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megimoo
12-02-2009, 12:30 PM
This might be a new one. We all know the Catholic Church is responsible for all the evils in the world but now Joel Connelly, a liberal columnist for the Seattle Pi, wrote that Catholics who take Catholicism seriously are responsible instigating anti-Catholicism.

Connelly starts off his column pretty impressively with some obfuscation, smoke, and then quickly devolves into lies. And he does it all impressively in one line. Check it out:

When he should get time to reflect after his father's recent death, and to appreciate the life of his assassinated uncle, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., is being told -- in effect -- to get out of his church.

He should be given time to appreciate his uncle who died over 40 years ago?
Look, how much time does this guy need?
I think his therapist might be overcharging.:D

But you see, Patrick Kennedy unfortunately has done very very little with his own life so Joel Connelly was forced to raise the specter of Kennedy's father and uncle as a way to reflect some borrowed glory on Patrick Kennedy.

What is it about liberals and the name "Kennedy?"
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Seriously, you want to see a liberal freak out just criticize a Kennedy.

It's kinda' fun. Bishop Tobin knows this all too well by now.

So after Connelly's done dragging out every Kennedy but Bobby, he lies. Bishop Tobin obviously never told Patrick Kennedy to "get out of his church." Not even close.

But Connelly's rolling so we'll let him continue. He says that Bishop Tobin's words are instigating a rash of anti-Catholicism.

"Millions of American Catholics have gone somewhere else -- in my case, long ago, to the Episcopal Church -- or chosen to stay home, because of the actions and pronouncements of prelates like Bishop Tobin.

In recent years, the Vatican has seen fit to install bishops who show no respect for conscience, or for a U.S. Constitution that wisely separates Caesar from Peter.

They give orders, demand unquestioned obedience, and treat Communion wafers as political weapons..

The behavior of hard-line prelates elsewhere has stoked the fires of anti-religious and anti-Catholic prejudice. Just read certain "liberal" Seattle blog sites and in the printed word.

The bishops have made it difficult to begin a necessary dialogue on prevention of unwanted pregnancies. They've made it immeasurably tougher the job of articulating legitimate ethical objections to assisted suicide.

Nor have the faithful taken political counsel from purple hats. Barack Obama, the pro-choice presidential nominee, captured a majority of votes from American Catholics in the 2008 election.

Thomas Keefe, a Spokane lawyer (and expatriate Seattlite), Catholic University law grad and former nominee for Congress, reacted to the latest brouhaha by sending off a blistering letter to the Diocese of Providence.

"It should come as little wonder why the Catholic Church continues to lose appeal in our society when a fool like Bishop Tobin passes for a church leader," Keefe wrote.

So the loony anti-Catholics are out for blood and whose fault is it? Bishop Tobin's of course.

And the poor Vatican must be reeling because some guy who ran for Congress (AND LOST!) called Bishop Tobin a "fool." I'm sure the Vatican is quivering that some lawyer from Spokane dashed off a blistering letter.

The odd thing here is that Connelly admits that he left the Church. And so can Kennedy. So can anyone. It's a volunteer organization.

The Church is the Church. Nobody's forced to join.

But for some reason, people freak out all the time about the Church "forcing" people to do this or that. How? The Swiss Guard?

I know. I know. The Church is responsible for all the evils in the world. And now, according to Connelly the Church is also responsible for anti-Catholicism.

Oddly, I don't remember Connelly's column excoriating Muslim terrorists for instigating anti-Islamic behavior but maybe that's next

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2009/11/catholics-instigate-anti-catholicism.html

JB
12-02-2009, 06:48 PM
Millions of American Catholics have gone somewhere else -- in my case, long ago, to the Episcopal Church -- or chosen to stay homeI've said it before, it's not a religion for wimps.

If you're Christian but not Catholic you're just phoning it in.

JackKetch
12-02-2009, 09:02 PM
I've said it before, it's not a religion for wimps.

If you're Christian but not Catholic you're just phoning it in.

well said. and we get a lot of protestants swimming the tiber every year, offsetting those who go episcopal or whatever. more catholics should go episcopal, imo, get their women priests, gay priests, gay marriages, abortion ok, etc., and leave us to be catholic.

Bubba Dawg
12-02-2009, 09:10 PM
I've said it before, it's not a religion for wimps.

If you're Christian but not Catholic you're just phoning it in.

I knew this RC Priest who called Episcopalians (of which I am one) Junior Varsity.

noonwitch
12-03-2009, 08:52 AM
well said. and we get a lot of protestants swimming the tiber every year, offsetting those who go episcopal or whatever. more catholics should go episcopal, imo, get their women priests, gay priests, gay marriages, abortion ok, etc., and leave us to be catholic.




My catholic-hating mother (she hates evangelicals, too) would tell you that the only reason the Catholic Church is growing is because it is opposed to birth control. Then she would tell you that the only reason that the Catholic Church is opposed to birth control is so that there can be more Catholics than anyone else in the world. After that, she'd tell you how the nuns who taught my grandpa in Austria tied his left hand behind his back to make him learn to write with his right hand, because they thought left-handed children were the devil's children.

Needless to say, my mom loves that infamous song from Monty Python's Meaning Of Life.

I'm more reasonable. There are things about Catholicism I like and respect (history, music, architecture), and things that will always keep me Protestant, beyond just women's issues-things like the literal belief in transubstantiation, or the need for a middle man to ask God for forgiveness, the boring litanies, or the weird, modern catholic churches with bizarre murals behind the altar (the last one I went to had a mural with really phallic-looking beams of light that resembeled Twinkies, my uncle's funeral was in one that had orange, shag carpeting on the floor of the dias, and a mural in HOJO orange and blue). I like the Prayer of St. Francis, though, and it's something we use sometimes in my church.