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LibraryLady
08-01-2008, 07:17 PM
Obama shifts, says he may back offshore drilling (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_el_pr/obama)

By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer 8 minutes ago

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Friday he would be willing to support limited additional offshore oil drilling if that's what it takes to enact a comprehensive policy to foster fuel-efficient autos and develop alternate energy sources.

Shifting from his previous opposition to expanded offshore drilling, the Illinois senator told a Florida newspaper he could get behind a compromise with Republicans and oil companies to prevent gridlock over energy.

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NonConformist
08-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Another flip, or a flop, depending how you look at it...

lacarnut
08-01-2008, 07:32 PM
The wackoo env. must be having a diarrhea attack with that statement. I think Nader and the greenies just gained a few hundred thousand votes.

This lying POS will say or do anything to get elected. Bush needs to call these Congress critters back into session.

LibraryLady
08-01-2008, 07:35 PM
DU is spinning trying to excuse this one.

Space Gravy
08-01-2008, 08:34 PM
Defintely a mealy mouthed on the fence statement if I've ever heard one.

LibraryLady
08-01-2008, 08:36 PM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/Obama/Obama_Dizzy.jpg

LibraryLady
08-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Hey Pelosi, how does the bus look from underneath?

SaintLouieWoman
08-01-2008, 09:15 PM
Hey Pelosi, how does the bus look from underneath?

He's throwing Reid under, too. There are LOTS of people under that bus. :D

Goldwater
08-01-2008, 09:18 PM
He's throwing Reid under, too. There are LOTS of people under that bus. :D

I drive the bus. :cool:

AmPat
08-02-2008, 01:50 AM
Apparently, if you don't like Obama rhetoric, wait a few days, it'll change.

CLibertarian
08-02-2008, 03:15 AM
Apparently, if you don't like Obama rhetoric, wait a few days, it'll change.

We've seen his "change" in action. I wonder what "hope" will look like.:D

Teetop
08-02-2008, 10:26 AM
Apparently, if you don't like Obama rhetoric, wait a few days, it'll change.

Change you can believe in.

:rolleyes:

AmPat
08-02-2008, 09:45 PM
Change you can believe in.

:rolleyes:

Actually, this particular change IS something I believe in. If the lunatic left will stop looking at everything through the hazy fog of liberalism and put on the clear view of conservative, common sense lenses, they wouldn't knee jerk so quickly to counter-conservative ideas.

jinxmchue
08-02-2008, 11:47 PM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/Obama/Obama_Dizzy.jpg

Nice. All that needs is a jester's hat(s) on his head(s).

Lanie
08-03-2008, 01:55 PM
Nice. All that needs is a jester's hat(s) on his head(s).

I could actually seeing that encouraging supporters. :D

OwlMBA
08-03-2008, 05:26 PM
You could have just said "Obama shifts".

This guy makes Kerry look like Winston Churchill. He is just trying to appeal to EVERYONE. Yet his loyal Cult of braindead followers would walk lockstep with this freak right over a cliff.

Eyelids
08-04-2008, 02:27 AM
He is just trying to appeal to EVERYONE.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is called campaigning for president.

LibraryLady
08-04-2008, 03:18 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, this is called campaigning for president.

So which time is he lying?

Le Geisha
08-04-2008, 03:18 AM
Another flip, or a flop, depending how you look at it...


Isn't that a good thing, though? Our president should modify his/her opinions to support America's needs. He may not necessarily be trying to win electoral favor as much as trying to adapt to new issues.

Eyelids
08-04-2008, 03:21 AM
So which time is he lying?

He's a politician so my guess is 100% of the time. Same goes for McCain.

LibraryLady
08-04-2008, 03:30 AM
You are pitifully naive. It's a shame that someone as ignorant as you is allowed to vote.

Keep thinking that way; you're in for a lifetime of being disappointed by Democrats. They are all talk and no follow through. Zer-0 is the King.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/Obama/pinochi-Obama.jpg

OwlMBA
08-04-2008, 03:39 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, this is called campaigning for president.

He is doing a great job. Heck, he was trying to appeal to everyone even before he was born! He got his black dad and white mom together so he could REALLY appeal to everyone!

AmPat
08-04-2008, 04:28 AM
He's a politician so my guess is 100% of the time. Same goes for McCain.

