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megimoo
11-23-2009, 09:53 AM
Most Dangerous Cities 2009

No. 1: Camden, N.J.
Rankings in Crime
Assault: 6
Murder: 1
Rape: 8
Motor Vehicle Theft: 8
Robbery: 1
Burglary: 41

(A "murder" rank of "4" would mean it has the 4th worst murder rate. Rankings are out of 393 cities or up to 402 cities, depending on the statistics available in each category. Nine cities that did not have published statistics in all six individual crime categories were not considered in the overall rankings.)
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No. 2: St. Louis, Mo.
Rankings in Crime
Assault: 2
Murder: 4
Rape: 45
Motor Vehicle Theft: 4
Robbery: 4
Burglary: 13

(A "murder" rank of "4" would mean it has the 4th worst murder rate. Rankings are out of 393 cities or up to 402 cities, depending on the statistics available in each category. Nine cities that did not have published statistics in all six individual crime categories were not considered in the overall rankings.)
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No. 3: Oakland, Calif.
Rankings in Crime
Assault: 7
Murder: 12
Rape: 14
Motor Vehicle Theft: 1
Robbery: 3
Burglary: 116

(A "murder" rank of "4" would mean it has the 4th worst murder rate. Rankings are out of 393 cities or up to 402 cities, depending on the statistics available in each category. Nine cities that did not have published statistics in all six individual crime categories were not considered in the overall rankings.)
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No. 4: Detroit, Mich.
Rankings in Crime
Assault: 3
Murder: 8
Rape: 169
Motor Vehicle Theft: 3
Robbery: 8
Burglary: 16

(A "murder" rank of "4" would mean it has the 4th worst murder rate. Rankings are out of 393 cities or up to 402 cities, depending on the statistics available in each category. Nine cities that did not have published statistics in all six individual crime categories were not considered in the overall rankings.)
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No. 5: Flint, Mich.
Rankings in Crime
Assault: 1
Murder: 13
Rape: 9
Motor Vehicle Theft: 60
Robbery: 16
Burglary: 1

(A "murder" rank of "4" would mean it has the 4th worst murder rate. Rankings are out of 393 cities or up to 402 cities, depending on the statistics available in each category. Nine cities that did not have published statistics in all six individual crime categories were not considered in the overall rankings.)
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No. 6: New Orleans, La.
Rankings in Crime
Assault: 72
Murder: 2
Rape: 262
Motor Vehicle Theft: 14
Robbery: 70
Burglary: 40

(A "murder" rank of "4" would mean it has the 4th worst murder rate. Rankings are out of 393 cities or up to 402 cities, depending on the statistics available in each category. Nine cities that did not have published statistics in all six individual crime categories were not considered in the overall rankings.)
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noonwitch
11-23-2009, 11:27 AM
We're only #4? Please, Detroit is badder than Camden, St. Louis and Oakland put together.


Flint is #5. There are parts of Flint that are scarier than anywhere in Detroit, believe it or not. Flint is a small town, too.

Rebel Yell
11-23-2009, 12:11 PM
Just give Lane Kiffin a few more recruiting classes and Knoxille, TN will be #1.;)

noonwitch
11-23-2009, 12:36 PM
Just give Lane Kiffin a few more recruiting classes and Knoxille, TN will be #1.;)



I thought when the Wings signed Todd Bertuzzi, he'd at least raise the number of felony assaults committed in Detroit!

SaintLouieWoman
11-23-2009, 01:39 PM
We're only #4? Please, Detroit is badder than Camden, St. Louis and Oakland put together.


Flint is #5. There are parts of Flint that are scarier than anywhere in Detroit, believe it or not. Flint is a small town, too.

Ha, our Rams are tied for worst record (Detroit's is better), but looks like we consistently keep our high ranking on most dangerous city. :p

Actually the City of STL is small geographically. Most of the people live in the metro area, which generally isn't dangerous. Since it initially was set up as a separate entity, the city was never able to expand. So much of the city is lower economically, translated high concentration of ghettos. That's why they maintain such a dubious "high" ranking in the crime stats. If you take the metro area as an entity, we're just average or lower.

SarasotaRepub
11-23-2009, 02:07 PM
We're only #4? Please, Detroit is badder than Camden, St. Louis and Oakland put together.


Flint is #5. There are parts of Flint that are scarier than anywhere in Detroit, believe it or not. Flint is a small town, too.

You have clearly NEVER been to Camden. :eek::D It's a hell hole, trust me.

noonwitch
11-23-2009, 02:40 PM
Ha, our Rams are tied for worst record (Detroit's is better), but looks like we consistently keep our high ranking on most dangerous city. :p

Actually the City of STL is small geographically. Most of the people live in the metro area, which generally isn't dangerous. Since it initially was set up as a separate entity, the city was never able to expand. So much of the city is lower economically, translated high concentration of ghettos. That's why they maintain such a dubious "high" ranking in the crime stats. If you take the metro area as an entity, we're just average or lower.



