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fettpett
03-12-2010, 10:22 PM
Texas ed board vote reflects far-right influences

By APRIL CASTRO – 3 hours ago

AUSTIN, Texas — A far-right faction of the Texas State Board of Education succeeded Friday in injecting conservative ideals into social studies, history and economics lessons that will be taught to millions of students for the next decade.

Teachers in Texas will be required to cover the Judeo-Christian influences of the nation's Founding Fathers, but not highlight the philosophical rationale for the separation of church and state. Curriculum standards also will describe the U.S. government as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic," and students will be required to study the decline in value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard.

"We have been about conservatism versus liberalism," said Democrat Mavis Knight of Dallas, explaining her vote against the standards. "We have manipulated strands to insert what we want it to be in the document, regardless as to whether or not it's appropriate."



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Finally, kids will get SOME kind of real education if this passes, dumbass democrats though

Swampfox
03-12-2010, 10:30 PM
Oh my God! The horror of children learning about our founding fathers and that finding out that we're a Constitutional Republic! /sarcasm

PoliCon
03-12-2010, 10:31 PM
The republicans are labeled as far-right and ultraconservative leaving the democrats by default to be the rational ones - at least that is the intent of the author. :rolleyes: Yet another fine example of media bias.

NJCardFan
03-12-2010, 11:36 PM
Oh my God! The horror of children learning about our founding fathers and that finding out that we're a Constitutional Republic! /sarcasm

I was thinking the same thing. God forbid a little conservative thinking eeks it's way into the classroom. :rolleyes:

Swampfox
03-13-2010, 01:07 AM
What really frightens me is this:


Curriculum standards also will describe the U.S. government as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic,"

Do these people really think it's "far right wing" to acknowledge that our constitutional republic is in fact a constitutional republic? I mean, I know progressives hate the Constitution, but they can't be so delusional that they believe the Constitution doesn't even exist, can they?

djones520
03-13-2010, 04:07 AM
What are the thoughts on the issues with Jefferson? He was one of the most important founding fathers, but is seems their going to push him into the back seat because of his non-governmental papers. That seem right to you folks?

Constitutionally Speaking
03-13-2010, 05:34 AM
I was thinking the same thing. God forbid a little conservative thinking eeks it's way into the classroom. :rolleyes:


Hell, it's not that it is conservative - IT'S THE TRUTH!!!!

It is our HISTORY. It is WHAT HAPPENED!

I keep telling folks, our children are PURPOSELY being mis-educated with the intent to dumb them down so much that we elect ourselves into tyranny by the socialists.

Look at the results we got the last election. Look at how so many people actually believe there is a separation of Church and State.

Look at how many deny the nature and origin of our rights. They have been "educated" to believe that.

Look at how guns are portrayed.

Look at the ACLU and its origins and stated intent at its founding

Look at the the connections the marxists had in our education system, our news and entertainment media.

NJCardFan
03-13-2010, 11:50 AM
Hell, it's not that it is conservative - IT'S THE TRUTH!!!!

It is our HISTORY. It is WHAT HAPPENED!

I keep telling folks, our children are PURPOSELY being mis-educated with the intent to dumb them down so much that we elect ourselves into tyranny by the socialists.

Look at the results we got the last election. Look at how so many people actually believe there is a separation of Church and State.

Look at how many deny the nature and origin of our rights. They have been "educated" to believe that.

Look at how guns are portrayed.

Look at the ACLU and its origins and stated intent at its founding

Look at the the connections the marxists had in our education system, our news and entertainment media.

So true. However, my comments about conservatism is because these views are looked at as right wing propaganda by the left. But you're correct in saying that it's the truth. We are a Constitutional Republic. There is no separation of church and state in the practical sense(hell, the author admits that it's only a philosophy). And the decline of the dollar can be traced to our removal from the gold standard. The fact that these people have issues with this is astounding. I mean, the author shows their idiocy by calling the conservatives on the BOE a "faction". Faction? Are you frigging serious? These people have turned hypocrisy into an art form. They're the ones who keep harping about having an open mind and such but they are the most closed minded people on 2 feet. It's their worldview or no worldview. While conservatives, even though we don't believe in their worldview, don't see a problem with looking at things from both sides.

fettpett
03-13-2010, 01:38 PM
So true. However, my comments about conservatism is because these views are looked at as right wing propaganda by the left. But you're correct in saying that it's the truth. We are a Constitutional Republic. There is no separation of church and state in the practical sense(hell, the author admits that it's only a philosophy). And the decline of the dollar can be traced to our removal from the gold standard. The fact that these people have issues with this is astounding. I mean, the author shows their idiocy by calling the conservatives on the BOE a "faction". Faction? Are you frigging serious? These people have turned hypocrisy into an art form. They're the ones who keep harping about having an open mind and such but they are the most closed minded people on 2 feet. It's their worldview or no worldview. While conservatives, even though we don't believe in their worldview, don't see a problem with looking at things from both sides.

QFT


it is hard to find Liberal that are open minded as they claim, but there are there. but most Conservatives WILL listen to both sides before making a decision.

I love how there are even those on the Right that think there is a separation of Church and State, if that was the case, there wouldn't be prayer before each session of Congress, Supreme Court, etc. what there is, is the Constitution bars an OFFICIAL Religion of the State. nothing bars the two from working together.

Swampfox
03-13-2010, 02:27 PM
The extremes of both parties are close-minded. However, teaching children the truth about our history is NOT extreme. Distorting, twisting or outright changing history to fit ones own worldview is extreme. That's the bottom line.

hazlnut
03-13-2010, 05:05 PM
I was thinking the same thing. God forbid a little conservative thinking eeks it's way into the classroom. :rolleyes:


“I reject the notion by the left of a constitutional separation of church and state,” said David Bradley, a conservative from Beaumont who works in real estate. “I have $1,000 for the charity of your choice if you can find it in the Constitution.”

I'm not sure what kind of thinking this is, but is sure as hell ain't mainstream conservative.


Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”)

LINK (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?hpw)


Yes, the less they know about Jefferson, the better...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It seems like they're tossing aside any ideas that contradict their world view. I wonder of Glen Beck will do a show in which he follows this type of thinking to it's logical and tragic conclusion...

fettpett
03-13-2010, 06:17 PM
Personally think they should have included him as well as the others. some people regardless of ideology are morons