You are particially right. The biggest difference is that OBL, Oops, I mean't BHO's slogan is "Change We Can Believe In." When he shifts his beliefs in an ill disguised attempt at pandering to the latest audience, it becomes imposible to know what he believes.

Eyelids
08-04-2008, 01:26 PM
The biggest difference is that OBL, Oops, I mean't BHO's.

With tactics like these politics in this country is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

ralph wiggum
08-04-2008, 01:30 PM
With tactics like these politics in this country is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

So all the nicknames and acronyms that the left uses to denigrate President Bush and Senator McCain are above board? :rolleyes:

Eyelids
08-04-2008, 01:33 PM
So all the nicknames and acronyms that the left uses to denigrate President Bush and Senator McCain are above board? :rolleyes:

When did I say that?

ralph wiggum
08-04-2008, 01:46 PM
When did I say that?

I never said you did, but if you check out any number of websites & blogs, the left has some extremely derogatory nicknames & acronyms for both Bush & McCain. Along with Condi Rice, and pretty much everyone in the Bush administration.

AmPat
08-04-2008, 05:42 PM
With tactics like these politics in this country is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

It wasn't a "tactic," I actually typed OBL and decided I would leave it that way. Sort of like when one is speaking and the very same thing happens. The politics in this country will never be different and it did not originate with the Republicans. Look in the Liberal Dictionary for "childish liberal tactics" for the origins of the hateful rhetoric.:cool:

Elspeth
08-04-2008, 06:14 PM
BHO's slogan is "Change We Can Believe In."

And to get you to believe, he changes as much as he possibly can. :D

Elspeth
08-04-2008, 10:11 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm239/spectral_music/419D1A48-18AA-4069-8819-B6F8A6F2886.gif

Eyelids
08-04-2008, 10:32 PM
The politics in this country will never be different and it did not originate with the Republicans.
Its everyone's fault, but I'm afraid if I started to explain it'd go over your head (and we all know how people here react to thing they dont understand).

asdf2231
08-04-2008, 11:15 PM
Its everyone's fault, but I'm afraid if I started to explain it'd go over your head (and we all know how people here react to thing they dont understand).

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/asdf2231/smileys%20and%20fun/Gay-FagHat.jpg

jinxmchue
08-04-2008, 11:27 PM
I just read somewhere that the drilling B. Hussein was referring to is the already discovered oil reserves, not new areas.

AmPat
08-05-2008, 01:37 AM
Its everyone's fault, but I'm afraid if I started to explain it'd go over your head (and we all know how people here react to thing they dont understand).

Nice try child, I would spank your bottom pink for your impertinence but you are safely tucked away and hiding behind your big internet muscle. Take a break little boy, adults are conversing here.:cool:

Eyelids
08-05-2008, 03:22 AM
Nice try child, I would spank your bottom pink for your impertinence but you are safely tucked away and hiding behind your big internet muscle. Take a break little boy, adults are conversing here.:cool:

Grrr I am AmPat... feel my wrath. Ever heard of gerrymandering? Well its pretty much the cause of our hugely polarized party boundries, and both Republicans and Democrats do it.

Molon Labe
08-05-2008, 06:57 AM
He's a politician so my guess is 100% of the time. Same goes for McCain.

So why would you support either. We already know your choice. Which lie makes Obama the better candidate?

PB2012
08-05-2008, 10:03 AM
He's a politician so my guess is 100% of the time. Same goes for McCain.

How can you be so naive?

Zathras
08-05-2008, 12:04 PM
How can you be so naive?

That's what happens when you're nothing but a wet behind the ears punk with no experience in the real world.

PB2012
08-05-2008, 01:20 PM
Its scary to me as a young voter that there are more of him out there.

JB
08-05-2008, 01:40 PM
Obama has proposed a $1,000-per family energy rebate to be paid for by a tax on excessive energy-company profits.If that doesn't scare the shit out of you...check your pulse.

LogansPapa
08-05-2008, 01:53 PM
Just for a bit of balance.......


In 2007, McCain missed all 11 energy-related Senate votes considered key by the League of Conservation Voters, including votes related to automobile fuel economy, offshore Virginia drilling, refinery construction, renewable electricity mandates, energy efficiency, liquefied coal and support for biofuels. The absences prompted the League to give McCain a "zero" rating for the year.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD92C81700

;)

LibraryLady
08-05-2008, 02:07 PM
Another Flip-Flop

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/Obama/08-05-08gusherobamappps.jpg

jinxmchue
08-05-2008, 02:33 PM
Another Flip-Flop

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/Obama/08-05-08gusherobamappps.jpg

HA! Good one. You have to look at it a little bit before it dawns on you.

jinxmchue
08-05-2008, 02:35 PM
If that doesn't scare the shit out of you...check your pulse.

