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NJCardFan
01-31-2010, 09:31 PM
For weeks I've been trying to start this topic but couldn't figure how to go about it but then I thought, screw it, let me just ask the question but can someone explain to me when, how, and why are a majority of blacks raging, rabid Marxists? If there were ever a section of society who would embrace freedom in all it's forms would be the group that for nearly 200 years were slaves in this country then spent another 100 fighting for equality only to turn into a group of people who are nearly completely dependent on the government for all of their needs or feel that the government should be providing for them. Couple that with their admonition of anyone who strays from the collective like Larry Elder, Michael Steel, Allen West, J.C. Watts or any other black person who decides to be conservative. Can someone please clarify this for me?

Rockntractor
01-31-2010, 09:43 PM
The Path of Least Resistance.

djones520
01-31-2010, 09:44 PM
This kind of goes along with a question I wanted to ask Hamp and Bijou. After GB outlawed slavery, how were blacks treated in your nation? We know that in the US it took about a century to get civil rights on equal footing. Did GB have the same issues, or was the transition more seamless? I don't know as much about British culture as I'm sure you guys know about ours, but from what I've seen the black population of GB just seems to be 100% equal with the white population in all regards. Is that true?


It's my opinion that the primary reason for the culture of entitlement that seems to grip the black population of the US is due to how we've treated them since the end of slavery. Policies made it impossible for them to be on equal footing for so long that they became the primary receivers of welfare and the like. After several generations of being on handouts, it's just grown to be what is expected. Then their all going to vote for the ones who gave them those handouts, because thats just how things are.

The question one should really be asking is, how do we fix the issue?

PoliCon
01-31-2010, 09:46 PM
In a July 1862 letter to Engels, in reference to his socialist political competitor, Ferdinand Lassalle, Marx wrote, "... it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a ******. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also ******-like."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50724

ETA - it's a walter williams article so - WND is not the source even if it is the location where it was found. :p

Rockntractor
01-31-2010, 09:48 PM
The question one should really be asking is, how do we fix the issue?
When you get your car fixed do you expect the mechanic to fix it without doing a diagnostic?

djones520
01-31-2010, 09:52 PM
When you get your car fixed do you expect the mechanic to fix it without doing a diagnostic?

It seems to me the causes are pretty clear cut, as I laid it out. It's not like it's genetic hard wiring that they vote Democrat.

But overturning more then a century of nurturing with hand out policies isn't going to be just like flicking a switch on and off. Thats whats really gonna be difficult to figure out.

Edit: Whats going to be even more difficult is getting a government willing to do it.

Rockntractor
01-31-2010, 10:02 PM
It seems to me the causes are pretty clear cut, as I laid it out. It's not like it's genetic hard wiring that they vote Democrat.

But overturning more then a century of nurturing with hand out policies isn't going to be just like flicking a switch on and off. Thats whats really gonna be difficult to figure out.
Exactly, any race or group of people given the same conditions and circumstance would likely follow the same path, but today if you even try to expose the existence of the problem, you are branded. We have to be able to publicly outline how we got to the problem before we can ever have hope for a cure. The cure lies in undoing the history that led to the problem.

NJCardFan
01-31-2010, 10:46 PM
Granted there are several problems plaguing the black community(crime for starters) but it seems as though this collective thinking is a real issue. And the Democrats literally lead them by the nose and they willingly follow.

Rockntractor
01-31-2010, 10:50 PM
Granted there are several problems plaguing the black community(crime for starters) but it seems as though this collective thinking is a real issue. And the Democrats literally lead them by the nose and they willingly follow.

Before anything can be done we have to break with the socialism that has already crept in to our government and return to the constitution as it is written.

NJCardFan
01-31-2010, 10:52 PM
Before anything can be done we have to break with the socialism that has already crept in to our government and return to the constitution as it is written.

I honestly believe that blacks would revolt. I really do.

stsinner
01-31-2010, 10:56 PM
Granted there are several problems plaguing the black community(crime for starters) but it seems as though this collective thinking is a real issue. And the Democrats literally lead them by the nose and they willingly follow.

