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patriot45
12-08-2009, 11:57 AM
Color me a glowball warming denier! (http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2009/12/08/four_colossal_holes_in_the_theory_of_man-made_global_warming?page=full&comments=true) This says it all!




Repeating the words "scientific consensus" over and over and telling sad stories about polar bears does not qualify as "science." So, why is it that the people who insist that Man-made global warming is based on science, not politics, always get shaky and defensive when people want to actually talk about the reasoning behind it?

When was the last time you heard a scientist get hysterical when you asked him to explain Einstein's theory of relativity? If you ask a scientist why nothing can move faster than the speed of light, he doesn't tell you a terrible story about how koala bears will die if you don't believe the theory is right, does he? Scientists who are confident and in command of the facts don't need to distort data and duck basic questions about the assumptions that are behind scientific theories.

So, why is it that the people who insist that man-made global warming is occurring right now can't come up with coherent answers to many of the most basic problems with the ideas that undergird their theory?

Climate change has been around as long as the earth: If you listen to global warming alarmists, you'd think the climate had been a flat line until mankind started industrializing, after which the temperature rocketed straight upwards. However, the reality is far different, as even the New York Times has been willing to admit:


In October, Dr. (Don) Easterbrook made similar points at the geological society meeting in Philadelphia. He hotly disputed Mr. Gore's claim that "our civilization has never experienced any environmental shift remotely similar to this" threatened change.

Nonsense, Dr. Easterbrook told the crowded session. He flashed a slide that showed temperature trends for the past 15,000 years. It highlighted 10 large swings, including the medieval warm period. These shifts, he said, were up to "20 times greater than the warming in the past century."


So, the planet has had bigger temperature shifts than the one we're experiencing now. It has also been warmer than it is today:


The...warming before our last ice age was much warmer than anything we've had since. We had a warming that peaked 9000 years ago, another warming that peaked 5000 years ago. Both were warmer than today. Probably the Roman warming and the medieval warming were both warmer than today -- and we've had 8 warmings of the earth since the last Ice Age.

So how can we, given our limited knowledge of how the climate works, attribute the extremely limited amount of warming we experienced over the last century to mankind? The honest answer is: We can't.

Snip...... to the heart!

What the global warming alarmists are asking of people is no small thing. They want us to spend trillions of dollars, dramatically impact our economies, and change the way people across the world live for the worse. Those are not trivial changes and simply having scientists -- who've been put under enormous political pressure and make a living off global warming grants – say, "Trust us, it's real," isn't going to cut it for proof. If global warming alarmists can't even deliver plausible answers to the most obvious problems with their theory, then no one should take them seriously. Read the rest here (http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2009/12/08/four_colossal_holes_in_the_theory_of_man-made_global_warming?page=2)

Rebel Yell
12-08-2009, 12:03 PM
Has this article been peer reviewed? If not, then it is meaningless and shuoldn't be discussed.

patriot45
12-08-2009, 12:08 PM
Has this article been peer reviewed? If not, then it is meaningless and shuoldn't be discussed.

I'm shaped like a "pear" and I reviewed it, discuss!

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 12:23 PM
I'm shaped like a "pear" and I reviewed it, discuss!

Bartlett, Bosc or Asian pear?

Speedy
12-08-2009, 12:30 PM
I'm shaped like a "pear" and I reviewed it, discuss!

Good, then we can discuss it.

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 12:32 PM
What part should we discuss first?

Speedy
12-08-2009, 12:43 PM
What part should we discuss first?

It is best to start at the beginning.

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 12:47 PM
It is best to start at the beginning.
I don't like that part!

Speedy
12-08-2009, 12:51 PM
I don't like that part!

Okay, then the rest of us will start at the beginning and you can join us when we get to a part that you like.

Here we go:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day...

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 01:02 PM
Okay, then the rest of us will start at the beginning and you can join us when we get to a part that you like.

Here we go:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day...

I agree.

AmPat
12-08-2009, 03:47 PM
..then God said, let us make rebel Yell in the image of a pear. Now that we caught up to pear reviews, we can dig into the junk science.:)

FlaGator
12-08-2009, 05:38 PM
What part should we discuss first?

Pie or cobbler.

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 06:39 PM
Pie or cobbler.

I like pie better because it has more crust!

SarasotaRepub
12-08-2009, 07:11 PM
Will you guys stop teasing Wilbur??? :mad::D:D

I think I "misplaced" some data...anyone see it? :confused:

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 07:12 PM
Will you guys stop teasing Wilbur??? :mad::D:D

I think I "misplaced" some data...anyone see it? :confused:
I threw it away it was clogging up the interwebs!

FlaGator
12-08-2009, 07:20 PM
Will you guys stop teasing Wilbur??? :mad::D:D

I think I "misplaced" some data...anyone see it? :confused:

I think you left it in the bit bucket.

SarasotaRepub
12-08-2009, 07:33 PM
What did I hear from some "scientist" today that looked like a flood victum...

He said his buds were just "blowing off steam" when they sent those
nasty emails to each other. :D

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 07:40 PM
What did I hear from some "scientist" today that looked like a flood victum...

He said his buds were just "blowing off steam" when they sent those
nasty emails to each other. :D
Steam or water vapor is the worst greenhouse gas of all!:D

Troll
12-08-2009, 07:44 PM
"Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists"

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html

"Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says"

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Eagle
12-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Okay, then the rest of us will start at the beginning and you can join us when we get to a part that you like.

Here we go:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day...

You left out the next part where God said; Watch out for the hypocrite politicians who will lie for their own power gain.

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 07:50 PM
You left out the next part where God said; Watch out for the hypocrite politicians who will lie for their own power gain.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
Matthew 7:15

Rockntractor
12-08-2009, 07:53 PM
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