Nah. Liber... er... I mean, people need to check their brain waves.

Eyelids
08-05-2008, 03:09 PM
So why would you support either. We already know your choice. Which lie makes Obama the better candidate?

Because Obama has a much better image globally (something we need to repair) and would make a much better leader. Thats all a president really should do, keep the neighbors happy and make sure the country doesn't get too fractured.

Goldwater
08-05-2008, 03:36 PM
Because Obama has a much better image globally (something we need to repair) and would make a much better leader. Thats all a president really should do, keep the neighbors happy and make sure the country doesn't get too fractured.

Thats not what he wants to do though, or at least you didn't even describe 10% of what either wants to do as president.

Eyelids
08-05-2008, 03:41 PM
Thats not what he wants to do though, or at least you didn't even describe 10% of what either wants to do as president.

No, because people are stupid and always gripe "STICK TO THE ISSUES!" A president should be more concerned with how he handles problems that come up during his his term, not the ones he has inherited. Congress moves policy anyways, and when the President starts getting antsy with his CINC shenanigans we all know what happens.

lacarnut
08-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Just for a bit of balance.......


In 2007, McCain missed all 11 energy-related Senate votes considered key by the League of Conservation Voters, including votes related to automobile fuel economy, offshore Virginia drilling, refinery construction, renewable electricity mandates, energy efficiency, liquefied coal and support for biofuels. The absences prompted the League to give McCain a "zero" rating for the year.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD92C81700

;)

The League of Conservation Voters is a liberal Env. wackos organization. Their dirty dozen list has 11 Repub and 1 Democ. Guess who they are supporting for Prez.

ralph wiggum
08-05-2008, 03:54 PM
Because Obama has a much better image globally (something we need to repair) and would make a much better leader. Thats all a president really should do, keep the neighbors happy and make sure the country doesn't get too fractured.

Who gives a flying fuck what the rest of the world thinks about our country? All that matters is that we do the right thing.

PB2012
08-05-2008, 03:56 PM
A preseident first and foremost needs to worry about what to do to make us happy not our neighbors happy.
He is the United States President not the United States Neighbors President.

ralph wiggum
08-05-2008, 03:59 PM
A preseident first and foremost needs to worry about what to do to make us happy not our neighbors happy.
He is the United States President not the United States Neighbors President.

Good point, the president isn't supposed to be Mr. Rogers.

LogansPapa
08-05-2008, 04:20 PM
Guess who they are supporting for Prez.

Ah, I see - so McCain didnít miss the 11 votes then? :confused:

Zafod
08-05-2008, 04:25 PM
No, because people are stupid and always gripe "STICK TO THE ISSUES!" A president should be more concerned with how he handles problems that come up during his his term, not the ones he has inherited. Congress moves policy anyways, and when the President starts getting antsy with his CINC shenanigans we all know what happens.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2475/clipboard01qz7.jpg

lacarnut
08-05-2008, 04:36 PM
Ah, I see - so McCain didnít miss the 11 votes then? :confused:

Show them to me; are they amendments or final Senate bills? I don't believe everything I read especially when it comes from a bunch of kooky environmentalist. If you do, then have a sucker.

LibraryLady
08-05-2008, 04:51 PM
Show them to me; are they amendments or final Senate bills? I don't believe everything I read especially when it comes from a bunch of kooky environmentalist. If you do, then have a sucker.


The LOCV site is really lousy but so far Zer-0 missed voting on the same bills!!

Zer-0 only gets a 67% from them.

Eyelids
08-05-2008, 04:53 PM
Who gives a flying fuck what the rest of the world thinks about our country? All that matters is that we do the right thing.

... are you kidding me? Do you think America can just piss off the rest of the world and get away with it? Do you fucking remember 9/11?

LogansPapa
08-05-2008, 05:03 PM
If you do, then have a sucker.

