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megimoo
11-26-2009, 03:49 AM
John Bolton has referred to President Obama as America's first post-American President.

By this he means that instead of pursuing America's interests in relation to the rest of the world, President Obama is pursuing the rest of the world's interests in relation to America.

In other words, Obama is imposing on America the policies the rest of the world would like to see stuffed down our throats.

This is why it seems like we are losing our country piece by piece, and that America is in an accelerating downward spiral. To those who are paying attention, and not just blindly accepting the Obama/Democrat talking points, everything suddenly seems so different, because America was conquered by an alien ideology in 2008.

Reagan's Peace and Prosperity

The rest of America experienced the Reagan Revolution starting in 1980. The failed Keynesian economics from the 1970s was producing double-digit inflation, double-digit unemployment, and double-digit interest rates. Reagan's strong dollar monetary policies cut inflation in half by 1982, and cut it in half again by 1983, taming it still to this very day. In 1983, the greatest economic boom in world history took off, as a result of Reagan's free market economics.

The Keynesian-induced business cycle that produced four increasingly worse recessions from 1969 to 1982 was replaced by a shocking 25-year economic boom, with only mild, short downturns in 1990 and 2001. As Art Laffer and Steve Moore point out in The End of Prosperity, more wealth was created in America during that 25-year boom than in the entire previous history of America combined, from George Washington up to Ronald Reagan. The boom spread worldwide, boosted by other countries adopting Reaganomics as well. We began to see a blooming middle class as a result in places like India, Brazil, and even China.

Reagan also aggressively fought the Cold War by pursuing his powerful defense buildup, funding and supporting revolutionaries on the outskirts of the Soviet Empire like the mujahedeen in Afghanistan and the contras in Nicaragua, and affirmatively seeking to cut off the sources of hard currency for the weak and unproductive Soviet Communist economy. As a result, in 1989 the Berlin Wall fell, and the Soviet Empire collapsed. As the British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher said, "Reagan won the Cold War without firing a shot."

These are the reasons that Reagan will be recognized as the most successful President in American history.

Clinton brilliantly recognized the Reagan-led transformation of American politics, and led the Democrats to more moderate positions through the Democrat Leadership Council (DLC) and his path-breaking 1992 campaign. As Dan Mitchell now of the Cato Institute has rightly observed, President Clinton pursued the most conservative economic policies of any postwar President except Reagan. He was greatly aided in this by Newt Gingrich and his Republican takeover of Congress in 1994, as Clinton primarily just went along with the economic policies of the Republican Congressional majorities. Tony Blair basically did the same with the Labour Party in Great Britain as President Clinton did for the Democrats in America, resulting in a 12-year run for Labour Party rule in that country. With the 2007 retirement of Blair, that is now about to end.

The Democrat Wing of the Democrat Party

But for what Howard Dean termed, "The Democrat wing of the Democrat Party," by which he meant those left-wing Democrats who viewed President Clinton as a repulsive Reagan sellout, the post-1980 history recounted above never happened. These Democrats rejected both Reagan and Clinton, and have just been moving farther and farther left since 1980.

With the passing of the Clinton-Gore era, these left-wing Democrats took back their party in 2004, with the ultraliberal John Kerry winning the nomination after the collapse of the ultraliberal Howard Dean. George Soros led other badly deluded, trendy left billionaires in massively financing a dominating left-wing political machine. That machine joined with an increasingly ultraleft, formerly mainstream media to defeat the Clinton camp in 2008, and then win it all, behind their chosen front man, lifelong Marxian Barack Obama.

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/25/americas-rebirth/print

Speedy
11-26-2009, 06:47 AM
It will never happen because there are thousands of people like me who are willing to die to keep it from happening. I am off the grid. I WILL NOT pay for any of his stupid schemes, I WILL NOT participate in any of his stupid programs and am waiting with loaded guns for those who will be sent to force me. In fact, I am not really waiting, I am looking forward to it.

Unlike the idiots who think that running and living somewhere else is the way to go, I do not see that as anything other than a cowardly option I will not have anything to do with. I was born here, I remember a great America and I will not have a socialist America imposed on me. I am more than willing to die to keep that from happening but not before taking a few with me.

Big Guy
11-26-2009, 03:45 PM
It will never happen because there are thousands of people like me who are willing to die to keep it from happening. I am off the grid. I WILL NOT pay for any of his stupid schemes, I WILL NOT participate in any of his stupid programs and am waiting with loaded guns for those who will be sent to force me. In fact, I am not really waiting, I am looking forward to it.

Unlike the idiots who think that running and living somewhere else is the way to go, I do not see that as anything other than a cowardly option I will not have anything to do with. I was born here, I remember a great America and I will not have a socialist America imposed on me. I am more than willing to die to keep that from happening but not before taking a few with me.

They are watching you. :eek:

asdf2231
11-26-2009, 04:27 PM
They are watching you. :eek:

And they fekking well should be if they aren't.