Welfare is a helluva drug! I would imagine, seriously, that it must be hard to go through generations of being handed everything for free by your government and deciding that you aren't going to accept free stuff any more and are going to earn your way through this life when your ancestors were used like farm tools. Life isn't always easy, especially at the lower socio-economic rungs of society, so it's likely much easier to just sit home and collect a check, instead of earning a meager living, even though one would also come with a boost to your pride and image in society.

Hell, it's hard for an alcoholic or drug addict to quit, but that doesn't meant that it should be okay to remain in that rut... It's high time they start stepping up and shedding the victim status and get with the program. The first thing that needs to happen is that we do away with affirmative action, which tells blacks that there is no way they could get a job or seat in college on skill and merit alone-that they must be given special points as a minority race in order to get that job or entrance to that school. It's an insult, both to blacks and the whites that are turned away in favor a minority based solely on skin color.

Rockntractor
01-31-2010, 11:06 PM
I honestly believe that blacks would revolt. I really do.

Many people would fuss at first but when the refrigerator got empty they would find work and most people would discover life is much more satisfying and you can have more when you earn it.

PoliCon
02-01-2010, 06:38 AM
Many people would fuss at first but when the refrigerator got empty they would find work and most people would discover life is much more satisfying and you can have more when you earn it.

yup.

linda22003
02-01-2010, 08:37 AM
It's happening in Haiti, now....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/31/AR2010013102725.html?hpid=topnews

The needs are extraordinary, and the common refrain is that the Americans will provide.

"I want the Americans to take over the country. The Haitian government can't do anything for us," said Jean-Louis Geffrard, a laborer who lives under a tarp in the crowded square. "When we tell the government we're hungry, the government says, 'We're hungry, too.' "

Added Canga Matthieu, a medical student whose school was destroyed: "The American government should take care of us."

"They're well organized. The United States is the richest country in the world, and they can help."

Constitutionally Speaking
02-01-2010, 09:50 AM
If the premise is true, it is because they are TAUGHT it by community activists and our educational system.

Gingersnap
02-01-2010, 10:12 AM
I don't think inner city blacks think of themselves as Marxists and they don't conduct their personal lives along communal lines in any way.

I think politicians have exploited some blacks since Emancipation. I say, "some" because many blacks have firmly rejected political baby-sitting for well over a hundred years. These are the people who created vibrant black communities that included business owners, lawyers, doctors, and well educated black teachers.

Sadly, those people and their children have left most majority black communities since the 1970s so a lot of the people who have stayed are the poorly educated who rely on welfare and criminal acts to get by. These people are very open to the suggestion that the rest of the country "owes" them for past crimes and they're used to being managed by activists and politicians.

Blacks who have moved into mainstream American life also feel like inner city blacks need to be managed because of a lack of education and chaotic family lives. They have good intentions but they aren't looking at the unintended consequences.

Rockntractor
02-01-2010, 10:21 AM
90% of blacks voted for a known Marxist. Black liberation theology is Marxist. That doesn't make them all Marxist but it does make them easily manipulated by Marxists.

Gingersnap
02-01-2010, 10:35 AM
90% of blacks voted for a known Marxist. Black liberation theology is Marxist. That doesn't make them all Marxist but it does make them easily manipulated by Marxists.

Dude, even the Russians weren't Marxists - only their Master Class. Marxism is an academic exercise that is always imposed through force or trickery on populations that have little education and no political power. Smart, powerful people would never voluntarily accept such a thing unless it gave them even more personal power over others. ;)

Rebel Yell
02-01-2010, 11:18 AM
Many people would fuss at first but when the refrigerator got empty they would find work and most people would discover life is much more satisfying and you can have more when you earn it.

Apparently, there aren't many blacks in Oklahoma.;)

Rockntractor
02-01-2010, 11:23 AM
Apparently, there aren't many blacks in Oklahoma.;)
We only have two major cities OKC and Tulsa with a couple of midsize cities. Most of the rural black people are hard workers at least around my area. I live in a black area, their used to be the "colored" school on my property.

