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LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Food Bank Shortages

Last Update: 6/02 7:34 pm

Food pantries in Binghamton are struggling to provide for needy families.

With rising gas and food prices - and with a higher demand during the summer, food banks are not sure how they'll be able to feed the surge of people coming through the doors.

Davida Hughes comes to the catholic charities food bank on main street once a month.

"The prices are going up and it's been really hard and I get a few food stamps but then that runs out, so thank goodness we come here and they help out a lot."

Davida is already on food stamps and she says they don't cover the amount of groceries she needs.

"You think you're getting something then all of a sudden your food stamps are gone so I have to come here."

Catholic Charities patrons can come in once a month and pick what they want to eat. People can get up to 10 meals per week, but pantries are struggling.

http://www.newschannel34.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=428716b0-a501-4e31-872f-0f1ab5a7b3ce

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 12:25 PM
I’m confused. With so many employers needing people - how is it these folks don’t just work an extra job to make ends meet?:confused:

Gingersnap
06-03-2008, 12:30 PM
I’m confused. With so many employers needing people - how is it these folks don’t just work an extra job to make ends meet?:confused:

Why work when you don't have to?

On a more serious note, when people enroll in the food stamp program they should also be required to take a few hours of food-related Home Ec. It's amazing the number of people who can't cook enough to make the most of a dollar and how few know how to plan for a week's worth of meals at a modest cost.

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 01:08 PM
So these new people coming to the food banks - not the typical folks that have always come for assistance, fall under that ‘just to lazy / can’t cook economically’ heading?

Gingersnap
06-03-2008, 01:46 PM
So these new people coming to the food banks - not the typical folks that have always come for assistance, fall under that ‘just to lazy / can’t cook economically’ heading?

Probably. This can't be the very first story you have ever read involving the equation [name the crisis] = [hedge fund managers seek food pantry help] x (women and minorities hardest hit). No matter what happens, some newsie will develop the tried and true Food Pantry angle.

If you are used to a fixed food budget and prices rise by a certain percentage, you need to change your buying habits to compensate. If you don't change your habits and preferences you will run out of money and have to hit the food pantry - ta DAH!

This isn't rocket science.

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 01:48 PM
Well, that answers that. For a moment there I thought the country was actually in a recession. Thanks.:)

JB
06-03-2008, 01:59 PM
For a moment there I thought the country was actually in a recession.
Why did you think that?

biccat
06-03-2008, 02:03 PM
Why did you think that?
BDS. Like the rest of the liberals, he wants to create the sense that Republican leadership has destroyed the economy so that his favorite candidate can claim that McCain is just Bush III, and sweep into the White House.

Too bad he fails to realize that the economic slowdown started as his candidate was elected to the US Senate.

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 02:07 PM
Why did you think that?

Because of things like this?

Growing Demand, Soaring Costs Hit Hard at Food Banks in State


People often assume food bank clients are homeless or people without jobs. But MFN is seeing an increase in workers, people who are employed but not making enough to get by.

"People are making sacrifices in order to buy gas and pay rent," Satterwhite said. "At least 1.3 million more people nationally have enrolled in the federal Food Stamp Program compared to last year."

At the same time more people need help, food bank donations are down for several reasons. Because of high commodity prices and the weak dollar, farmers are exporting more of their crop.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/1411680/growing_demand_soaring_costs_hit_hard_at_food_bank s_in/#

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 02:10 PM
Too bad he fails to realize that the economic slowdown started as his candidate was elected to the US Senate.

John McCain / January 1987? That's when this started? Wow - didn't know that.

You must be one Hell of an economist! :eek:

linda22003
06-03-2008, 02:11 PM
That's anecdotal. A recession has a common definition of two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, and that's not the current situation. A general slowdown and persistent feeling of "malaise" does not mean recession.

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 02:18 PM
More "anecdotal",

Food banks face high costs but feeding more people

By EVELYN NIEVES – May 26, 2008

STOCKTON, Calif. (AP) — Jackie Hoffman sifted through a laundry bin filled with aging bread, choosing a loaf of white.

Like nearly a third of the first 50 customers to arrive at the Emergency Food Bank of Stockton that morning, Hoffman was new to the pantry. But since she lost her sales job at a local newspaper in December, she has not found work in Stockton, which has the highest foreclosure rate in the country and a hurting job market.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hput8LtBOaDqn_jKVLlQRIR2lMswD90TIJLG0

linda22003
06-03-2008, 02:23 PM
it's definitely a slowdown. But throwing the word "recession" around doesn't make it so.

LogansPapa
06-03-2008, 02:26 PM
it's definitely a slowdown. But throwing the word "recession" around doesn't make it so.

So, like the word "quagmire" used to describe Rumsfeld’s war in Iraq - if we simply don’t use a certain word it makes the situation less icky?

JB
06-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Because of things like this? <snip>That doesn't mean the country is in a recession. Just because you mistakenly use that word doesn't mean it is.

biccat
06-03-2008, 02:30 PM
So, like the word "quagmire" used to describe Rumsfeld’s war in Iraq - if we simply don’t use a certain word it makes the situation less icky?
Except Iraq is not a quagmire, and the economy is not in a recession.

A better example might be your use of the phrase "I support the troops." We all know it's a complete fabrication, but somehow you're allowed to stay despite your disdain for those who choose to serve their country.

linda22003
06-03-2008, 02:32 PM
So, like the word "quagmire" used to describe Rumsfeld’s war in Iraq - if we simply don’t use a certain word it makes the situation less icky?

No, I'm just saying that words mean something, and shouldn't be thrown around just because they sound good. Some people here throw around the word "treason" on anything they don't happen to like. Something that really is treasonous has to fit certain criteria, otherwise it's just people being melodramatic for effect. Same thing with your use of "recession".