That isn't Patriotism, it's fucking idiocy.

djones520
11-26-2009, 04:57 PM
It will never happen because there are thousands of people like me who are willing to die to keep it from happening. I am off the grid. I WILL NOT pay for any of his stupid schemes, I WILL NOT participate in any of his stupid programs and am waiting with loaded guns for those who will be sent to force me. In fact, I am not really waiting, I am looking forward to it.

Unlike the idiots who think that running and living somewhere else is the way to go, I do not see that as anything other than a cowardly option I will not have anything to do with. I was born here, I remember a great America and I will not have a socialist America imposed on me. I am more than willing to die to keep that from happening but not before taking a few with me.

You don't by chance live in a shack in the wilds of Montana do you?

sgrooms
11-26-2009, 06:57 PM
Guys, I am not so sure that he is that wrong.

Part of the problem with the way the US has headed is not enough people getting outraged enough to do something. Protests, letters, demonstrations, all that ilk only goes so far. Eventually people get fatigued with that sort of thing, and they ignore it. So what do you do? Bigger protests, more venomous letters, and longer demonstrations. And eventually that gets ignored as well.

At some point in time you have to do something. What that something is should be up to the individual. But I have to say that if they come to try and take my guns, I have the same attitude that Speedy does.

Lead first until it is empty.

Rockntractor
11-26-2009, 07:52 PM
Guys, I am not so sure that he is that wrong.

Part of the problem with the way the US has headed is not enough people getting outraged enough to do something. Protests, letters, demonstrations, all that ilk only goes so far. Eventually people get fatigued with that sort of thing, and they ignore it. So what do you do? Bigger protests, more venomous letters, and longer demonstrations. And eventually that gets ignored as well.

At some point in time you have to do something. What that something is should be up to the individual. But I have to say that if they come to try and take my guns, I have the same attitude that Speedy does.

Lead first until it is empty.

A lot of people will just adapt and learn to live under tyranny and criticize those that must be free.

djones520
11-26-2009, 07:54 PM
Guys, I am not so sure that he is that wrong.

Part of the problem with the way the US has headed is not enough people getting outraged enough to do something. Protests, letters, demonstrations, all that ilk only goes so far. Eventually people get fatigued with that sort of thing, and they ignore it. So what do you do? Bigger protests, more venomous letters, and longer demonstrations. And eventually that gets ignored as well.

At some point in time you have to do something. What that something is should be up to the individual. But I have to say that if they come to try and take my guns, I have the same attitude that Speedy does.

Lead first until it is empty.

There is a big differance between understanding what may need to be done, and relishing the chance for it.

One of those options makes you a bit nuts in the head.

Jfor
11-26-2009, 11:47 PM
Speedy is absolutely right. Are you going to stand by and say you will not pay for the government option unless they try and put you in jail or will you do something about it?

Big Guy
11-26-2009, 11:55 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying Speedy is wrong. What I am saying is that the Feds ARE watching, remember Ruby Ridge. I am only saying quietly prepare, hope it is never needed, and never invite it.

Rockntractor
11-27-2009, 12:16 AM
After rereading earlier remarks, right or wrong some things should not be said on an open public forum!

lacarnut
11-27-2009, 01:19 AM
After rereading earlier remarks, right or wrong some things should not be said on an open public forum!

Correct. It does not help the cause of gun owners and our rights to own them to run your mouth off about shooting people. Just gives anti-gun nuts ammo to pass more gun laws.

Speedy
11-27-2009, 07:27 AM
Correct. It does not help the cause of gun owners and our rights to own them to run your mouth off about shooting people. Just gives anti-gun nuts ammo to pass more gun laws.

Yeah! There should be a law! A law takes care of everything. We have more laws in place right now than are needed and with every law that comes out of Washington we are less free. It now seems that it is the criminals who are truly free because they do not follow these stupid laws to begin with.

You take out all laws that have nothing to do with criminal intent and you have less tyranny and more freedom. 90% of the gun laws should just be repealed. You can't carry a gun with out a permit or in some places they do not even issue you a permit. Carrying a gun SHOULD NEVER BE A CRIME. Brandishing, threatening, injuring or killing someone with a gun (unless it in defense of life, limb or property) should be a severely punished crime. You can't carry a gun into a post office. If you have no intention of commiting a crime in a post office, why should it be illegal to carry a gun there?

Now someplaces should be gun free, courtrooms, where emotions tend to run high. Bars, if you can't drive drunk you should not carry a gun where you got that way.

But other freedoms of ours, our very way of life is being taken from us and we are doing nothing about it. Our representatives are doing squat. The GOP who was our last hope cares more about being liked by Obama than by their contituents. Letters, marches, emails, phone calls, tea parties have gotten us nothing. Elections? We ELECTED this batch of idiots who now refuse to listen to us. What makes you think that the next batch is going to be any better?

That is why I am pissing on their silly fucking laws and mandates. I am taking a huge dump on their "fees" and "taxes" that I do not agree with. I do not believe that global warming is happening so I am not going to green up my fucking house or drive anything other than what I am driving now. I am going to live as free as I used to, as free as I always have but the only difference is that now, my wish for liberty and freedom is running contrary to their laws. I AM NOT PAYING ONE FUCKING DIME for their stupid healthcare and I am not going to meekly go to jail for it either.