Rockntractor
02-01-2010, 11:26 AM
If a man gets hungry and there are no other alternatives, the path of least resistance is to work!

Rebel Yell
02-01-2010, 11:29 AM
If a man gets hungry and there are no other alternatives, the path of least resistance is to work!

And it's easier just to take, than work for it.

Rockntractor
02-01-2010, 11:53 AM
And it's easier just to take, than work for it.

The path of least resistance needs to be recreated. Stop government hand outs, strictly enforce laws against theft and an armed citizenry. Like I said earlier , return to the constitution.

linda22003
02-01-2010, 11:59 AM
their used to be the "colored" school on my property.

Apparently the ghosts of bad education still linger there.

Rockntractor
02-01-2010, 12:13 PM
Apparently the ghosts of bad education still linger there.

:(

linda22003
02-01-2010, 12:33 PM
There
Their
They're

When did we lose the ability to tell these apart? :( indeed!

Rockntractor
02-01-2010, 12:42 PM
End of discussion, spelling error.

Rebel Yell
02-01-2010, 12:46 PM
The path of least resistance needs to be recreated. Stop government hand outs, strictly enforce laws against theft and an armed citizenry. Like I said earlier , return to the constitution.

I agree, but it all comes down to them getting off their (happy, Linda?) lazy asses and working for a living. They need to up their goals as far as a standard of living. If you're content to live in the fucking ghetto, if it means not having to work or take any responsibilty, that's as good as it gets.

Gingersnap
02-01-2010, 01:22 PM
I agree, but it all comes down to them getting off their (happy, Linda?) lazy asses and working for a living. They need to up their goals as far as a standard of living. If you're content to live in the fucking ghetto, if it means not having to work or take any responsibilty, that's as good as it gets.

At least part of the inner city problem is that there are few respectable role models for the working/tax-paying life. Too many black kids seriously see sports and entertainment as the only non-criminal vocations worth pursuing. By the time they realize that only a few thousand people out of 300 million can find success in those fields, they're stuck with random children, poor work histories, and possible criminal records. All those things make it difficult to start over (not impossible but difficult).

In a lot of ways, the Huxtables were role models for middle class Americans regardless of color. I don't know that role models like that really reach inner city kids or adults. :(

Rebel Yell
02-01-2010, 01:31 PM
At least part of the inner city problem is that there are few respectable role models for the working/tax-paying life. Too many black kids seriously see sports and entertainment as the only non-criminal vocations worth pursuing. By the time they realize that only a few thousand people out of 300 million can find success in those fields, they're stuck with random children, poor work histories, and possible criminal records. All those things make it difficult to start over (not impossible but difficult).

In a lot of ways, the Huxtables were role models for middle class Americans regardless of color. I don't know that role models like that really reach inner city kids or adults. :(

That may be part of the problem, but the major factor is just pure laziness. How much prodding do they need to figure out Work = Money - Prison?

stsinner
02-01-2010, 05:16 PM
"I want the Americans to take over the country. The Haitian government can't do anything for us," said Jean-Louis Geffrard,

This situation sucks, because there is absolutely no value to the country of Haiti beyond the human life value.. It's like a leech that has always just sucked the blood of the collective developed countries, and now that leech is sick and we feel like we need to nurse back to healthy leech status, but that will be very expensive.. Haiti will never be of any value or be a profitable venture, so for the US to take it on would be a big mistake.. I say we send them aid, as long as they don't come back with a complaint as to the amount and tell them that's all we've got and good luck! Why don't we buy the slums from the move Slumdog Millioniaire.. We'd get about as much return on our investment, and this is race irrespective.. It's just a worthless place in terms of their domestic monetary worth, and it seems that it will always be.. These charity cases need to begin to be someone else's problems.. People want to begin to hate us more and more around the world, well, they can take the reins and lead the humanitarian efforts..

