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FlaGator
12-15-2009, 06:49 PM
If they pass the Health Care bill and then in the mid terms the Republicans do really well can they dismantle what the Dems have put in to place? Can they find enough dems to assist them to make it veto proof. I am thinking that this may be a possibility if enough of the dems who voted for it are voted out of office and those replacing them can read the writing on the wall.

Rockntractor
12-15-2009, 06:52 PM
If they pass the Health Care bill and then in the mid terms the Republicans do really well can they dismantle what the Dems have put in to place? Can they find enough dems to assist them to make it veto proof. I am thinking that this may be a possibility if enough of the dems who voted for it are voted out of office and those replacing them can read the writing on the wall.
If you can vote in socialism you can vote it out. The new system would not go into effect until 2012 anyway!

SarasotaRepub
12-15-2009, 07:49 PM
It would be tough, when has anyone in DC voted to get rid
of an entitlement once it's law??

I hope our elected officials would have the courage but...

Bubba Dawg
12-15-2009, 08:10 PM
What SR said.

When the original Social Security Act passed, it had very little Republican Support.

When Medicare passed, it had very little Republican support.

The ongoing existence of either program has never faced any significant Republican challenge because voters apparently liked Social Security and also liked Medicare.

Same principle applies.

FeebMaster
12-15-2009, 08:12 PM
The question isn't "can they." The question is "will they."

The answer is "no."

Rockntractor
12-15-2009, 08:15 PM
The question isn't "can they." The question is "will they."

The answer is "no."

Go stick your head in a blender!:D

Bubba Dawg
12-15-2009, 08:16 PM
Go stick your head in a blender!:D

See Feeb. A Prophet hath no honour in his own country....:D

Gingersnap
12-15-2009, 09:12 PM
The question isn't "can they." The question is "will they."

The answer is "no."

Feeb is right (and SR). When was last time you saw an entitlement reversed? For me, it's been "never". Clinton modified welfare while kicking and screaming but he sure didn't end it or put it back to what it looked like before LBJ. :(

Troll
12-15-2009, 09:29 PM
Please tell me nobody at this website is really hoping the government is going to get us out of this mess? :confused: :confused: :confused:

FeebMaster
12-15-2009, 09:40 PM
Feeb is right (and SR). When was last time you saw an entitlement reversed? For me, it's been "never". Clinton modified welfare while kicking and screaming but he sure didn't end it or put it back to what it looked like before LBJ. :(

Why reverse something when you can reform, fix, or improve it? The fact that doing so will conveniently increase the power of the government is purely coincidental.



See Feeb. A Prophet hath no honour in his own country....:D

Just call me Cassandra.

patriot45
12-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Grassroots! The Tea Party will rule! Turn this government back 75 years!

Us children can wish can't we!

lacarnut
12-15-2009, 09:44 PM
I am hoping that the health care bill is dragged out till after the Jan 19, 2010 senate election in MA. The Repub. has a shot at winning Kennedy's old seat; that would stop this abortion from passing.

If it passes, collection of taxes will start in 2010 but benefits will not commence till 2014. What a farce; the first 10 years will have 6 years of benefits and 10 years of revenues. The following 10 years, the health care costs will go out of sight.

patriot45
12-15-2009, 09:47 PM
I am hoping that the health care bill is dragged out till after the Jan 19, 2010 senate election in MA. The Repub. has a shot at winning Kennedy's old seat; that would stop this abortion from passing.

If it passes, collection of taxes will start in 2010 but benefits will not commence till 2014. What a farce; the first 10 years will have 6 years of benefits and 10 years of revenues. The following 10 years, the health care costs will go out of sight.

And always believe a gov. program never goes over budget! :rolleyes: All thier little bills will drown this country! I hate liberals.

Rockntractor
12-15-2009, 09:57 PM
And always believe a gov. program never goes over budget! :rolleyes: All thier little bills will drown this country! I hate liberals.

I hate um more than you!

PoliCon
12-15-2009, 09:59 PM
The question isn't "can they." The question is "will they."

The answer is "no."

I have to agree with Feeb. Pessimistic but true.

Rockntractor
12-15-2009, 10:02 PM
I have to agree with Feeb. Pessimistic but true.

We need to just change the word to feebimistic!

FeebMaster
12-15-2009, 11:01 PM
We need to just change the word to feebimistic!

Also known as realistic.

Rockntractor
12-15-2009, 11:26 PM
Also known as realistic.

You may be responsible for future suicides. I prefer to toy with the peasants and not let them know their circumstances are so hopeless.

Oceander
12-15-2009, 11:49 PM
The question isn't "can they." The question is "will they."

The answer is "no."

Precisely. Theoretically, it could happen; practically ... no.

marv
12-16-2009, 11:37 AM
If HC is passed and signed, the taxes cut in immediately. The benefits wait another four years. That's an Achilles' heel for the Dems. That's four years to cut and trim. Any number of "must sign" bills can contain the necessary wording. But first, we need a Conservative House and Senate. The longer the HC bill is delayed, the more time the next administration will have to fix things.

Some thoughts: the DailyKos/Moveon morons are disappointed in hussein, projected Dem turnout for 2010 are low even in the Dem camp, voters have to live long enough to get the benefits they start paying immediately.

But first things first - 2010!