That's the same thing as in Detroit, although Detroit is still geographically a large area and it once held 2 million residents. When they do the next census, the population will probably come to around 850,000. The river and the immediacy of the suburbs prevents it from growing, however, there is now lots of vacant land available within the city limits for the brave and ambitious, who don't mind paying more in property taxes than they do for the house note!

AlmostThere
11-23-2009, 04:17 PM
My mom still lives in New Orleans. She's been mugged and had her apartment broken into while she was home. I have pleaded with her, PLEASE MOVE. If you won't move, let me buy you a gun to protect yourself. Won't do either. Maybe love is blind.

SaintLouieWoman
11-23-2009, 10:27 PM
That's the same thing as in Detroit, although Detroit is still geographically a large area and it once held 2 million residents. When they do the next census, the population will probably come to around 850,000. The river and the immediacy of the suburbs prevents it from growing, however, there is now lots of vacant land available within the city limits for the brave and ambitious, who don't mind paying more in property taxes than they do for the house note!

The cities are similar. We're also have the river---the mighty Mississsipi---that prevents growth of the city proper. The burbs surround the city. We're probably about 2 million in the metro area, but I think only about 400k live in the city.

They're knocking down many of the condemned houses and trying to develope north st louis, which is very scary. I won't drive through certain areas. My mom, when she was alive, used to beg me to drive her by her old neighborhood. I had to gently tell her that she'd need a tank, escorted by the military, to go there. I don't know if she believed me, but sadly it was true.

Big Guy
11-23-2009, 10:43 PM
I lived in Flint for 13 years, it was pretty bad in the 70's. Back then the Police NEVER came into our neighborhood unless they had at least three cars. The Flying wheels motorcycle gang tried to take over Stever street in 78, it was like a war zone. We got the hell out.

stsinner
11-23-2009, 11:26 PM
Remember-Diversity is our strength...

Puro Fan
11-24-2009, 08:09 AM
Gary, IN is only #11. My hometown is slipping. Gary used to consistently rank in the top three. There is work to be done. :p

On a serious note, I was back in Gary in Dec. '05. My brother's funeral was in Lowell(about 40 minutes south), so I decided to take my wife on a mini-tour of my old stomping grounds. Her response was, "So this is what a war zone looks like." Abandoned and decaying cars and buildings seemed to be everywhere. What a sad site for a once booming city.

megimoo
11-24-2009, 08:19 AM
The cities are similar. We're also have the river---the mighty Mississsipi---that prevents growth of the city proper. The burbs surround the city. We're probably about 2 million in the metro area, but I think only about 400k live in the city.

They're knocking down many of the condemned houses and trying to develope north st louis, which is very scary. I won't drive through certain areas. My mom, when she was alive, used to beg me to drive her by her old neighborhood. I had to gently tell her that she'd need a tank, escorted by the military, to go there. I don't know if she believed me, but sadly it was true.Tell us about East St Louis ?

noonwitch
11-24-2009, 01:45 PM
Gary, IN is only #11. My hometown is slipping. Gary used to consistently rank in the top three. There is work to be done. :p

On a serious note, I was back in Gary in Dec. '05. My brother's funeral was in Lowell(about 40 minutes south), so I decided to take my wife on a mini-tour of my old stomping grounds. Her response was, "So this is what a war zone looks like." Abandoned and decaying cars and buildings seemed to be everywhere. What a sad site for a once booming city.


I remember driving through Gary in the late 70s, when we'd take family trips from Grand Rapids to Chicago. We'd take the Skyway. It would stink so badly in Gary, I couldn't believe people actually lived there. It was worse than Detroit at that time.

Puro Fan
11-24-2009, 06:21 PM
I remember driving through Gary in the late 70s, when we'd take family trips from Grand Rapids to Chicago. We'd take the Skyway. It would stink so badly in Gary, I couldn't believe people actually lived there. It was worse than Detroit at that time.


The funny thing about the smell . . . growing up there you never notice it. When I returned to the area in '05(after a 17 year absence) I had the same reaction you did.

JB
11-24-2009, 06:25 PM
We're only #4? Please, Detroit is badder than Camden, St. Louis and Oakland put together. It's right there in the data. Your menfolk are not doing enough raping.

Either the women of Detroit are giving it away or the dudes are all gay.

Big Guy
11-24-2009, 11:20 PM
It's right there in the data. Your menfolk are not doing enough raping.

Either the women of Detroit are giving it away or the dudes are all gay.

Well, you know they all went gay in the 90's. :D

noonwitch
11-25-2009, 10:36 AM
It's right there in the data. Your menfolk are not doing enough raping.

Either the women of Detroit are giving it away or the dudes are all gay.


Gays get the crap beat out of them in Detroit. They move to Oakland County (Ferndale, mostly) as soon as they can afford to.


I think the women are giving it away. Women don't always define rape the way I define it, and some have an amazing capacity to view a rape as something else the next morning. I blame General Hospital for the whole "he loved me so much he couldn't control himself" mentality.