AlmostThere
02-01-2010, 08:59 PM
Aren't most of the African political systems Marxist in nature? I'd be willing to bet that the blacks in America with Marxist leanings probably also advocate black separatism. The yearning for that reconciliation with the Motherland. God's speed.

stsinner
02-01-2010, 09:05 PM
Aren't most of the African political systems Marxist in nature? I'd be willing to bet that the blacks in America with Marxist leanings probably also advocate black separatism. The yearning for that reconciliation with the Motherland. God's speed.

Funny you should mention that, because although it's pretty true, if you mention not wanting to live among the more, um... diverse communities, you are a racist!!! It can't be that you don't want the high insurance rates or low property values that come with living in a, um... diverse community... LOL... The system is broken!!

AmPat
02-01-2010, 10:38 PM
There
Their
They're

When did we lose the ability to tell these apart? :( indeed!

Them
Them uns
Those uns.
So theyr'e.:D

NJCardFan
02-01-2010, 11:59 PM
The sad thing is that when blacks stray from the collective, they are torn down. Called house negros, house slaves, Uncle Toms, or whatever. If you're black and choose to get an education, you're not held up in high regard in the black community. Chris Rock put it best when he said that blacks are accepted more if they got out of jail rather than graduate from college. In fact, he says it all here(NSFW):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6-Wc0PDc4

PoliCon
02-02-2010, 12:26 AM
That may be part of the problem, but the major factor is just pure laziness. How much prodding do they need to figure out Work = Money - Prison?

They don't understand the concepts of delayed gratification. We've raised two consecutive generations that equate an adrenaline rush with happiness and demand instant gratification. Work gets you neither except in rare instances.

AlmostThere
02-02-2010, 01:45 AM
That may be part of the problem, but the major factor is just pure laziness. How much prodding do they need to figure out Work = Money - Prison?

Do you really think that the threat of prison or actual incarceration places any part in the equation? It's just a guess but I think a lot of people view prison as nothing more than a potential cost of doing business. A lot of people put virtually no value on their lives or other people's. If a man has no real fear of dying why should we expect he'd be worried about going to prison? Hell, that's 3 hots and a cot and some street cred.

Rebel Yell
02-02-2010, 09:20 AM
Do you really think that the threat of prison or actual incarceration places any part in the equation? It's just a guess but I think a lot of people view prison as nothing more than a potential cost of doing business. A lot of people put virtually no value on their lives or other people's. If a man has no real fear of dying why should we expect he'd be worried about going to prison? Hell, that's 3 hots and a cot and some street cred.

Then let 'em fuckin' rot for all I care. I don't think we should hold their hand and walk them to the right conclusions. Let them stay in the ghettos and kill each other.

AlmostThere
02-02-2010, 04:53 PM
Then let 'em fuckin' rot for all I care. I don't think we should hold their hand and walk them to the right conclusions. Let them stay in the ghettos and kill each other.

Don't get me wrong. I see these gangsters robbing and killing and all the crap they do to get busted and then they just act like it's no big deal when they go to prison for it. And the fact they don't give a damn really pisses me off. While they're getting their 3 hots and a cot, we're paying about $35,000 a year per man to keep them there. It's just a revolving door we are paying billions of dollars for. Either we get draconian to put some fear into people or lets just admit we're back in the wild west and it's everyman for himself.

NJCardFan
02-06-2010, 11:57 PM
Don't get me wrong. I see these gangsters robbing and killing and all the crap they do to get busted and then they just act like it's no big deal when they go to prison for it. And the fact they don't give a damn really pisses me off. While they're getting their 3 hots and a cot, we're paying about $35,000 a year per man to keep them there. It's just a revolving door we are paying billions of dollars for. Either we get draconian to put some fear into people or lets just admit we're back in the wild west and it's everyman for himself.
Therein lies the rub. Prison is no longer punishment. It's nothing more than a vacation and a place where they can still conduct business. You can thank the bleeding heart liberals for this. Once upon a time prisons were called penitentiaries. Now they're called correctional facilities. They get social workers, psyches, anger management classes(cage your rage is my personal favorite), some are deemed 'special needs', the list goes on. Not to mention the free cable or satellite TV. And the ability to purchase a flat screen TV. I'm not making that up.