Here you go, Bosco. ;)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=300071

LibraryLady
08-05-2008, 05:15 PM
Statistic: John McCain missed 719 of 4085 votes (18%) since Feb 4, 1993 (Exceedingly Poor relative to peers).Below are John McCain's most recent votes.
Date Vote Vote Description
Jul 31, 2008 9:15 PM Absent
H.Con.Res. 398: Providing for an adjournment or recess of the two Houses. (On the Concurrent Resolution)
Concurrent Resolution Rejected 48-40, 12 not voting
Jul 31, 2008 8:54 PM Absent
On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S. 3001 )
Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Rejected 51-39, 10 not voting (3/5 required)
Jul 31, 2008 8:26 PM Absent
H.R. 4137: College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008 (On the Conference Report)
Conference Report Agreed to 83-8, 9 not voting
Jul 31, 2008 8:01 PM Absent
H.R. 4040: CPSC Reform Act (On the Conference Report)
Conference Report Agreed to 89-3, 8 not voting
Jul 30, 2008 11:50 AM Absent
Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S.3335
Cloture Motion Rejected 51-43, 6 not voting (3/5 required)

Statistic: Barack Obama missed 287 of 1268 votes (23%) since Jan 6, 2005 (Exceedingly Poor relative to peers).


Below are Barack Obama's most recent votes.
Date Vote Vote Description
Jul 31, 2008 9:15 PM Absent
H.Con.Res. 398: Providing for an adjournment or recess of the two Houses. (On the Concurrent Resolution)
Concurrent Resolution Rejected 48-40, 12 not voting
Jul 31, 2008 8:54 PM Absent
On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S. 3001 )
Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Rejected 51-39, 10 not voting (3/5 required)
Jul 31, 2008 8:26 PM Absent
H.R. 4137: College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008 (On the Conference Report)
Conference Report Agreed to 83-8, 9 not voting
Jul 31, 2008 8:01 PM Absent
H.R. 4040: CPSC Reform Act (On the Conference Report)
Conference Report Agreed to 89-3, 8 not voting
Jul 30, 2008 11:50 AM Absent
Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S.3335
Cloture Motion Rejected 51-43, 6 not voting (3/5 required)

Gee what a coincidence!

lacarnut
08-05-2008, 05:23 PM
Statistic: Barack Obama missed 287 of 1268 votes (23%) since Jan 6, 2005 (Exceedingly Poor relative to peers).



Gee what a coincidence!

Don't hit LoganPapa with facts. He is too stupid to realize that McCain has been running for Prez. the last 2 years and his Greene site is loaded with Env. kooks. Being from CA affects him that way. He probably thinks Arnuld is grrrrrreeeeeeeeaaaaaaattttttttttttt.

LibraryLady
08-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Don't hit LoganPapa with facts. He is too stupid to realize that McCain has been running for Prez. the last 2 years and his Greene site is loaded with Env. kooks. Being from CA affects him that way. He probably thinks Arnuld is grrrrrreeeeeeeeaaaaaaattttttttttttt.


I even used his source!!;)

asdf2231
08-05-2008, 11:04 PM
are you kidding me? Do you think America can just piss off the rest of the world and get away with it? Do you fucking remember 9/11?

You miserable piss bag.

You bring new meaning to the term "Retard".

Zathras
08-05-2008, 11:40 PM
You miserable piss bag.

You bring new meaning to the term "Retard".

Can someone please explain to me why Eyelids was not flushed permenantly after his second banning? It's evident to me that his "time outs" haven't done any good.

AmPat
08-06-2008, 09:26 AM
... are you kidding me? Do you think America can just piss off the rest of the world and get away with it? Do you fucking remember 9/11?

Apparently the whole world remembers 9/11. Al Kook-I-DUH and the Talibums remember. The point is we are voting for the next President of the United States. We are not voting for the next U.N. Sec Gen so USA voters should be voting for the man who puts the United State's interests ahead of the world's interests. If you don't believe that, please don't vote.

The last time I looked, our constitution does not address our country's reputation. Put the USA first or please don't vote.

Zafod
08-06-2008, 10:51 AM
Apparently the whole world remembers 9/11. Al Kook-I-DUH and the Talibums remember. The point is we are voting for the next President of the United States. We are not voting for the next U.N. Sec Gen so USA voters should be voting for the man who puts the United State's interests ahead of the world's interests. If you don't believe that, please don't vote.

The last time I looked, our constitution does not address our country's reputation. Put the USA first or please don't vote.

amen brother.