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megimoo
12-04-2009, 07:50 AM
Surprising Study On Terrorism

Few would deny that Muslims too are victims of Islamist terror. But a new study by the Combating Terrorism Center in the US has shown that an overwhelming majority of al-Qaida victims are, in fact, co-religionists.

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Even the Iraqi affiliates of Osama bin Laden's terror group, who are known to be particularly bloodthirsty, claim that they too consider this question. For instance, in a message claiming responsibility for an August attack in Baghdad, the group wished those Sunnis injured in the "operation" a speedy recovery and expressed their hope that those killed would be accepted by God as "martyrs."

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Between 2004 and 2008, for example, al-Qaida claimed responsibility for 313 attacks, resulting in the deaths of 3,010 people. And even though these attacks include terrorist incidents in the West -- in Madrid in 2004 and in London in 2005 -- only 12 percent of those killed (371 deaths) were Westerners.

New Report Shows Many More Muslims Killed Than Non-Muslims

It is, of course, no surprise that al-Qaida kills more Muslims than non-Muslims -- particularly for people in the Islamic world. But a new report by the Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) at the United States' Military Academy at West Point in New York -- which has gathered together these and other relevant figures in one report ("Deadly Vanguards: A Study Of al-Qaida's Violence Against Muslims "), spells out the discrepancy in black and white.

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The researchers only counted the attacks for which al-Qaida claimed responsibility, thus preventing accusations that they were seeking to make al-Qaida look even worse than it is. Still, it is well known that al-Qaida does not claim responsibility for every attack perpetrated, meaning that many victims are likely left out of the report. Furthermore, the researchers only included attacks reported on by the Arab media and relied on the numbers they reported -- out of a conviction that the Arab media is more highly regarded in the Muslim world than the Western media. That, though, is not always the case.

Blurred Figures And Inexact Categories Are Problematic

The greatest potential for inaccuracy in the report, however, is the placing of victims into only one of two categories: Western or non-Western. The assumption being that Western would also mean non-Muslim and vice versa. The problems with such a system of categorization are myriad. Not all those living in the Muslim world are Muslim: In Iraq, al-Qaida has launched attacks against Kurds, Yazidi and Christians. Secondly, a lot of the Muslim victims are actually -- and deliberately -- Shiites. A Sunni group, al-Qaida considers the Shiites to be unbelievers.

Unfortunately news reports don't tend to differentiate between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, explains Scott Helfstein, one of the writers of the report. This is also the reason for the non-Western and Western categories. "It is easy for journalists to count nationality but they rarely, if ever, identify religion," Helfstein writes in reply to e-mailed questions from SPIEGEL ONLINE. The report's writers were well aware of the problem. "But we were not able to find a way around it," Helfstein notes.

Indeed, the report's authors confront the shortcomings of their methodology head on. In one passage, they remove attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan from their calculations altogether, resulting in the share of Westerners killed in al-Qaida attacks rising to a much more significant 39 percent. If one removes the Madrid and London attacks from the statistics, though, the share of murdered Westerners drops back down to 13 percent.

Perhaps more significantly, if one only examines attacks in 2007 and disregards those having been perpetrated in Iraq and Afghanistan, the share of non-Westerners killed by al-Qaida rises to 99 percent. In 2008, it was 96 percent.

Non-Westerners 38 Times More Likely To Be Killed

Put another way, between 2006 and 2008, non-Westerners were 38 times more likely to be killed by an al-Qaida attack than Westerners.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,660619,00.html
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Sonnabend
12-04-2009, 07:51 AM
..and I am supposed to care....why?

noonwitch
12-04-2009, 08:45 AM
..and I am supposed to care....why?



I think muslims should know and should care, though.

djones520
12-04-2009, 08:46 AM
I think muslims should know and should care, though.

Falling on deaf ears Noon. Only good muslim is a dead one. :rolleyes:

BadCat
12-04-2009, 09:51 AM
Falling on deaf ears Noon. Only good muslim is a dead one. :rolleyes:

It's about time you saw it my way.

FlaGator
12-04-2009, 12:02 PM
..and I am supposed to care....why?

Here is why you should care. The sooner muslims realize that Al-Qaida is more interested in killing than it is in Islam, the sooner the muslims will stand up and fight against them. My enemy's enemy is my friend...

NJCardFan
12-04-2009, 12:39 PM
..and I am supposed to care....why?
They're equal opportunity beheaders I guess.

PoliCon
12-04-2009, 12:41 PM
..and I am supposed to care....why?

YOU'RE not. But those of us who THINK do care. :rolleyes:

Sonnabend
12-04-2009, 07:38 PM
The sooner muslims realize that Al-Qaida is more interested in killing than it is in Islam, the sooner the muslims will stand up and fight against them. My enemy's enemy is my friend... Today 01:51 AM


The day I see a one million muslim march in deepest and sincerest apology for the 102 deaths over cartoons, I will believe you.

When I see imams in mosques PUBLICALLY and IN ENGLISH denouncing terrorism, when the mothers of those responsible turn in their little darlings to the relevant police...then I will believe it.

Stand up and fight them? They shelter them and hide them from the "kufr".

Religion of Peace....MY ASS...

Rockntractor
12-04-2009, 08:18 PM
YOU'RE not. But those of us who THINK do care. :rolleyes:
It is a shame they kill us too or they would be a problem that would take care of itself!

PoliCon
12-04-2009, 11:07 PM
It is a shame they kill us too or they would be a problem that would take care of itself!

True.