Some people are going to piss and moan on here and on free republic but in the end, fold their hands and be no better than the DUmmies we mock and demean, all talk, no walk. I am not one of them.

Last Samurai
11-27-2009, 10:25 AM
You tell 'em, Tex! :rolleyes:

LS

lacarnut
11-27-2009, 11:26 AM
I AM NOT PAYING ONE FUCKING DIME for their stupid healthcare and I am not going to meekly go to jail for it either.

Some people are going to piss and moan on here and on free republic but in the end, fold their hands and be no better than the DUmmies we mock and demean, all talk, no walk. I am not one of them.

What are you going to do when you get sick or need an operation? Those of us that are working stiffs or retired will not have a choice. The premiums will come out of our paychecks. No, we will not have a fucking choice as you put it unless you want to go to Mexico to get medical care.

If the public option (rationing) is passed I will move out of this country because I do not want to have to kill a bunch of people for telling this old fart that the treatment or operation is too expensive. Telling me to go home and die is not an option. That is my major concern.

sgrooms
11-27-2009, 11:43 AM
Well, I am of the same mind as Speedy.

I pay my bills. I pay my taxes. I pay for my healthcare. I pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay...and it never seems to end.

To be forced to buy something for simply exisiting in this nation is wrong. I have a choice to buy a house, I have a choice to buy a car, buy a gun. Those laws governing those items I have a choice to participate in. I don't want to buy insurance or follow gun laws, I don't own those.

But to be alive in the US and have the government tell me...TELL ME, MANDATE BECAUSE I AM BORN A US CITIZEN that I have to purchase a commidity that I may or may not want violates my civil rights. I have a very hard time seeing it another way.

The time is coming. Maybe Speedy was wrong to voice his opionion in an open forum, but someone needed to for no other reason it gets people talking. I also agree with prepare and plan. Unfortunately, I am not hopeful it won't be needed. I think that time is coming rather soon and an prepared citizenry will have to stand up and be accounted for. Am I looking forward to it? Not really. Am I going to go quietly? Not at all.

FlaGator
11-27-2009, 12:20 PM
Yeah! There should be a law! A law takes care of everything.
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You are right, a law is not needed. What is needed is common sense and something that is at odds with common sense to to imply or state outright violent intentions. You can state that you're "off the radar" or "off the grid" but the fact that you are posting on an easily tracable public forum implies one of two things, that your ignorant of technology or (I'll let you figure that one out). How off the grid can you be when you claim to be a felon yet you post pictures of your guns. How off the grid can you be when you post pictures of youself, your ex-wife, your kids, your motorcycles and your SUVs?

asdf2231
11-27-2009, 12:21 PM
Wasn't there a law passed a long time ago that had to do with CONVICTED FELONS owning firearms?

Or did someone petition to have their rights restored?

djones520
11-27-2009, 12:27 PM
Wasn't there a law passed a long time ago that had to do with CONVICTED FELONS owning firearms?

Or did someone petition to have their rights restored?

They're his girlfriends.

CorwinK
11-28-2009, 10:21 PM
Preparation is something that should always be pursued if you fervently believe that the reason for your preparation will be at hand. However, you don't go and blab your plans out in a spot where the potential 'enemy' can read. There is a reason that the training plans on my ship don't leave the ship. We continually train for events that have a 99% chance of never happening...id rather not let our game plan slip out seeing as that 1% is still a chance.

Last Samurai
11-29-2009, 11:38 AM
Well, I am of the same mind as Speedy.

I pay my bills. I pay my taxes. I pay for my healthcare. I pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay...and it never seems to end.

To be forced to buy something for simply exisiting in this nation is wrong. I have a choice to buy a house, I have a choice to buy a car, buy a gun. Those laws governing those items I have a choice to participate in. I don't want to buy insurance or follow gun laws, I don't own those.

But to be alive in the US and have the government tell me...TELL ME, MANDATE BECAUSE I AM BORN A US CITIZEN that I have to purchase a commidity that I may or may not want violates my civil rights. I have a very hard time seeing it another way.

The time is coming. Maybe Speedy was wrong to voice his opionion in an open forum, but someone needed to for no other reason it gets people talking. I also agree with prepare and plan. Unfortunately, I am not hopeful it won't be needed. I think that time is coming rather soon and an prepared citizenry will have to stand up and be accounted for. Am I looking forward to it? Not really. Am I going to go quietly? Not at all.

You have a valid point, or two, or three. I see the Nation crumbling... perhaps it was inevitable since one of the prerequisites of freedom is taking responsibility for the continuation of it. Since we apparently have, in this Nation, millions who want to bear no responsibility for ANTHING, not even their own livelihood, passing these off to the Government to "provide" or "decide" for them..... what could you expect?

I, too, have "planned". It disturbs me that I have to prepare for the worst, particularly since my entire life has been spent being a "good, solid" citizen. I had hoped for a stress free, untroubled retirement. It was the "payoff" for years of struggle, self denial, ethical and lawful behavior.

Like Bill Murray observed in "The Razor's Edge", there IS no payoff for being "good". Not in this world. Thus the struggle goes on.

LS