of-touch, but that's not the case at all.

Far from inconsistent, it's the paleoconservative that sees in the Constitution a consistent form of government, and hankers for a return to life under that to which she or he is entitled: her or his political inheritance. The neoconservative is much more willing to accept the New Deal as a given, and allow that presumption to center the debate of a policy issue.

I disagree with Lou Dobbs and his neomercantilism, and disagree with Pat Buchanan for the same reason. True, neomercantilism is a problem rampant in paleoconservatism to a larger extent than in neoconservatism, but lets not forget Mike Huckabee urging us to start growing all (or an extremely larger portion) of our own food during his presidential campaign.

I would consider Ron Paul a paleoconservative, or at least insofar as he is a conservative. I feel quite certain he would say the problems of immigration are not the ethnicity of the newcomer but the meddling of the federal government. When minimum wages, price fixes, and subsidies don't make jockeying for goods a collective endeavor, and when federal intrusion doesn't make lifestyle and culture a one-size-fits-all predicament, then one's first concern regarding my neighbor is whether or not s/he is honest and respectful. Perhaps friendly and dependable are priorities in a neighbor, too, depending on how much one wishes to be community minded. Whether s/he "took my job" (to borrow the South Park refrain) or will dilute the culture (as if one could be so powerful) are not my concerns, and the market will incentivize allegiance to the principles that made this country great regardless of her/his preferences.

* Posted By Corey A. Hendon (not verified) at 2009-11-17 21:32"

Sonnabend
11-19-2009, 06:35 AM
I would consider Ron Paul a paleoconservative, or at least insofar as he is a conservative.

Oh FFS :mad::mad: