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Zathras
07-28-2008, 08:17 PM
By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
45 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Monday approved the execution of an Army private, the first time in over a half-century that a president has affirmed a death sentence for a member of the U.S. military.

With his signature from the Oval Office, Bush said yes to the military's request to execute Ronald A. Gray, the White House confirmed. Gray had had been convicted in connection with a spree of four murders and eight rapes in the Fayetteville, N.C., area over eight months in the late 1980s while stationed at Fort Bragg.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080728/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_military_execution)

Now let's hope the death sentence will be applied to those who deserted durring the current conflict and ran like little Eyelids to Canada.

Space Gravy
07-28-2008, 08:22 PM
What a dilemma for some.

megimoo
07-28-2008, 08:30 PM
What a dilemma for some.This guy is a Rapist and multiple murderer but it's still a very hard call !
Brings to mind an old movie.The execution of Private Slovik !

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/16294/The-Execution-of-Private-Slovik/overview

Eyelids
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
Now let's hope the death sentence will be applied to those who deserted durring the current conflict and ran like little Eyelids to Canada.
What are you talking about?

Zathras
07-29-2008, 12:19 AM
What are you talking about?

It's a lot easier to type "Eyelids" than "gutless, dishonorable. lying sack of shit". After all, they are one and the same.

ArmyRet
07-29-2008, 01:28 AM
What a dilemma for some.

:confused: Why would that be? (unless you're talking about people who hate both the military and the death penalty)

Space Gravy
07-29-2008, 07:32 AM
:confused: Why would that be? (unless you're talking about people who hate both the military and the death penalty)

Exactly.

I bet they won't rally around this guy like they did Tookie.

Sonnabend
07-29-2008, 08:54 AM
No dilemma. He had his day in court...now it's time to pay the piper.

Eyelids, Zathras is saying that deserters should be shot. I agree.

Odysseus
07-29-2008, 12:57 PM
No dilemma. He had his day in court...now it's time to pay the piper.
Eyelids, Zathras is saying that deserters should be shot. I agree.

The only dilemma will be for the antiwar, anti-death penalty folks. On the one hand, they have a rapist and murderer who is slated for execution, so they will be outraged. On the other hand, he's military, and they want to see us dead, so they'll have to decide which principle leads.

Deserters and those who give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Eyelids
07-29-2008, 02:43 PM
Deserters and those who give aid and comfort to the enemy.
This has always kind of gotten me.

What if an enemy soldier has fallen and needs medical attention? Shouldn't there be some traces of humanity even in war?

Zafod
07-29-2008, 02:47 PM
This has always kind of gotten me.

What if an enemy soldier has fallen and needs medical attention? Shouldn't there be some traces of humanity even in war?

Yeah if he lays down his weapon and surenders.....

Otherwise you cut him down where he lays...

Aklover
07-29-2008, 04:54 PM
What a dilemma for some.



As Governor GWB could just stand aside as CIC he basicly has to sign the death warrant. Why his daddy nor Clinton signed it is puzzling. I'm not convinced the death penalty works as a deterrent and it costs more to the taxpayer than a life sentence.

Aklover
07-29-2008, 04:56 PM
How do they execute under the UCMJ? Firing squad, hanging, electric chair?

Sonnabend
07-29-2008, 04:59 PM
I'm not convinced the death penalty works as a deterrent and it costs more to the taxpayer than a life sentence.

100% of offendors executed never reoffend...and you are not making sense.

A life sentence costs millions in jail time,food and guards.

A bullet costs $1.25.

Aklover
07-29-2008, 05:18 PM
100% of offendors executed never reoffend...and you are not making sense.

A life sentence costs millions in jail time,food and guards.

A bullet costs $1.25.


Appellate process in the U.S. costs millions. Prison costs can and should be driven down.

Jumpy
07-29-2008, 05:54 PM
This guy is a Rapist and multiple murderer but it's still a very hard call !
Brings to mind an old movie.The execution of Private Slovik !

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/16294/The-Execution-of-Private-Slovik/overview This would not be a hard call for me. He deserves the death penalty.

Theophilus
07-29-2008, 06:04 PM
Life without parole. Death is the easy way out.

Zathras
07-29-2008, 06:09 PM
This has always kind of gotten me.

What if an enemy soldier has fallen and needs medical attention? Shouldn't there be some traces of humanity even in war?

Problem is, in this war, the enemy in this war are not soldiers but common thugs that need to be put down as quickly as possible. Soldiers wear the uniform of a nation. Terrorists like who we're fighting do not and therefore do not deserve quarter and should be lined up against a wall and shot as soon as they are captured, wounded or not.

Zathras
07-29-2008, 06:11 PM
How do they execute under the UCMJ? Firing squad, hanging, electric chair?

I think it's lethal injection these days.

Aklover
07-29-2008, 06:25 PM
I think it's lethal injection these days.



I'd have voted for wood chipper.

FuroraCeltica
08-02-2008, 08:47 AM
This raping, murdering scum bag deserves the death penalty. In America you still have proper justice and proper punishment.

Of course here in the People's Revolutionary Socialist Dictatorship of the European Union (EU), they have abolished the death penalty for all crimes, regardless of public demands to have it brought back. I'm just waiting for some kind of condemnation from the EU for this execution.

Lanie
08-02-2008, 02:31 PM
Life without parole. Death is the easy way out.

Agreed. I also can't bring myself to support the death penalty even though I'm tempted to at times.

I like Bush's consistancy though.

MstrBlue
08-04-2008, 09:37 PM
I think it's lethal injection these days.

Army Regulation 190-55 dated 17 Jan 2006 mandates that "Military executions will be by lethal injection."

I can only presume that all of the Services would adhere to a similar guideline.

Personally, in this case, I agree with the wood-chipper suggestion!

Sonnabend
08-05-2008, 08:18 AM
Mine is still the flying lesson.

Toss him out of a plane at 10,000 feet without a parachute. If he learns to fly before he hits the ground, he goes free.