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djones520
01-17-2010, 09:01 AM
1. Dick Cheney (6 in the 2007 list )

Former Vice President of the United States

A low key and intensely loyal vice-president, Dick Cheney has emerged as the principal tormentor of Barack Obama in the past year, shaping the national debate on national security and forcing the White House to scramble to respond. Cheney signalled his intent way back in February when he stated that protecting America was “a tough, mean, dirty, nasty business” in which “evil people” would not be stopped “by turning the other cheek”. Having campaigned against the “politics of fear” and ridiculing the notion of a war on terror, Obama is finding out that the Islamist threat was not something dreamed up by Cheney and Bush. The President has been repeatedly rattled by Cheney, as illustrated by his decision last May to time a speech so that it would coincide with the former vice-president’s address at the American Enterprise Institute. It was Cheney who framed Obama’s delay on deciding his Afghanistan surge strategy as “dithering” – and the characterisation stuck.

Some Republicans are deeply uncomfortable about Cheney being the voice of national security for the party – and in many respects the main voice on any issue. They fret that he is old and white and grumpy and has low approval rating – making him, in essence, everything that Obama is not (though the gap between their approval ratings is narrowing). We judge that this is missing the point. Cheney’s role at this stage – before a new Republican leader emerges – is to energise the party base (and he will also be a prodigious fundraiser for 2010 and 2012), keep Obama on the back foot and engage in the “tough, mean, dirty, nasty business” of politics that some with their names on future ballots would prefer to sit out.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6990965/The-most-influential-US-conservatives-20-1.html

Interesting read.

djones520
01-17-2010, 09:13 AM
Probably one of the most glowing reviews a major media source has ever done for President Bush.


12. George W. Bush (21)

Former President

In 2007, George W. Bush just missed our Top 20 top conservatives list – a provocative and controversial decision but one that reflected his disastrous poll ratings, the dismay of conservatives at out-of-control spending, the colossal mistakes over Iraq and his failure to consolidate the conservative majority he had won. Aides protested that history would vindicate him and already there are signs that this is happening. The Iraq “surge” of 2007 unquestionably won the war and has helped establish a viable democratic state in the heart of the Middle East. There were terrible errors committed along the way but Bush showed the vision and toughness to change course and commit American blood and treasure when all appeared lost.

Bush’s influence endures also because Obama and his advisers seem scarcely able to do anything without referring to his predecessor. This betrays a shallowness that is beginning to wear thin with American voters. With the recent terrorist attacks, Bush’s relentless focus on Islamist terrorism now looks wise rather than obsessive and he bequeathed Obama one of the most impressive members of the current Cabinet – Bob Gates. Bush’s absence from the limelight and his refusal to criticise Obama even through surrogates is to be commended. So too was his personal insistence that led to the transition between the two administrations being one of the smoothest in American history.

NJCardFan
01-17-2010, 11:28 AM
Bush is no conservative. He's the quintessential neo-con if there ever was one.

AlmostThere
01-17-2010, 01:44 PM
I read through the entire list yesterday, both conservative and liberal. This was so one-sided, it was painful to read.


67. Keith Olbermann (67)
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Presenter, MSNBC
A former sports reporter and baseball expert, Olbermann has used his MSNBC cable show Countdown to style himself the alternative to Bill O’Reilly, promoting an increasingly liberal agenda and engaging in a periodical feud with his rival on Fox. In terms of ratings, it has not been a roaring success, but he will be a force on the Left for some time to come.
In terms of ratings, it has not been a roaring success????
Yea, I guess you could say that.



26. Mark Levin (31)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01558/mark-levin_1558497a.jpg
Talk radio host
A radio host, lawyer and author, Levin served in the Reagan White House and began his media life as a guest on Sean Hannity’s show, where he was nicknamed “the Great One”. Number four in the talk radio ratings, Levin attracts scorn from liberals and moderate conservatives alike. New York Times columnist David Brooks labelled him as someone as one of a number of "people I consider loons and harmful for America". David Frum, former Bush speechwriter, lamented how Levin’s latest book Liberty and Tyranny was "suffused with this message of doom" and urged him to stop whining. But it was a message that has sold nearly one million copies.Arlen Specter has shown a talent for self-preservation throughout his career while Joe Lieberman is a wavering Democratic turncoat.

I am so tired of the liberal's crap. :mad:

Troll
01-17-2010, 02:19 PM
http://bogieworks.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c581e53ef010536bbe3df970b-800wi

No wonder America is in the shape it's in.

300 million people in the country, and only 11 of them are better conservatives than George Bush. We are screwed. :rolleyes:

hampshirebrit
01-17-2010, 02:28 PM
DJ is right. It is a very interesting read.

On Bush:


Bush’s influence endures also because Obama and his advisers seem scarcely able to do anything without referring to his predecessor. This betrays a shallowness that is beginning to wear thin with American voters. With the recent terrorist attacks, Bush’s relentless focus on Islamist terrorism now looks wise rather than obsessive and he bequeathed Obama one of the most impressive members of the current Cabinet – Bob Gates. Bush’s absence from the limelight and his refusal to criticise Obama even through surrogates is to be commended. So too was his personal insistence that led to the transition between the two administrations being one of the smoothest in American history.

As an aside, I am on the verge of abandoning The Times of London as my first news hit of the day. The Telegraph is turning out to be a far better source for both news and comment. Some of the Times' op ed contributors are abysmal, particularly the dreadful David Aaronovitch. Only Jeremy Clarkson (ffs!!!) and Matthew Parris seem to have a clue these days.

NJCardFan
01-17-2010, 02:56 PM
Arlen Specter has shown a talent for self-preservation throughout his career while Joe Lieberman is a wavering Democratic turncoat.

I am so tired of the liberal's crap. :mad:
I never understood this. The Democrats promote a far left candidate in the Connecticut primary forcing Lieberman to go Independent which is ultimately won basically turning their back on Lieberman, their onetime choice for Veep yet he's the turncoat.

AlmostThere
01-17-2010, 05:44 PM
I never understood this. The Democrats promote a far left candidate in the Connecticut primary forcing Lieberman to go Independent which is ultimately won basically turning their back on Lieberman, their onetime choice for Veep yet he's the turncoat.

There are a couple things that Lieberman decides for himself and doesn't follow the herd. A couple to many obviously. :rolleyes:

fettpett
01-17-2010, 09:43 PM
um....there are quite a few on there that shouldn't, Romney, McCain are a couple and some that should be moved up, Paul Ryan and Mike Pense. I'm from Ryan's district orginally and remember when he first got elected. I'd love for him to either move up to the Senate and replace Khole or move into a bigger National Stage VP canidate for instance.

Rockntractor
01-17-2010, 09:53 PM
http://bogieworks.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c581e53ef010536bbe3df970b-800wi

No wonder America is in the shape it's in.

300 million people in the country, and only 11 of them are better conservatives than George Bush. We are screwed. :rolleyes:

Screwed dry, no lube!